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    Post by Guest Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:33 pm

    Naravno da ovo nema veze sa zvaničnim podacima, pravili su neke ekstrapolacije koje se uklapaju u fašističku sliku Evrope koju ugrožavaju varvarske horde.

    https://gefira.org/en/2018/07/27/sweden-will-remain-sweden-but-in-name/
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    Post by disident Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:35 pm

    Creepy Uncle wrote:Naravno da ovo nema veze sa zvaničnim podacima, pravili su neke ekstrapolacije koje se uklapaju u fašističku sliku Evrope koju ugrožavaju varvarske horde.

    https://gefira.org/en/2018/07/27/sweden-will-remain-sweden-but-in-name/
    Sta je ovo, svecka geopolitika?


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    Post by Zuper Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:38 pm

    Tacno je to za njih ali mene to ne zanima. Vec govorim o konkretnom podatku jer smo o tome raspravljali, mogucnost da imigracija podize natalitet.
    Da li on nje tacan a ne projekcije za buducnost kretanja populacije etnickih Svedjana? Podatak je iz sadasnjosti.
    Oni se pozivaju na svedsku statistiku po tom pitanju.
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    Post by Ointagru Unartan Sat Jul 28, 2018 8:06 pm

    Oni se pozivaju, a u komentarima pise da lupaju i da svedska statistika tvrdi nesto drugo. Kome verovati?

    Nisam uopste siguran da Svedjani imaju mogucnost da ukrstanjem baza podataka izracunaju, recimo, natalitet svojih drzavljana ciji su roditelji imigranti iz vanevropskih zemalja.

    A za ovo:

    "the number of children with an Islamic name is growing at a fast pace. Since 2010 it has increased by more than 30%, so that now around 8 to 10% of the newborns in Sweden have an Islamic name"

    sam 99% siguran da je lazno pripisano svedskoj statistici.

    Mozemo da raspravljamo o tome da li imigracija podize natalitet, ali ne na osnovu ovoga.


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    Post by Guest Sat Jul 28, 2018 8:08 pm

    @zuper

    Pozivaju se ali ne kroz citat već kroz ekstrapolaciju podataka koji još nisu ni objavljeni i za koje tvrde da su ih dobili putem nezvaničnih kanala. Pogledaj komentare.

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    Post by beatakeshi Sat Jul 28, 2018 8:39 pm

    fertility rate
    Sweden 1,9 
    Albania 1,7
    (World Bank)
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    Post by Erős Pista Sat Jul 28, 2018 8:45 pm

    Svedjani otimaju Vranje!


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    Post by Guest Sat Jul 28, 2018 8:52 pm

    ovajdiće se
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:26 pm

    beatakeshi wrote:fertility rate
    Sweden 1,9 
    Albania 1,7
    (World Bank)

    Žao mi je Albanci, imali smo najbolju nameru, ali sad moramo Kosovo da damo Šveđanima. Förlåt seoba naroda - Page 26 1949538119
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    Post by Ointagru Unartan Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:27 pm

    William Murderface wrote:Svedjani otimaju Vranje!

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    Post by паће Sat Jul 28, 2018 10:15 pm

    disident wrote:
    Creepy Uncle wrote:Naravno da ovo nema veze sa zvaničnim podacima, pravili su neke ekstrapolacije koje se uklapaju u fašističku sliku Evrope koju ugrožavaju varvarske horde.

    https://gefira.org/en/2018/07/27/sweden-will-remain-sweden-but-in-name/
    Sta je ovo, svecka geopolitika?

    Швецка или свецка? Питам за господина.


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    Post by Zuper Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:48 pm

    Agency workers from local and international NGOs as well as UN agencies are among the prime sexual exploiters of refugee children often using the very humanitarian assistance and services intended to benefit refugees as a tool of exploitation. Male national staff were reported to trade humanitarian commodities and services, including medication, oil, bulgur wheat, plastic sheeting, education courses, skills-training, school supplies etc., in exchange for sex with girls under 18. The practice appeared particularly pronounced in locations with significant and established aid programs."
    "There was compelling evidence of a chronic and entrenched pattern of this type of abuse in refugee camps in Guinea and Liberia in particular...The number of allegations documented, however, is a critical indicator of the scale of this problem as altogether 42 agencies and 67 individuals were implicated in this behavior..."
    "Security and military forces including international and regional peacekeepers, national forces and police units are another significant category of exploiters. UN peacekeepers in Sierra Leone are alleged to be extensively involved in the sexual exploitation of children with the assessment team recording allegations against UNAMSIL peacekeepers from nine countries. Details of these allegations, which also require verification, have likewise been submitted to UNHCR."
    "The sex exploiters are men in the community with the money, power and influence: agency workers, peacekeepers, regional and national armed forces, teachers, police, businessmen, diamond miners, refugee leaders and logging company staff."
    "Junior national staff therefore acquire so much power that in the end, they become “the Organisation.” The refugee population fears challenging such a person, or even reporting them, as such an action may threaten their access to the services provided by that organisation. “If the NGO worker runs away, there will be no food for us” (Adolescent Liberia). Adults and children echoed such sentiments throughout the study, “NGO workers have so much power that people treat them as really important people and the community cannot challenge them.” (Refugee leaders Guinea) This power imbalance turns the refugee population from being a social force for the protection of children into a social pressure against the few members of its own community who try and challenge those perceived to be in power."
    "The refugee community realises that one of the ways to access such items is to exchange sex. “In this community no one can access CSB (Soya nutrient), without having sex first. They say “a kilo for sex”.” (Refugee women Guinea) Another adolescent girl in Liberia said, “These NGO workers they are clever they use the ration as bait to get you to have sex with them.” This has created an environment in which parents blame their daughters for failing to bring food or money into the home and in which people desperate for goods are unable to acquire them through the rightful channels. “If you do not have a wife or a sister or a daughter to offer the NGO workers, it is hard to have access to aid” (Returnee male Sierra Leone)."
    "Female staff members confirmed seeing male drivers have sexual relationships with different girls for short periods of time. “They change girls so much and none of them marry the girls and if she becomes pregnant she is abandoned, with no support for herself and the child. Most of us used to just look at them and wonder. Our brothers they have a problem.” (Agency Worker Liberia) Indeed, the assessment team itself witnessed a UN driver leaving a hotel early one morning with two young girls on his arm. The age and refugee status of the girls was undeterminable but the use of vehicles for such purposes does little for the credibility of humanitarian organisations."
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    Post by Летећи Полип Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:02 pm

    http://standard.rs/2018/07/29/migranti-ne-pitaju-za-minimalac/


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    Thread by @leonardocarella: "If you want to understand how inflammatory, dehumanising political rhetoric can break a society apart, look no further than Italy. A silent […]"

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    If you want to understand how inflammatory, dehumanising political rhetoric can break a society apart, look no further than Italy. A silent pogrom is happening right now, and its main instigator has a name and a surname: Matteo Salvini.  (1)
    Vicenza, 26 July. An Italian man shoots a construction worker from the Ivory Coast with an airgun. (2)
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    Vicenza, spara dal terrazzo e ferisce immigrato: denunciato Colpito un operaio di origine capoverdiana che lavorava su un ponteggio. Lo sparatore ai carabinieri: "Volevo prendere un piccione". La dinamica http://www.repubblica.it/cronaca/2018/07/27/news/vicenza_spara_da_un_terrazzo_e_ferisce_un_immigrato_denunciato-202779986/
    Rome, 13 July. An Italian man shoots at a Roma woman and her 1 year-old daughter, hitting the child, again with an airgun. She is in critical condition, and may remain paralysed for life. (3)
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    Giallo a Roma, bimba rom di un anno ferita da un piombino: è grave I familiari hanno raccontato si essersi accorti che la bambina perdeva sangue dalla schiena mentre era in braccio alla madre che camminava lungo via Palmiro http://roma.repubblica.it/cronaca/2018/07/18/news/roma_bimba_rom_di_un_anno_ferita_da_un_piombino-202110729/
    Latina, 11 July. Two Nigerian migrants, 19 and 26, are hit with plastic bullets from a car, which then drives away. (4)
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    Latina, spari ad aria compressa contro i migranti che aspettano l'arrivo del bus: due feriti Tre persone a bordo di un'auto hanno preso di mira un gruppo di sette-otto nigeriani stava aspettando il pullman a Latina Scalo, per tornare nella vicina http://roma.repubblica.it/cronaca/2018/07/12/news/latina_spari_a_salve_contro_i_migranti_che_aspettano_l_arrivo_del_bus-201584961/
    Forlì, 2-5 July. A few days apart, two aggressions: one against a Nigerian woman and one against an Ivorian man, both with an airgun, both resulting in severe injuries. (5)
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    Due africani feriti in pochi giorni: per la consulta degli stranieri è razzismo Africani feriti a colpi di pistole soft air. E' successo due volte in pochi giorni a Forlì, dove i Carabinieri stanno indagando per chiarire la vicenda e capire se dietro possa esserci la stessa mano http://www.forlitoday.it/cronaca/africani-feriti-pistola-soft-air-forli-razzismo-oggi-domenica-8-luglio-2018.html
    Naples, 20 June. A Malian chef is shot from a car by young Italians. They were laughing and shouting "Salvini, Salvini". (6)
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    Sparano allo chef immigrato a Napoli: "Ridevano, credevo di morire” Corso Umberto, ferito all’addome con fucile a pallini: “È razzismo, Salvini fermi la sua propaganda”. Unhcr: "Irresponsabile http://napoli.repubblica.it/cronaca/2018/06/22/news/sparano_allo_chef_immigrato_ridevano_credevo_di_morire_-199705147/
    Caserta, 19 June. Two Malian immigrants shot with an airgun. Again, they report the gunmen to have been shouting "Salvini, Salvini". (7)
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    Caserta, "spari contro due immigrati al grido 'Salvini, Salvini!': un ferito" - Il Fatto Quotidiano Due immigrati provenienti dal Mali, che fanno parte del progetto Sprar del comune di Caserta, hanno denunciato alla polizia di essere stati vittima di un episodio a sfondo razzista: secondo il loro r… https://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2018/06/19/caserta-spari-contro-due-immigrati-al-grido-salvini-salvini-un-ferito/4437627/
    Gioia Tauro, 2 June. A Malian trade unionist, Soumalya Sacko, is killed by a gunman. Another one is severely injured but survives.
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    Omicidio Soumayla, l'uomo fermato nega tutto: "Io agli stranieri davo lavoro" Antonio Pontoriero è stato interrogato e ha smentito la ricostruzione degli inquirenti. Secondo il suo legale avrebbe dichiarato di "non avere http://www.repubblica.it/cronaca/2018/06/08/news/omicidio_soumayla_interrogatorio_pontoriero-198469694/?ref=search
    Florence, 5 March. Idy Diene, a street trader from Senegal, is killed in cold blood with six gun shots by an Italian pensioner. (9)
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    Spara e uccide passante a Firenze. La rabbia dei senegalesi: divelte fioriere, paura in centro Un centinaio di connazionali della vittima, Idy Diene, 54 anni, si è riversato su ponte Vespucci. Poi il corteo. Bloccato il traffico in stazione. http://firenze.repubblica.it/cronaca/2018/03/05/news/firenze_spari_a_ponte_alla_vittoria-190497773/
    Macerata, 2 February. A former Lega election candidate goes on a rampage, shooting 6 migrants from his car. (10)
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    Macerata, spara agli immigrati dall'auto: "6 feriti". Fermato: avvolto nel tricolore, ha fatto il saluto romano. Nel 2017 fu candidato dalla Lega - DIRETTA - Il Fatto Quotidiano   Sono da poco passate le 11, quando il terrore si diffonde nelle strade di Macerata. Un uomo, forse due, si aggirano in un’Alfa Romeo 147 nera e apre il fuoco dal finestrino. Su Facebook il sindaco … https://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2018/02/03/macerata-spara-agli-immigrati-dallauto-6-feriti-fermato-avvolto-nel-tricolore-ha-fatto-il-saluto-romano-nel-2017-fu-candidato-dalla-lega-diretta/4134517/
    Cuneo, 27 April. Gambian immigrant is beaten up by a gang, leaving him in critical conditions. (11)
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    Migrante picchiato a Santo Stefano Belbo, possibile aggressione a sfondo razziale La vittima, richiedente asilo, è ospite di una cooperativa dell’Astigiano http://www.lastampa.it/2017/04/27/edizioni/cuneo/migrante-picchiato-a-santo-stefano-belbo-possibile-aggressione-a-sfondo-razziale-pKECewUCzHOrdXC4FV1cNJ/pagina.html
    Rome, 11 October. A group of Italian teenagers beats up a Bengali and an Egyptian, shouting "dirty ni**er, immigrants out of Italy". (12)
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    'gli immigrati via dall’italia'-a roma 5 ragazzi pestano 2 migranti in centro: fermati dalla polizia Gossip, notizie e cronaca quotidiana http://m.dagospia.com/gli-immigrati-via-dall-italia-a-roma-5-ragazzi-pestano-2-migranti-in-centro-fermati-dalla-polizia-159668
    Treviso, 16 October. Three migrants, one of whom underage, are severely injured after a group of football hooligans take it up on them after a match. (13)
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    Migranti pestati, 8 ultras del Treviso nei guai - Cronaca - Tribuna di Treviso Denunciati alla magistratura. A Portogruaro sit-in antirazzista, sindaco solidale con le vittime http://tribunatreviso.gelocal.it/treviso/cronaca/2017/10/16/news/migranti-pestati-8-ultras-del-treviso-nei-guai-1.15999595
    Turin, 29 October. A Romanian homeless man is beaten up and set on fire. (14)
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    Torino, clochard picchiato e dato alle fiamme: fermato un sospetto L'aggressione ieri sera in un giardino di borgata Aurora: il senzatetto è in rianimazione http://torino.repubblica.it/cronaca/2017/10/29/news/clochard_aggredito_e_bruciato_a_torino-179646965/?ref=RHPPLF-BH-I0-C8-P4-S1.8-T2
    Lodi, 30 September. A charity property that was meant to host migrants is destroyed and set on fire. (15)
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    Lodi, raid di fuoco nella palazzina che dovrà ospitare i migranti Due incendi in una settimana a Guardamiglio. Bruciati i letti e presi a picconate i mobili. La coop: «Non ci faremo intimidire, pochi giorni di... https://milano.corriere.it/notizie/cronaca/17_ottobre_12/lodi-incendiata-palazzina-ospitare-migranti-f7f12d7c-aec0-11e7-b0c4-b8561c2586e6.shtml
    This is a very selective and partial list, but I haven't found anywhere where this is documented more systematically.  (16)
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    Post by Летећи Полип Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:57 pm

    Ko se god zaputi u Italiju, a naročito od Peruđe pa nadole, treba mu dati da odgleda Gomoru. To je Nikšić, samo sa više parmezana. 

    I da. Pomoglo bi kad migranti tamo ne bi pravili sranja. Za početak da ne seku maloletne devojke u komade i ostavljaju po putnim torbama, ili da grupno siluju turistkinje na medenom mesecu. Ali ne, problem je Salvini.


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    Post by Guest Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:10 pm

    Ova jednogodišnja paralizovana beba verovatno neće nikoga moći da seče na komade i siluje, tako da je jedan migrant svakako pacifikovan.
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    Post by Летећи Полип Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:15 pm

    Samo ih vi krijte iza dece.


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    Post by beatakeshi Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:15 pm

    Летећи Полип wrote:Ko se god zaputi u Italiju, a naročito od Peruđe pa nadole, treba mu dati da odgleda Gomoru. To je Nikšić, samo sa više parmezana. 

    I da. Pomoglo bi kad migranti tamo ne bi pravili sranja. Za početak da ne seku maloletne devojke u komade i ostavljaju po putnim torbama, ili da grupno siluju turistkinje na medenom mesecu. Ali ne, problem je Salvini. seoba naroda - Page 26 2952840586 seoba naroda - Page 26 2952840586 seoba naroda - Page 26 2952840586
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    Post by kondo Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:15 pm

    Летећи Полип wrote:
    I da. Pomoglo bi kad migranti tamo ne bi pravili sranja. Za početak da ne seku maloletne devojke u komade i ostavljaju po putnim torbama, ili da grupno siluju turistkinje na medenom mesecu. Ali ne, problem je Salvini.

    Dosta bi pomoglo kada bi zapocetak kriminal nasilje i zlocine individualizovao a ne pripisivao mnozini "migranti" koja "pravi sranja".


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    Post by Guest Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:20 pm

    Летећи Полип wrote:Ko se god zaputi u Italiju, a naročito od Peruđe pa nadole, treba mu dati da odgleda Gomoru. To je Nikšić, samo sa više parmezana. 

    I da. Pomoglo bi kad migranti tamo ne bi pravili sranja. Za početak da ne seku maloletne devojke u komade i ostavljaju po putnim torbama, ili da grupno siluju turistkinje na medenom mesecu. Ali ne, problem je Salvini.


    Prije mjesec dana odgledao na RTS jednu epizodu italijanske krim serije. Deset epizoda o mafiji u deset tamošnjih gradova. Ja odgledao Paruđu, glavni negativci su Jugosloveni, dobro sarađuju sa Nigerijcima.
    Vođa ganga je Mladić (glumi ga Đuro) a jedan od najbitniih u njegovoj ekipi je Tesla.


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    Post by Летећи Полип Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:25 pm

    Kondo wrote:
    Dosta bi pomoglo kada bi zapocetak kriminal nasilje i zlocine individualizovao a ne pripisivao mnozini "migranti" koja "pravi sranja".


    Teza autora je da se trenutno dešava tihi pogrom, odnosno da su svi gornji incidenti bili sistematski organizovani. Pa i to su neki pojedinci, a ne kampanja. Na stranu što autor podlo prećutkuje probleme koji dolaze sa druge strane.


    Ali boli mene kurac. Neće propasti moj globalni projekat u koji sam polagao nade sve ove decenije.


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    Post by Летећи Полип Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:28 pm

    fikret selimbašić wrote:

    Prije mjesec dana odgledao na RTS jednu epizodu italijanske krim serije. Deset epizoda o mafiji u deset tamošnjih gradova. Ja odgledao Paruđu, glavni negativci su Jugosloveni, dobro sarađuju sa Nigerijcima.
    Vođa ganga je Mladić (glumi ga Đuro) a jedan od najbitniih u njegovoj ekipi je Tesla.


    Spoiler:


    Neka su Srbi. Neka ih Italija reši kako ume, i samo da nam ih ne vraća.


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    Post by Guest Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:43 pm

    Sad već trolujem ali...

    Svi ih zovu Jugoslovenima. Dva policijaca trče preko trga u potjeri za bjeguncem i kad ga stignu, ovaj im se vješto opire. Biva stavljen pod kontrolu i uhapšen tek nakon što dođe pojačanje. Policajac u civilu, posmatrač te scene, zaključuje da je to Jugosloven, jer samo oni nose toliki bijes u sebi. To i kaže mlađoj koleginici dok suzdržano, da ne otkriju identitet, posmatraju potjeru i hapšenje.

    Neću više.
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    Post by Xexoxical Endarchy Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:53 pm

    vratija se przun


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    Post by паће Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:37 pm

    Kondo wrote:
    Dosta bi pomoglo kada bi zapocetak kriminal nasilje i zlocine individualizovao a ne pripisivao mnozini "migranti" koja "pravi sranja".

    А, не, ја сам лекцију научио. Колективна одговорност. Санкције целој држави. Бомбардујте их све. Сви су они исти.


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