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    Post by паће Thu Sep 29, 2022 11:56 am

    Mór Thököly wrote:Dobro je da se u zivotu nisi bavio drustvenim naukama Rat u Ukrajini 1143415371

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    Post by Guest Thu Sep 29, 2022 12:04 pm

    Posebna sednica Dume, na kojoj će govoriti Putin, zakazana za sutra u 15h.
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    Post by Guest Thu Sep 29, 2022 12:07 pm

    i evo ga.

    ТАСС:heavy_check_mark:
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    Post by rumbeando Thu Sep 29, 2022 12:28 pm

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    Post by Ferenc Puskás Thu Sep 29, 2022 1:32 pm

    Prvi osumnjičeni za sabotažu plinovoda su naravn USA, imaju motiv, imaju sredstva. Ipak bih ostavio zrno sumnje da bi mogla biti i Rusija. Potencijalni motivi bi mogli biti u tome da se GAZPROM oslobađa prijetnje sankcija zbog nepoštivanja ugovora i strateška odluka Rusije o potpunom odvajanju od Zapada. O ovom drugom govori u prilog jedan text koji je ljetos napisao Branko Milanović o žrtvovanju ekonomske dobiti zarad ojačavanja suvereniteta. Tad sam bio vrlo skeptičan prema ishodištima i zaključcima analize, ali nakon uništenja plinovoda sam ga opet pročitao. Ako je u pravu, velika politika je luđa, nego što sam zamišljao. Koga zanima, text:

    https://www.globalpolicyjournal.com/blog/07/06/2022/what-if-putins-true-goals-are-different


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    Post by rumbeando Thu Sep 29, 2022 1:44 pm

    U Dagestanu pozivaju u vojne odseke autom sa razglasom. Proletos su to praktikovali u DPR i LNR.

    „Svi građani muškog pola moraju odmah da se jave vojnom odseku!“

    Obećana vam je delimična mobilizacija? Delimično će biti mobilisan ceo Derbent.



    Mala je šansa da je fejk, pošto ima nekoliko različitih snimaka - u tvitu ispod je kompilacija.



    Derbent je drugi grad po veličini u Dagestanu, ima oko 120.000 stanovnika i u njemu Rusi čine 4% stanovništva.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derbent
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    Post by MNE Thu Sep 29, 2022 1:48 pm

    "Prvi osumnjičeni za sabotažu plinovoda su naravn USA, imaju motiv, imaju sredstva. Ipak bih ostavio zrno sumnje da bi mogla biti i Rusija."

    varijanta 1 ovo je uradila USA koja će isto uraditi i norveškom gasovodu i za to optužiti Ruse jer će to izgledati kao osveta i

    varijanta 2 ovo je uradila Rusija koja će isto uraditi i norveškom gasovodu jer ako mogu nama da buše možemo i mi drugima

    uglavnom imam neki osjećaj da će da strada i norveški gasovod
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    Post by Јанош Винету Thu Sep 29, 2022 2:35 pm

    Mór Thököly wrote:
    Cousin Billy wrote:Ne sme se dovoditi u pitanje SVO kao takva, a o detaljima se potpuno slobodno raspravlja. Bekstvo iz Kijeva su krili kao zmija noge, a posle Harkova su bili vrlo transparentni. Ne znam baš da li je to pretnja Putinu. U Nemačkoj su (disclaimer: ne izjednačavam ta dva sistema) isto tako slobodno gunđali da je Gering debeli kreten itd, ali se znalo gde je granica kritike. Mislim da se zna i u Rusiji.

    Pa ne dovodi se u pitanje rat tj svo kao takav. Ali - slobodna rasprava o toku rata sa "patriotske" pozicije je opasna po vlast. Svim tim ljudima je Rusija neuporedivo bitnija od Putina, a to nisu pacifisti. Sta to sve znaci za Putinovu kalkulaciju o eskalaciji je drugo (i opasno) pitanje


    Стрелков је врло незадовољан.

    Каже да у принципу не жели да мења руководство тј. Путина али да његови двадесетогодишњи дупелисци губе рат и за себе и за државу. Нису у стању да уче било шта ново, ”они в принципе необучаеми”. 

    Врше се нерезонске операције, Вагнер продире и узима Бахмут у момемнту кад их окружују са обе стране.

    Не користе се најмодернија средства, блокира се снабдевање војски ЛДНР-а.
    Руски еквивалент украјинског ”Повернис живим” је искорењен у старту, не може неко да наоружава ЛДНР војску без да они лупе свој пљачкашки порез. 

    ЛДНРовци не могу да купе ништа нити имају дотур из Русије и зато иду голи и боси, у опреми из Другог рата, док у Русији стоје пуни магацини. За све се пита ”више руководство”, за разлику од Украјинаца који се снабдевају независно од централе, моле за донације, кукају, преклињу, купују, наручују али онда имају са чиме да испуне задатке. ОСУ им испоручују неке ствари, за друге се сналазе од непосредних донација и тиме добијају оно што им треба у том конкретном тренутку за испуњавање тактичких циљева.

    Стрелков делује да још није преломио али да је врло незадовољан.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Thu Sep 29, 2022 2:41 pm

    Njima treba Ataturk. Al ovo bez zajebancije.
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    Post by Летећи Полип Thu Sep 29, 2022 2:43 pm

    Imali su oni svog Ataturka.   Rat u Ukrajini 29297947


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Thu Sep 29, 2022 2:45 pm

    Oni beze od ruskog (ne rusij(an)skog) nacionalizma kao djavo od krsta, ali sacekace ih. I to se mozda dobro zavrsi po Ukrajinu, ali neki narod unutar Rusije ce debelo da najebe. Ali nece biti opasnosti po svetski mir.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Thu Sep 29, 2022 2:45 pm

    Летећи Полип wrote:Imali su oni svog Ataturka.   Rat u Ukrajini 29297947

    Ipak ne
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    Post by rumbeando Thu Sep 29, 2022 3:59 pm

    European security officials on Monday and Tuesday observed Russian Navy support ships in the vicinity of leaks in the Nord Stream pipelines likely caused by underwater explosions, according two Western intelligence officials and one other source familiar with the matter.

    It’s unclear whether the ships had anything to do with those explosions, these sources and others said – but it’s one of the many factors that investigators will be looking into.

    Russian submarines were also observed not far from those areas last week, one of the intelligence officials said.

    Three US officials said that the US has no thorough explanation yet for what happened, days after the explosions appeared to cause three separate and simultaneous leaks in the two pipelines on Monday.

    Russian ships routinely operate in the area, according to one Danish military official, who emphasized that the presence of the ships doesn’t necessarily indicate that Russia caused the damage.

    “We see them every week,” this person said. “Russian activities in the Baltic Sea have increased in recent years. They’re quite often testing our awareness – both at sea and in the air.”
    https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/28/politics/nord-stream-pipeline-leak-russian-navy-ships/index.html

    The U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) had weeks ago warned Germany about possible attacks on gas pipelines in the Baltic Sea, German magazine Spiegel said on Tuesday, after gas leaks in Russia pipelines to Germany were reported.

    The German government received the CIA tip in summer, Spiegel reported, citing unnamed sources, adding that Berlin assumes a targeted attack on Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines.

    A German government spokesperson declined to comment, Spiegel added.
    https://www.reuters.com/world/cia-warned-berlin-about-possible-attacks-gas-pipelines-summer-spiegel-2022-09-27/
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    Post by rumbeando Thu Sep 29, 2022 4:28 pm

    Repairing the ruptures that occurred on the lines of the Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 gas pipelines may take more than six months, Pavel Zavalny, who heads the State Duma’s (lower house) Committee on Energy, believes.
    In his opinion, there are two ways to fix the damage: making a caisson (a watertight chamber used in underwater construction work or as a foundation - TASS), or hoisting the gas pipelines to the surface.
    "One way is to manufacture a caisson that will be brought to the pipe. Work will be carried out in the caisson to either replace the pipe or fix it. The depths allow this. Of course, a complex engineering underwater structure would have to be created. That being said, the timeframe - the design, manufacturing and the works - all this would take not just months but even longer. The second option is lifting [the pipes]," he told reporters on the sidelines of the Sakhalin Oil and Gas forum on Thursday.
    According to him, raising the gas pipeline to the surface would require cranes with a lifting capacity of 3,000 tons.
    "As part of the design of these gas pipelines, the risks of its work being disrupted were factored in, and, accordingly, the possibility of repairs was taken into account. Therefore, the pipe was laid in such a way that would make it possible to hoist it up. This will also take time, technical equipment, cranes, ships, and so on. But, in my opinion, technically it is possible. It may take a long time, it's not a month or two, it's six months or a year, at least," Zavalny explained.
    He noted that the decisive factor in choosing options is the availability of ship equipment to carry out repairs.
    "Probably, these pipe-laying vessels are under sanctions, so they simply won't be allowed to be used to repair the gas pipeline," the legislator admitted.
    https://tass.com/economy/1515185
     
    An emergency meeting of the United Nations Security Council concerning acts of sabotage against the Nord Stream 1 and 2 gas pipelines is scheduled for Friday, September 30, Russian Deputy Permanent Representative to the UN Dmitry Polyansky said on Wednesday.
    Earlier, Russia had requested a UN SC session in connection with provocations on the pipelines.
    https://tass.com/politics/1514847
     
    The Prosecutor General's Office of the Russian Federation has taken measures in connection with actions against the Russian gas pipelines Nord Stream –1 and Nord Stream-2. This is stated in the message of the supervisory authority.
    No later than September 26, 2022, deliberate actions were committed in the Bornholm Island area to damage the Nord Stream–1 and Nord Stream–2 gas pipelines laid along the bottom of the Baltic Sea.
    Through these pipelines, the Russian Federation supplied natural gas to the countries of the European Union both for industrial use and for residential heating purposes.
    As a result of these actions, the Russian Federation has suffered significant economic damage.
    Due to the presence of signs of a crime provided for in part 1 of Article 361 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (an act of international terrorism), a criminal case was initiated by the Investigation Department of the FSB of Russia on materials sent by the Prosecutor General's Office of the Russian Federation in accordance with paragraph 2 of part 2 of Article 37 of the Criminal Procedure Code of the Russian Federation. A preliminary investigation has been launched.
    https://www.akm.ru/eng/news/a-case-has-been-initiated-in-connection-with-actions-against-the-russian-nord-stream-1-and-nord-stre/
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    Post by boomer crook Thu Sep 29, 2022 4:31 pm

    u petak ce putin da potpise aneksiju. da li su te teritorije uopste zaokruzene?


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Thu Sep 29, 2022 4:35 pm

    Ma de su zaokruzene, samo Luganskom vladaju otprilike kompletno
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    Post by fikret selimbašić Thu Sep 29, 2022 4:35 pm

    Samo je oblast Luganjska pod punom kontrolom. Drže i dobar dio Hersona i Zaporožja, Donjeck kao oblast u kojoj je i počeo rat i zbog koje se i krenulo u SVO kontrolišu malo više od 50%. Sad možda i manje jer su zadnjih desetak dana Ukrajinci ponovo zauzeli neke dijelove koje su izgubili u maju i junu.


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    Post by rumbeando Thu Sep 29, 2022 4:38 pm

    Kačio sam danas mapu ovde:
    https://vasudeva.forumburundi.com/t2064p975-rat-u-ukrajini#689011

    Samo grad Zaporožje je pre rata imao skoro 800.000 stanovnika.
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    Post by Margit Savović Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:33 pm

    Mene je danas prvi put uhvatilo nešto a la napad panike. Gledala sam u čartove i ide nam gora kriza nego 2008. Manijak sutra anektira Donbas i plašim se all-out rata. OPEC će izgleda da ograniči sutra output.
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    Post by Летећи Полип Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:38 pm

    Ti i Talason samo sirite paniku. I to bas sada kada nas je pritislo sa svih strana.  Rat u Ukrajini 2304934895



    Kod nas je kriza odavno vec pocela. Secam se da je 2019. reklamni slogan Infostuda bio da nude preko 9000 poslova na svojim stranicama. Danas su pali na ispod 4000.


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    Post by Erős Pista Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:42 pm

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    Post by konjski nil Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:47 pm

    Margit Savović wrote:Gledala sam u čartove i ide nam gora kriza nego 2008.

    šta kaže soc za nekretnine  Rat u Ukrajini 2304934895
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    Post by Guest Thu Sep 29, 2022 8:21 pm

    Летећи Полип wrote:Ti i Talason samo sirite paniku. I to bas sada kada nas je pritislo sa svih strana.  Rat u Ukrajini 2304934895



    Kod nas je kriza odavno vec pocela. Secam se da je 2019. reklamni slogan Infostuda bio da nude preko 9000 poslova na svojim stranicama. Danas su pali na ispod 4000.

    Ja se ne sećam da sam ikada širio paniku.

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