This is a clear message to the dissenters from inside the elites and to the populace. Putting an extremist (who as a young officer actually ordered his troops to shoot and kill democratic protesters in Moscow in 1991) in charge of the invading army is a threat.
— Aleksandar Djokic (Александар Джокич) (@polidemitolog) October 8, 2022
Rat u Ukrajini
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S tim u vezi
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Sterlkov pak veli:
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Zli stolar.
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Eto, idealan iza gestove dobre volje i obrnuto
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Ima nešto od Dikićevskog vajba
Jbga ja u svakoj novoj ceni na artiklu u samiški pored ruskih vidim i odsjaj ovakvih akcija gromopucatelnog tipa. Vrv je problem u meni a da ste vi što likujete u pravu. Što se mene tiče samo dve reči - smrt svima.
Jbga ja u svakoj novoj ceni na artiklu u samiški pored ruskih vidim i odsjaj ovakvih akcija gromopucatelnog tipa. Vrv je problem u meni a da ste vi što likujete u pravu. Što se mene tiče samo dve reči - smrt svima.
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vole ljudi, moraću ako ovako nastavi i preko 10% plate da trošim na hranu
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postavljen je zato sto je poslusan pa sve ostalo
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inace i tu pricu je izgubio a demonstranti pobedili. dakle L.
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And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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mislim postavljanje ovog tipa je pokazatelj da se pjutin ipak boji vojske.
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And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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Voz sa 15 vagona uspešno je prešao Krimski most posle prve faze remonta, saopštila je Krimska železnica.
Поезд с 15 вагонами успешно прошел по Крымскому мосту после первого этапа ремонта, сообщила Крымская железная дорога pic.twitter.com/t6UZl5bvQX
— НТВ (@ntvru) October 8, 2022
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jel ko u onom vicu kada drmaju kompoziciju
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sami se digli
Now seriously. FSB/PMC try to eliminate leadership of Defense Ministry/GHQ. Before personnel change, FSB is in knockdown — missed Putin's bridge explosion. Defense Ministry can now blame FSB for the future South loss. Isn’t it obvious who made an explosion? Truck arrived from RF.
— Михайло Подоляк (@Podolyak_M) October 8, 2022
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The Russian Defense Ministry has appointed a new invasion commander - and publicly named him for the first time since the war began. Army General Sergei Surovikin has been named by Meduza's sources as a supporter of massive missile strikes on infrastructure - including civilian infrastructure - Meduza
Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu has appointed a new commander of Russian troops in Ukraine.
Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu has appointed a new commander of Russian troops in Ukraine.
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Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu has appointed a new commander of Russian troops in Ukraine. Army General Sergei Surovikin took the post. Since 2017, he had been the head of the Russian Air and Space Forces, and during the "special operation" (as the Russian Federation officially calls the war with Ukraine) he commanded the "South" group, which seized Severodonetsk in Luhansk Region in June.
This was the first time the Russian Defense Ministry had publicly announced the appointment of the commander of the invading forces. Previously, only the names of the commanders of the groupings of troops were announced. The identity of the commander of the Russian army in Ukraine was known only by word of mouth. For example, in April, BBC News reported that the command of the Russian troops was given to Army General Aleksandr Dvornikov, who heads the Southern Military District. Later, the Conflict Intelligence Team, citing its sources, said that Deputy Defense Minister Gennady Zhidko was in charge of the Russian group of troops.
Meduza's sources said several months ago that Surovikin was going to be promoted. A source close to the Russian presidential administration and a source close to the government said that Surovikin's appointment to either one of the key positions in the Russian Defense Ministry or as commander of the group of troops in Donbass was being discussed.
As noted in Russian and Ukrainian telegram channels, the appointment of Surovikin was announced against the backdrop of a successful counterattack by Ukrainian forces, which in early October, in particular, liberated Liman in the Donetsk region and forced Russian troops to leave the northern Kherson region.
What the commander of the Russian army in Ukraine is known for. Sergei Surovikin, now 55, served in special forces units, including in Afghanistan. During the coup d'etat in August 1991 it was the 24-year-old Surovikin with the rank of captain who commanded the battalion of the 2nd Guards Taman motorized rifle division, which tried to break through the barricades at the intersection of the Garden Ring and Novy Arbat. During the clash, three protesters - Dmitry Komar, Ilya Krichevsky and Vladimir Usov - were killed. After the swift defeat of the putschists, they were posthumously awarded the title of Hero of the Soviet Union. Surovikin spent several months in custody, but charges of civilian deaths were eventually dropped against him (the Moscow prosecutor's office decided that he was "following the orders of the command").
Founder of the Wagner PMC Yevgeny Prigozhin (his private troops are actively involved in the invasion, and the businessman himself publicly criticizes the leadership of the Russian Defense Ministry), commenting on the appointment of commander of Russian troops in Ukraine, also recalled the events of August 1991. Surovikin, according to him, "without hesitation, having received an order, sat in a tank and rushed to save his country."
Surovikin took part in the armed conflict in Tajikistan and in the second Chechen war. The head of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, wrote that he had known Surovikin personally and well for almost 15 years. Kadyrov said that "the combined group of forces is now in good hands" and expressed confidence that Surovikin "will improve the situation" at the front.
As Kommersant wrote, Surovikin's subordinates were repeatedly accused of various violations, but he always avoided this. In 2011, Leonid Volkov, who was then a member of the Ekaterinburg City Duma (now one of the closest associates of opposition politician Alexei Navalny), accused Surovikin's wife's company of illegally receiving benefits; the court later demanded that these statements be disproved.
Sergei Surovikin in September 2017, when he commanded a Russian group of troops in Syria
Surovikin commanded Russian troops in Syria. Surovikin led a group of Russian troops in Syria in May 2017, became commander of the Air and Space Forces in October of the same year, and in December he received the title of Hero of Russia for the operation in Syria. In August 2021, Surovikin was promoted to the rank of army general (the highest rank among active officers; no one in the Russian army currently holds the next rank in the table of ranks, that of marshal).
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jel se ovo neka ekipica odavde dala u odvratajzing?
Ruska propaganda protiv amera
— Burrza :man::boy: (@Burrza1) October 7, 2022
Ovo je spektakl :joy::joy: pic.twitter.com/Oa3Nkvo7D4
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Vrlo lepo napravljeno. Mozzart estetika
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Jbt, gde moraju da zive deca ruskih funkcionera Pakao
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rumbeando wrote:Rusi su uspostavili saobraćaj preko mosta za automobile i buseve uz detaljnu proveru,
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Ankara nabacuje teze
Russian President Vladimir Putin wants to strike “a new grand bargain” with the West to erase the humiliations of the post-Cold War period, Turkish presidential adviser Ibrahim Kalin told CNN on Saturday.
In an interview with the American broadcaster, he said that the Ukraine conflict will inevitably end in a negotiated settlement, with the only question being when, “and how much damage will have been done by then?”
Such a settlement will be about more than the borders of Russia and Ukraine, he continued, arguing that what Putin really aims to do is renegotiate the balance of power between Moscow and the West, after a weakened Russia accepted several rounds of NATO expansion in the aftermath of the Cold War.
“Our understanding is that Mr. Putin wants to have a new grand bargain, a new deal, with the West,” Kalin said. The Turkish official referenced agreements signed by Moscow and NATO in the early 1990s – which included the 1997 NATO-Russia Founding Act, which stated that the alliance would continue to expand, and the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, in which Russia agreed not to use force against its neighbors – as decisions Putin would like to re-do.
“The Russian perception is that the Russia of that day, that signed that agreement – that is, the Russia of the Gorbachevs and the Yeltsins – is over,” Kalin claimed. “There is a new Russia, there is a new world, there is a new reality, and they want to have a new bargain.”
Putin declared last week that “the ongoing collapse of Western hegemony is irreversible,” and that “things will never be the same.” A multipolar world, he said, will give non-Western nations “an opportunity to strengthen their sovereignty.”
According to Kalin, “This puts of course the entire global order, the liberal order, to a test.” He added: “So far the response has been war from both sides.”
Western leaders have not indicated that they intend to negotiate an end to the Ukraine conflict in the near future. Washington’s official line is that it will continue to funnel tens of billions of dollars’ worth of arms to Kiev “for as long as it takes,” and will allow Ukraine to dictate its terms for ending the conflict.
Amid the broader conflict between Russia and the West, Türkiye has positioned itself as a middleman, with Ankara hosting peace talks between Russia and Ukraine in March that ultimately broke down. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Thursday called for both sides to return to negotiations, declaring that “even the worst peace will be better than war.”
https://www.rt.com/russia/564300-putin-west-deal-turkiye/
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Moskva je danas sama sebi pripisala vlasništvo nad atomskom centralom Zaporožje:
Федеральное государственное унитарное предприятие (ФГУП) «Запорожская атомная электростанция» создано в России с головным офисом в Москве. Соответствующее распоряжение премьер-министра РФ Михаила Мишустина опубликовано в субботу на официальном интернет-портале правовой информации.
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Najgora stvar u ovom ratu nisu mrtvi ljudi i spaljeni gradovi nego rast Turske kao nekog kurčevog faktora.
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Del Cap wrote:Ankara nabacuje teze
Russian President Vladimir Putin wants to strike “a new grand bargain” with the West to erase the humiliations of the post-Cold War period, Turkish presidential adviser Ibrahim Kalin told CNN on Saturday.
In an interview with the American broadcaster, he said that the Ukraine conflict will inevitably end in a negotiated settlement, with the only question being when, “and how much damage will have been done by then?”
Such a settlement will be about more than the borders of Russia and Ukraine, he continued, arguing that what Putin really aims to do is renegotiate the balance of power between Moscow and the West, after a weakened Russia accepted several rounds of NATO expansion in the aftermath of the Cold War.
“Our understanding is that Mr. Putin wants to have a new grand bargain, a new deal, with the West,” Kalin said. The Turkish official referenced agreements signed by Moscow and NATO in the early 1990s – which included the 1997 NATO-Russia Founding Act, which stated that the alliance would continue to expand, and the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, in which Russia agreed not to use force against its neighbors – as decisions Putin would like to re-do.
“The Russian perception is that the Russia of that day, that signed that agreement – that is, the Russia of the Gorbachevs and the Yeltsins – is over,” Kalin claimed. “There is a new Russia, there is a new world, there is a new reality, and they want to have a new bargain.”
Putin declared last week that “the ongoing collapse of Western hegemony is irreversible,” and that “things will never be the same.” A multipolar world, he said, will give non-Western nations “an opportunity to strengthen their sovereignty.”
According to Kalin, “This puts of course the entire global order, the liberal order, to a test.” He added: “So far the response has been war from both sides.”
Western leaders have not indicated that they intend to negotiate an end to the Ukraine conflict in the near future. Washington’s official line is that it will continue to funnel tens of billions of dollars’ worth of arms to Kiev “for as long as it takes,” and will allow Ukraine to dictate its terms for ending the conflict.
Amid the broader conflict between Russia and the West, Türkiye has positioned itself as a middleman, with Ankara hosting peace talks between Russia and Ukraine in March that ultimately broke down. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Thursday called for both sides to return to negotiations, declaring that “even the worst peace will be better than war.”
https://www.rt.com/russia/564300-putin-west-deal-turkiye/
Postavlja se pitanje - zasto bi tako nesto Zapad/Washington dogovarao, ako bi dogovarao, sa Rusijom, a ne sa Kinom
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Kina je u budućnosti potencijalna opasnost za USA, Rusija to nije, ona je slaba razvaljena zemlja. Sa druge strane, snaga Kine je u onome što može da uradi, a potencijal Rusije u onome što ima, a može da se iskoristi.
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Mislim, Zapad ako bi nesto cinio Rusiji, to bi iskljucivo moglo da bude u funkciji slabljenja kineskog polozaja u svetu, obrunuti Deng, a nikako u funkciji "prizavanja novog poretka u svetu", prosto Rusija nema tu snagu (sad se vidi ni vojnu), da bi se sa njom pravili takvi grand bargains - nema nikakve logike da bi ih Kina, ili pak Indija, uopste postovali ili se osvrtali za tim. Rusija moze da dobije nesto (moooooooozda, i ne sa Putinom) da predje od junior partnera Kine u status junior partnera Zapada.