seoba naroda

nista od toga, uleteo nacionalni stadion

Djordje Kostic ‏@BGDopisnikAJB 13h13 hours ago
Neverovatno je da nestaje struja u prihvatnom centru u Presevu. Sistem registracije izbeglica ne radi. Ljudi su na kisi sa decom #izbeglice

ostap bender wrote:da. kako je zahladnelo i kako se drzava mora angazovati i kako je zavrsen posao sa hrvatskom.

jedino o cemu moze sada da se pise je potpuna katastrofa svake vrste u presevu. jedino sto bi sad svi mediji morali da se cimaju da menjaju sliku o tome kako smo good guys. sto reko jedan miratovcanin juce, "ej imali smo dvojku pre vucica a sada imamo cetvorku, kako?".

AstroG ‏@Astr0G 8m8 minutes ago
"Kiša napravila haos: U Preševu poplavljeni podrumi i dvorišta kuća"


AstroG ‏@Astr0G 5m5 minutes ago
"Najkritičnije je u naselju Železnička stanica, blizu Prihvatnog centra. Objekat u kojem su smeštene izbeglice nije ugrožen."

William Murderface wrote:

How to Justify a Crisis

Leading progressive intellectuals are using their influence to disparage refugees and excuse elites.

by Nick Riemer

Syrian refugees waiting for a train in Vienna last month. Josh Zakary / Flickr

As Europe’s asylum crisis intensified last month, prominent liberal opinion pages — the London Review of Books, Le Monde, Canada’s Globe and Mail — featured contributions from some of today’s leading thinkers. Slavoj Žižek, Jürgen Habermas, and Peter Singer all offered their analysis of what must be done, and by whom, to relieve the refugee emergency.
These interventions are rich in lessons about how the “responsibility of intellectuals,” to use Chomsky’s formulation, is currently being discharged — or not. Indeed, for all the philosophers’ fame, their contributions impress only by the banality of their prescriptions.

Čekaj, pa koliko se sećam ovde, na forumu nije bilo kritika Žižekovog članka?

Mislim pretpostavljam da si promenio stav kad kačiš ovo đubre od teksta.

e, ovo me sad vec ozbiljno nasmejalo, stiglo u inbox

Subject:   Prime Minister's Office-Answer I-1L/ME/3693/2015 From:   Titkarság (ME) Date:   Mon, October 19, 2015 2:56 pm To:   xxxx Priority:   Normal Options:   View Full Header |  View Printable Version  | Download this as a file

[cid:image001.jpg@01D10A7E.517A9480] Prime Minister's Office Division of Public Relations Mr. xxxxxxx E-mail: xxxxxx Reference Number: I-1L/ME/3693/2015 Dear Mr. xxxxxx We received your letter addressed to Mr. Viktor Orbán, Prime Minister of Hungary in which you asked for help to a Syrian refugee. Let me inform you that the Prime Minister can not interfere in this case, therefore we encourage you to get in touch with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade (Postal address: 1027 Budapest, Bem rakpart 47. E-mail: kozkapcsolat@mfa.gov.hu, Phone: +36-1-458-1000) which has jurisdiction and competency in this matter. Finally, please allow me to wish you all the best on behalf of Mr. Viktor Orbán and also in my own name. Yours sincerely, on behalf of Csilla Kobza, Head of Department Palma Gyimesi Public Relations Referent Prime Minister's Office E-mail: titkarsag@me.gov.hu 1055 Budapest, Kossuth tér 1-3. ________________________________ Ezen üzenet és annak bármely csatolt anyaga bizalmas, jogi védelem alatt áll, a nyilvános közléstől védett. Az üzenetet kizárólag a címzett, illetve az általa meghatalmazottak használhatják fel. Ha Ön nem az üzenet címzettje, úgy kérjük, hogy telefonon, vagy e-mail-ben értesítse erről az üzenet küldőjét és törölje az üzenetet, valamint annak összes csatolt mellékletét a rendszeréből. Ha Ön nem az üzenet címzettje, abban az esetben tilos az üzenetet vagy annak bármely csatolt mellékletét lemásolnia, elmentenie, az üzenet tartalmát bárkivel közölnie vagy azzal visszaélnie. This message and any attachment are confidential and are legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others authorised to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please telephone or email the sender and delete this message and any attachment from your system. Please note that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of or reliance upon the information contained in and transmitted with this e-mail by or to anyone other than the recipient designated above by the sender is unauthorised and strictly prohibited.

Могла би да се направи Орбан-варијанта "писма нигеријанске удовице"? 

moglo bi ali ja sam stvarno pisao na njegov zvanicni mejl, i nisam nimalo bio pristojan!

u medjuvremenu

Janez Jansa je izjavio kako je zatvaranje slovenacke granice "dobar potez" iznudjen hrvatskim ignorisanjem obaveza prema EU. Hrvatska i Grcka krse evropske propise, dok je madjarski pristup ispravan i u skladu sa Sengenom. Sada je jasno da Madjarska zasluzuje sve pohvale, cega je danas svesna i vecina stanovnika EU uprkos zlonamernim kritikama koje joj se upucuju iz vrhova EU.


ako, kad te nismo uhapsili u junu 1991 i obesili za jaja na triglavu (suvar mode off)

Oko, Ćirjaković.
Dođe mi da razbijem televizor.

Šta kenja?

U kampovima im dele pasoše!
Plemenit istok, surov zapad, izbeglice nas vole, ali ne žele ostati ovde.
Nemci su poručili da su izbeglice dobrodošle i sad  moraju da se spreme za posledice lakih reči...
U izbeglički kamp u Nemačkoj novinari ne mogu da uđu..
I tako..
I klimatske izbeglice i ljudi koji beže od bede...
(Tema je aktuelno dešavanje na srpsko-hrvatskoj granici.)

Ja uhvatih ono malo pred kraj, nije rekao ništa strašno, osim tih nemačkih "olakih obećanja". Šta predlaže?

Elem, to je ona tipična Politikina škola, gde imaš autora, uvek zabrinutog,
uvek na strani istine, koji ti u tri pasusa poturi jednu ideologiju, dve istine i tri laži.
Ćirjaković je na dobrom putu da bude nova Smajlović.

William Murderface wrote:Ja uhvatih ono malo pred kraj, nije rekao ništa strašno, osim tih nemačkih "olakih obećanja". Šta predlaže?

da se Evropa uozbilji!

Šalim se, u suštini predlaže da se plati Turskoj (USA i EU) da blokira izbeglice, ili će posledice biti nesagledive. (Ne baš tako otvoreno.)

Ma on je bre to patentirao. Pitomac je Badulj.

plachkica wrote:

William Murderface wrote:Ja uhvatih ono malo pred kraj, nije rekao ništa strašno, osim tih nemačkih "olakih obećanja". Šta predlaže?

da se Evropa uozbilji!

Šalim se, u suštini predlaže da se plati Turskoj (USA i EU) da blokira izbeglice, ili će posledice biti nesagledive. (Ne baš tako otvoreno.)

Uh.

plachkica wrote:Ćirjaković je na dobrom putu da bude nova Smajlović.

popi jednu, izduvaj se

Hvala na savetu, ali neostvariv je. 
Specijalni režim ishrane ne dozvoljava alkohol.
Ostaje vam da trpite moje nerazumevanje ™ Smajlović i pičkobolju za Politiku.

plachkica wrote: pičkobolju

usvajam i širim

Ko se brine o izbeglicama - Vulin u "klinču" s volonterimna

Češki volonteri, koji već nedeljama pomažu izbeglicama kod Berkasova zatražili su od ministra Aleksandra Vulina dodatnu pomoć, ali se taj razgovor pretvorio u verbalni duel.


http://rs.n1info.com/a101716/Video/Ko-se-brine-o-izbeglicama-Vulin-u-klincu-s-volonterimna.html

Пиштало мајстор

ficfiric wrote:

Ko se brine o izbeglicama - Vulin u "klinču" s volonterimna

Češki volonteri, koji već nedeljama pomažu izbeglicama kod Berkasova zatražili su od ministra Aleksandra Vulina dodatnu pomoć, ali se taj razgovor pretvorio u verbalni duel.


http://rs.n1info.com/a101716/Video/Ko-se-brine-o-izbeglicama-Vulin-u-klincu-s-volonterimna.html

Kakvo govno od čoveka. Prvo kaže - država je platila hranu za ove ljude, a kad mu Čeh kaže, ne, mi smo svojim parama platili hranu za izbeglice, Vulin na to odmahuje rukom uz onu svoju facu kao - koga to boli kurac.

William Murderface wrote:
Kakvo govno od čoveka. Prvo kaže - država je platila hranu za ove ljude, a kad mu Čeh kaže, ne, mi smo svojim parama platili hranu za izbeglice, Vulin na to odmahuje rukom uz onu svoju facu kao - koga to boli kurac.

+1

Ne samo sto je Vulin dzukela nego se to dzukelstvo siri vertikalno nanize u njegovoj liniji komande. Jutros je ono govedo koje nosi titulu komesara za izbeglice naredilo volonterima No Borders koji su celu noc kuvali caj za izbeglice i bili sa njima naredio da napusti Berkasovo, a juce su slicno doziveli volonteri iz Dimitrovgrada, koje je samo prisebnost i zdrav razum lokalnog komandira milicije koji im je omogucio nastavak boravka u gradu mimo odluke predstavnice komesarijata za Dimitrovgrad i predsednika opstine.

Volonteri su nezeljeni svedoci nerada i katastrofalnog delovanja drzavnih institucija na celu sa Vulinom, komesarijatom i CK. Ti Cesi su pravi heroji, oni su vec mesec dana na granici, imaju vojnicku organizaciju, jedna polovina je u Bapskoj a druga u Berkasovu. Cak mislim da su se ovi iz Bapske preselili u medjuvremenu u Presevo. Parelelno sa 24-satnim dezurstvom uspevaju da rade fundraising za svoje aktivnosti u Ceskoj.

Vulin inace od ponedeljka koristi izbeglice za pritisak na Hrvatsku, namerno ih iznuruje i razdrazuje da bi ih navabio da krenu u fizicku akciju probijanja ograde.

Natasa iz No Borders

( October 19./20.)
I have no words to describe the suffering of the people in Bapska.
All night until the early morning hours we cooked tea, people were frozen in mud up to knees, barefoot children, no jacket and no shoes, no food, no blankets and without any proper shelter from the cold. 
We shared some rubber boots, blankets and winter clothes that we took from the Miksalište before the trip to Bapska.
There was a lot of pregnant women, babies, old people, on crutches and in a wheelchair.
They collected branches and paper and plastic to make a fire. 
People spend whole night in the cold, in a muddy part of the no man's land and at the surrounding areas which are totally in deep mud, Families with small children were sleeping in the mud.
Children and women are in a terrible mental state of shock, fear, exhaustion.
Many fell into the mud from exhaustion , with no power to move...
There is great tension, Croatian police did not allow anyone to pass until the late morning hours.
Croatian police shouted loudly pushed back people all the time.
Over 2 000 people were stuck, they shouted, "Open the gate," one moment the groups began to cross through other way, accros the field in the mud not knowing whether they will be blocked by the Croatian police.
Shortly thereafter, the gate was opened from the Croatian side.
We heard a lot of curses and bad words by Croatian police, one moment it seemed that they are ready to use tear gas, but fortunately it did not happen on that time.
During the opening and closing of gates, many families are separated,without the permission of Croatian police to cross the gate and try to find their family members .
After about 2000 people manage to cross on the Croatian side, the gate is immediately closed again.
Croatian police on several occasions required our documents, but we refused to give them, because they have no right to do so, we were on part of the no man's land...
A new buses were arriving and more and more people are coming, without knowing what to expect there.
Many of them are confused, do not know whether they are in Serbia or in Croatia, where they have to go...
We set up information material in all the tents where people were staying with current information about traveling and about everything that is happening at the borders.
During the morning hours, while we cooked tea- Commissioner for Refugees Republic of Serbia, Mr.Cucić appeared accompanied and started yelling at us because of criticism we said to all of them and everything they represent ,after many years of participation and empowermentin the repressive system of criminalization and illegalisation people .
He "ordered" to our group to "immediately pack up the equipment for making tea and leave" because we " occupied someone else's yard " .
In that moment, over 300 people was there, sitting in the mud and waiting for a tea, to worm-up for a little bit.
Not a word about the disastrous conditions for 2000- 3000 people at that moment in Bapska.
Some of the "humanitarian" organizations were present but without any significant help, except insufficient blankets, food, clothes, footwear, tents...
Their jeeps with a big logos which were largely stood parked, could be used for transport people, women, children, sick and disabled from the point of arrival of the buses to an area which people crossed by foot and fell down from exhaustion.
Of course, it is not done, just as many times before!
We were stopped by the Doctors Without Borders on the road to Bapska with the appeal to transport a young man who had legs surgery and could not walk, he was with two friends who were helping him.
A large number of people were waiting for medical help on that time.
We saw a large group of Czech volunteers, cooking tea, collecting garbage and helping people on the ground.
On the way back to Belgrade, we have heard statements on radio by Croatian politicians to the media that "Croatia is ready, at some point to put the fence", like already did Bulgaria and Hungary.
Slovenia deployed military units to support police on their southern border with Croatia...
Everywhere for the past 4 years- we witnessed police violence and repression, blockades and the militarization of borders and border areas that prevent the freedom of movement and the right to travel.
People are exposed to great sufferings and brutalities, but they continue to struggle for freedom and dignity, demanding their rights and protesting against the fascist EU and border regimes everywhere.