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    Nektivni Ugnelj

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sat Oct 08, 2022 7:41 pm

    S tim u vezi

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    Post by fikret selimbašić Sat Oct 08, 2022 7:51 pm

    Sterlkov pak veli:

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    Međuopštinski pustolov.

    Zli stolar.
    Nektivni Ugnelj

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sat Oct 08, 2022 8:18 pm

    Eto, idealan iza gestove dobre volje i obrnuto
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    Post by kondo Sat Oct 08, 2022 8:30 pm

    Ima nešto od Dikićevskog vajba

    Jbga ja u svakoj novoj ceni na artiklu u samiški pored ruskih vidim i odsjaj ovakvih akcija gromopucatelnog tipa. Vrv je problem u meni a da ste vi što likujete u pravu. Što se mene tiče samo dve reči - smrt svima.


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    Post by Guest Sat Oct 08, 2022 8:32 pm

    vole ljudi, moraću ako ovako nastavi i preko 10% plate da trošim na hranu
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    Post by boomer crook Sat Oct 08, 2022 8:56 pm

    postavljen je zato sto je poslusan pa sve ostalo


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    And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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    Post by boomer crook Sat Oct 08, 2022 8:56 pm

    inace i tu pricu je izgubio a demonstranti pobedili. dakle L.


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    Post by boomer crook Sat Oct 08, 2022 8:58 pm

    mislim postavljanje ovog tipa je pokazatelj da se pjutin ipak boji vojske.


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    And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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    Post by rumbeando Sat Oct 08, 2022 9:01 pm

    Voz sa 15 vagona uspešno je prešao Krimski most posle prve faze remonta, saopštila je Krimska železnica.

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    Post by boomer crook Sat Oct 08, 2022 9:06 pm

    jel ko u onom vicu kada drmaju kompoziciju


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    Post by Notxor Sat Oct 08, 2022 9:09 pm

    sami se digli



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    Post by Notxor Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:09 pm

    The Russian Defense Ministry has appointed a new invasion commander - and publicly named him for the first time since the war began. Army General Sergei Surovikin has been named by Meduza's sources as a supporter of massive missile strikes on infrastructure - including civilian infrastructure - Meduza
    Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu has appointed a new commander of Russian troops in Ukraine.

    Spoiler:


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    Post by kondo Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:17 pm

    jel se ovo neka ekipica odavde dala u odvratajzing?




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    Post by Guest Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:18 pm

    To je bila i moja prva misao
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    Post by Zus Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:28 pm

    Vrlo lepo napravljeno. Mozzart estetika
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    Post by ficfiric Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:39 pm

    Jbt, gde moraju da zive deca ruskih funkcionera Rat u Ukrajini - Page 23 3363120308 Pakao Rat u Ukrajini - Page 23 4135669698


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    Post by MNE Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:25 pm

    rumbeando wrote:Rusi su uspostavili saobraćaj preko mosta za automobile i buseve uz detaljnu proveru, 
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    Post by Del Cap Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:28 pm

    Ankara nabacuje teze

    Russian President Vladimir Putin wants to strike “a new grand bargain” with the West to erase the humiliations of the post-Cold War period, Turkish presidential adviser Ibrahim Kalin told CNN on Saturday.

    In an interview with the American broadcaster, he said that the Ukraine conflict will inevitably end in a negotiated settlement, with the only question being when, “and how much damage will have been done by then?”

    Such a settlement will be about more than the borders of Russia and Ukraine, he continued, arguing that what Putin really aims to do is renegotiate the balance of power between Moscow and the West, after a weakened Russia accepted several rounds of NATO expansion in the aftermath of the Cold War.

    “Our understanding is that Mr. Putin wants to have a new grand bargain, a new deal, with the West,” Kalin said. The Turkish official referenced agreements signed by Moscow and NATO in the early 1990s – which included the 1997 NATO-Russia Founding Act, which stated that the alliance would continue to expand, and the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, in which Russia agreed not to use force against its neighbors – as decisions Putin would like to re-do.

    “The Russian perception is that the Russia of that day, that signed that agreement – that is, the Russia of the Gorbachevs and the Yeltsins – is over,” Kalin claimed. “There is a new Russia, there is a new world, there is a new reality, and they want to have a new bargain.”

    Putin declared last week that “the ongoing collapse of Western hegemony is irreversible,” and that “things will never be the same.” A multipolar world, he said, will give non-Western nations “an opportunity to strengthen their sovereignty.”

    According to Kalin, “This puts of course the entire global order, the liberal order, to a test.” He added: “So far the response has been war from both sides.”

    Western leaders have not indicated that they intend to negotiate an end to the Ukraine conflict in the near future. Washington’s official line is that it will continue to funnel tens of billions of dollars’ worth of arms to Kiev “for as long as it takes,” and will allow Ukraine to dictate its terms for ending the conflict.

    Amid the broader conflict between Russia and the West, Türkiye has positioned itself as a middleman, with Ankara hosting peace talks between Russia and Ukraine in March that ultimately broke down. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Thursday called for both sides to return to negotiations, declaring that “even the worst peace will be better than war.”

    https://www.rt.com/russia/564300-putin-west-deal-turkiye/
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    Post by Del Cap Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:40 pm

    Moskva je danas sama sebi pripisala vlasništvo nad atomskom centralom Zaporožje:

    Федеральное государственное унитарное предприятие (ФГУП) «Запорожская атомная электростанция» создано в России с головным офисом в Москве. Соответствующее распоряжение премьер-министра РФ Михаила Мишустина опубликовано в субботу на официальном интернет-портале правовой информации.
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    Post by kondo Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:47 pm

    Najgora stvar u ovom ratu nisu mrtvi ljudi i spaljeni gradovi nego rast Turske kao nekog kurčevog faktora.


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    Post by MNE Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:50 pm

    Erdogan glas razuma.
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    Post by Guest Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:21 am

    vidi se po liri da razvaljuje
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:50 am

    Del Cap wrote:Ankara nabacuje teze

    Russian President Vladimir Putin wants to strike “a new grand bargain” with the West to erase the humiliations of the post-Cold War period, Turkish presidential adviser Ibrahim Kalin told CNN on Saturday.

    In an interview with the American broadcaster, he said that the Ukraine conflict will inevitably end in a negotiated settlement, with the only question being when, “and how much damage will have been done by then?”

    Such a settlement will be about more than the borders of Russia and Ukraine, he continued, arguing that what Putin really aims to do is renegotiate the balance of power between Moscow and the West, after a weakened Russia accepted several rounds of NATO expansion in the aftermath of the Cold War.

    “Our understanding is that Mr. Putin wants to have a new grand bargain, a new deal, with the West,” Kalin said. The Turkish official referenced agreements signed by Moscow and NATO in the early 1990s – which included the 1997 NATO-Russia Founding Act, which stated that the alliance would continue to expand, and the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, in which Russia agreed not to use force against its neighbors – as decisions Putin would like to re-do.

    “The Russian perception is that the Russia of that day, that signed that agreement – that is, the Russia of the Gorbachevs and the Yeltsins – is over,” Kalin claimed. “There is a new Russia, there is a new world, there is a new reality, and they want to have a new bargain.”

    Putin declared last week that “the ongoing collapse of Western hegemony is irreversible,” and that “things will never be the same.” A multipolar world, he said, will give non-Western nations “an opportunity to strengthen their sovereignty.”

    According to Kalin, “This puts of course the entire global order, the liberal order, to a test.” He added: “So far the response has been war from both sides.”

    Western leaders have not indicated that they intend to negotiate an end to the Ukraine conflict in the near future. Washington’s official line is that it will continue to funnel tens of billions of dollars’ worth of arms to Kiev “for as long as it takes,” and will allow Ukraine to dictate its terms for ending the conflict.

    Amid the broader conflict between Russia and the West, Türkiye has positioned itself as a middleman, with Ankara hosting peace talks between Russia and Ukraine in March that ultimately broke down. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Thursday called for both sides to return to negotiations, declaring that “even the worst peace will be better than war.”

    https://www.rt.com/russia/564300-putin-west-deal-turkiye/

    Postavlja se pitanje - zasto bi tako nesto Zapad/Washington dogovarao, ako bi dogovarao, sa Rusijom, a ne sa Kinom
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    Post by Guest Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:56 am

    Kina je u budućnosti potencijalna opasnost za USA, Rusija to nije, ona je slaba razvaljena zemlja. Sa druge strane, snaga Kine je u onome što može da uradi, a potencijal Rusije u onome što ima, a može da se iskoristi.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:57 am

    Mislim, Zapad ako bi nesto cinio Rusiji, to bi iskljucivo moglo da bude u funkciji slabljenja kineskog polozaja u svetu, obrunuti Deng, a nikako u funkciji "prizavanja novog poretka u svetu", prosto Rusija nema tu snagu (sad se vidi ni vojnu), da bi se sa njom pravili takvi grand bargains - nema nikakve logike da bi ih Kina, ili pak Indija, uopste postovali ili se osvrtali za tim. Rusija moze da dobije nesto (moooooooozda, i ne sa Putinom) da predje od junior partnera Kine u status junior partnera Zapada.

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