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seoba naroda
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seoba naroda
Uh, grumpy old man i siloviti mladac(?)... Kombinacija snova.
Odoh malo.
Odoh malo.
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ocu, cim mi navedes gde sam srbovao.No Country for Old Man wrote:Док твоје србовање на форуму са 4000 чланова дабоме има пуног ефекта.
Ајде дувај га, скоте.
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Но проблемо, чак и не морам да потежем тамо:
Jir-Lo wrote:sto budalama? i treba da ih sve poruse.plachkica wrote:
šta misliš koliko treba budalama u Srbiji da krenu da ruše hrvatske radnje? (idea, merkator..)
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da li ti bas sve na sta naidjes bukvalno shvatas? rekoh ja da si neopisivo glup.
mada, ideu treba spaliti stvarno, zajedno sa maxijem/ dehlaizeom. monopolisticka gamad koja drze cene bar jedno 30% vecim nego sto je potrebno, po mojoj slobodnoj proceni.
mada, ideu treba spaliti stvarno, zajedno sa maxijem/ dehlaizeom. monopolisticka gamad koja drze cene bar jedno 30% vecim nego sto je potrebno, po mojoj slobodnoj proceni.
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Делеза, са истим амблемом (енгр. логоом/лоогом/логом?), сам видео и у САДу (где се звао "Прехрамбени лав" или "Храна за лавове" или тако некако), и у Бугарској (не сећам се назива). А и Идеау би требало свести на меру.
А то колико су то хрватске фирме знају ваљда само банкари.
А то колико су то хрватске фирме знају ваљда само банкари.
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Ааааа, да ниси и ти од оних који промене штим чим промене форум? Па си ми овде у ироничном молу, док тамо хорски терцираш особи Дагмар и сличнима на седамдесетак страна, чим се укаже и најмања прилика да се колективно опали по Хрватима, Американцима и осталим вековним непријатељима... Ух.Jir-Lo wrote:da li ti bas sve na sta naidjes bukvalno shvatas? rekoh ja da si neopisivo glup.
У једну руку си у праву: јесам стравично глуп, чим сам теби кренуо да било шта разјашњавам.
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E, aj prekinite ovo PPPreganjaje. Besmisleno je i smara.
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dobro, nemoj vise.No Country for Old Man wrote:Ааааа, да ниси и ти од оних који промене штим чим промене форум? Па си ми овде у ироничном молу, док тамо хорски терцираш особи Дагмар и сличнима на седамдесетак страна, чим се укаже и најмања прилика да се колективно опали по Хрватима, Американцима и осталим вековним непријатељима... Ух.Jir-Lo wrote:da li ti bas sve na sta naidjes bukvalno shvatas? rekoh ja da si neopisivo glup.
У једну руку си у праву: јесам стравично глуп, чим сам теби кренуо да било шта разјашњавам.
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Гледах на Алџазаири- аутобус са избеглицама пролази кроз Мађарску, прате га оклопна возила, и свуда унаоколо униформисани Мађари, Сиријац провирује кроз прозор аутобуса па каже: "У овој земљи као да влада неки војни режим"
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The European Union needs to accept responsibility for the lack of a common asylum policy, which has transformed this year’s growing influx of refugees from a manageable problem into yet another political crisis. Each member state has selfishly focused on its own interests, often acting against the interests of others. This precipitated panic among asylum seekers, the general public, and the authorities responsible for law and order. Asylum seekers have been the main victims.
The EU needs a comprehensive plan to respond to the crisis, one that reasserts effective governance over the flows of asylum-seekers so that they take place in a safe, orderly way, and at a pace that reflects Europe’s capacity to absorb them. To be comprehensive, the plan has to extend beyond the borders of Europe. It is less disruptive and much less expensive to maintain potential asylum-seekers in or close to their present location.
Read more at https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/rebuilding-refugee-asylum-system-by-george-soros-2015-09#dA7fHIqldibGPuOu.99
The EU needs a comprehensive plan to respond to the crisis, one that reasserts effective governance over the flows of asylum-seekers so that they take place in a safe, orderly way, and at a pace that reflects Europe’s capacity to absorb them. To be comprehensive, the plan has to extend beyond the borders of Europe. It is less disruptive and much less expensive to maintain potential asylum-seekers in or close to their present location.
Read more at https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/rebuilding-refugee-asylum-system-by-george-soros-2015-09#dA7fHIqldibGPuOu.99
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Да је из уста неког другог, него баш муфљуз Шорош...
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pa bas zato sto je soros je vazno.
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Ма јесте важно али... да је неко друг(ачиј)и то написао, па да кажеш да се самозвана Европа узима у памет. Овако, стрепња нада.
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9/30/2015
Newcomer in Berlin Don't call me refugee!
Von Ahmad AlDali
Our author fled the war in Syria, now he lives in Berlin. But he does not want to be referred to as "refugee". To him, the term suggests helplessness and neediness. Plus, there is a much better word.
To tell you upfront: I am doing well. I am getting along. This is why it really bothers me when people call me a “refugee”. Yesterday for example. A TV team was making shots for a piece about the “Schlafplatzorga” at Oranienplatz. As the name says, these people organize places to stay. I am helping them. A girl introduced me as “Ahmad, a Syrian refugee”. I didn’t want to just suck up something like this. It sounded as if I was a thing. But I am Ahmad, from Syria. And I am living with my friends. It’s a big difference to give help as a friend or to give help out of sympathy and pity. The term “refugee” is connected with the need for help and weakness. But I don’t want pity. I hate to ask for help, it’s uncomfortable. I prefer to go the hard way – as I did many times since I left Syria two years ago.
Of course, not everyone is in this position. Some people really need support and like to accept help. Others just don’t think about how they are called. But I am a thinker, and that’s why this is so important to me. We all have a personality and a lot of potential! At first I didn’t want to come to Germany or to Europe and become a refugee. As a refugee, you lose the feeling of being a person. You lose yourself. You disappear in an anonymous crowd. People say “refugee” and generalize everything: the mentality, the nationality, the culture. But just look at us Syrians: We all have a personality – and a lot of potential!
For me the term “refugee” also means waiting. A lot of my friends just sit around in their camps and count the moments. They all had a good life before the war came and destroyed everything. Only when they get the residency they can look for a job and really arrive here, start a new life. Only then the word "refugee" will end for them. Turkey was a dead end There are people who think they know everything about me, when they hear I am a refugee. However, I have a past in Syria and hopefully a future in Germany. In Damascus, I was a normal student. I played the bass guitar and made music with a friend. I wrote lyrics and taught myself 3D design on the computer.
Because of the war, almost all of my friends left Syria, and so did I eventually. I had the idea of working and living in Turkey. But the country was so different from what I imagined. I worked in a stitching, more than twelve hours a day, quite a crappy job. Although it paid okay and I was really good at stitching, Turkey was a dead end. I am in Berlin for about four months now. I almost feel at home already, although I still get lost with my bike all the time. My goal is to master 3D design. I want to make video games. I want to shine! Until I get my work permission, it probably will take a while.
However, I would prefer not to be called a refugee anymore. I would like to be called by my name. If it really needs a collective term for the people who are coming here, they should be called newcomers.
I have used the term recently. I told a girl that at Schlafplatzorga that I help the newcomers. That really sounds more appealing than “refugee” does. Why don't you give it a try?
Newcomer in Berlin Don't call me refugee!
Von Ahmad AlDali
Our author fled the war in Syria, now he lives in Berlin. But he does not want to be referred to as "refugee". To him, the term suggests helplessness and neediness. Plus, there is a much better word.
To tell you upfront: I am doing well. I am getting along. This is why it really bothers me when people call me a “refugee”. Yesterday for example. A TV team was making shots for a piece about the “Schlafplatzorga” at Oranienplatz. As the name says, these people organize places to stay. I am helping them. A girl introduced me as “Ahmad, a Syrian refugee”. I didn’t want to just suck up something like this. It sounded as if I was a thing. But I am Ahmad, from Syria. And I am living with my friends. It’s a big difference to give help as a friend or to give help out of sympathy and pity. The term “refugee” is connected with the need for help and weakness. But I don’t want pity. I hate to ask for help, it’s uncomfortable. I prefer to go the hard way – as I did many times since I left Syria two years ago.
Of course, not everyone is in this position. Some people really need support and like to accept help. Others just don’t think about how they are called. But I am a thinker, and that’s why this is so important to me. We all have a personality and a lot of potential! At first I didn’t want to come to Germany or to Europe and become a refugee. As a refugee, you lose the feeling of being a person. You lose yourself. You disappear in an anonymous crowd. People say “refugee” and generalize everything: the mentality, the nationality, the culture. But just look at us Syrians: We all have a personality – and a lot of potential!
For me the term “refugee” also means waiting. A lot of my friends just sit around in their camps and count the moments. They all had a good life before the war came and destroyed everything. Only when they get the residency they can look for a job and really arrive here, start a new life. Only then the word "refugee" will end for them. Turkey was a dead end There are people who think they know everything about me, when they hear I am a refugee. However, I have a past in Syria and hopefully a future in Germany. In Damascus, I was a normal student. I played the bass guitar and made music with a friend. I wrote lyrics and taught myself 3D design on the computer.
Because of the war, almost all of my friends left Syria, and so did I eventually. I had the idea of working and living in Turkey. But the country was so different from what I imagined. I worked in a stitching, more than twelve hours a day, quite a crappy job. Although it paid okay and I was really good at stitching, Turkey was a dead end. I am in Berlin for about four months now. I almost feel at home already, although I still get lost with my bike all the time. My goal is to master 3D design. I want to make video games. I want to shine! Until I get my work permission, it probably will take a while.
However, I would prefer not to be called a refugee anymore. I would like to be called by my name. If it really needs a collective term for the people who are coming here, they should be called newcomers.
I have used the term recently. I told a girl that at Schlafplatzorga that I help the newcomers. That really sounds more appealing than “refugee” does. Why don't you give it a try?
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slazem se da su ga sami odabrali ali isto tako mogu da ga sami i odbace kada pocne da poprima derogatorne dimenzije, kao sto to vec slucaj.
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Bilo bi sebično da o terminu odlučuju oni koji su u Nemačkoj.
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mislim da je to licni izbor. i negde me podseca na nesto sto sam vec video
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Mnogo Ahmad hoće. Ali, to će tek uvideti.
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kako je malo potrebno da se vucicev izbeglicki balon evropske srbije raspadne.... u presevu 6000 and rising ceka na papire, 4 meseca kasnije prvi put kada je sistem trebalo sve da registruje sve odlazi dodjavola. orao pao orao pao...
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How to Justify a Crisis
Leading progressive intellectuals are using their influence to disparage refugees and excuse elites.
by Nick Riemer
Syrian refugees waiting for a train in Vienna last month. Josh Zakary / Flickr
As Europe’s asylum crisis intensified last month, prominent liberal opinion pages — the London Review of Books, Le Monde, Canada’s Globe and Mail — featured contributions from some of today’s leading thinkers. Slavoj Žižek, Jürgen Habermas, and Peter Singer all offered their analysis of what must be done, and by whom, to relieve the refugee emergency.
These interventions are rich in lessons about how the “responsibility of intellectuals,” to use Chomsky’s formulation, is currently being discharged — or not. Indeed, for all the philosophers’ fame, their contributions impress only by the banality of their prescriptions.
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jovic
http://www.h-alter.org/vijesti/azilanti-i-pitanje-karaktera-europske-unije
No, izbjeglička kriza ima i svoju ideološku logiku. Kritike koje premijer Milanović upućuje Srbiji i Mađarskoj, naime, imaju snažnu ideološku osnovu: on kritizira desne vlade u te dvije zemlje, povezujući njihove postupke s desnicom u Hrvatskoj. Meta su Vučić i – naročito – Orban, koji je postao simbol za ideologiju obnovljenog nacionalizma i suverenizma, te je jedan od glavnih protivnika europske ljevice.
Ima li takva ideologizacija izbjegličkog pitanja ikakvog temelja?
http://www.h-alter.org/vijesti/azilanti-i-pitanje-karaktera-europske-unije
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da. kako je zahladnelo i kako se drzava mora angazovati i kako je zavrsen posao sa hrvatskom.
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And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started