Rat u Ukrajini

Odmah i Dzonsonov odgovor.

DZonson: Bez pritiska na Zelenskog

Svetske sile ne smeju pritiskati ukrajinskog predsednika Volodimira Zelenski da prihvati loš mirovni sporazum sa ruskim predsednikom Vladimirom Putinom, izjavio je danas premijer Velike Britanije Boris DŽonson, javlja Rojters.

Britanska ministarka spoljnih poslova Liz Tras rekla je na sednici vlade da je London spreman za nove sankcije Rusiji zbog napada na Ukrajinu, dodao je DŽonsonov portparol.

DŽonson je rekao da će Britanija ostati na čelu zemalja koje pružaju podršku Ukrajini.

"DŽonson je, takođe, izjavio da je od suštinskog značaja da Zelenski ne bude pod pritiskom da prihvati loš mirovni sporazum, jer loši sporazumi ne traju dugo. On je rekao da svet mora da izbegne bilo koji ishod u kojem bi delovalo da se Putinova nedozvoljena agresija isplatila", dodao je portparol britanskog premijera.

Ovo je vikinsko-diplomatski recnik kojim se daje poruka da rat ne sme stati i nemoj da je neko dirao naseg malog.

Rusi inače najavljuju sprovođenje referenduma o prisajedinjenju Rusiji u Hersonskoj oblasti da bi zaustavili rat i olakšali mirovne pregovore.

Da, zato diplomatija postoji, da se pregovara i sa najvecim neprijateljem i zato primaju platu, a ne da dobijaju uputstva od Dzonsona sta se sme a sta se ne sme. Al dobro, sto da se ne nastavi sa politikom samo sve ostrije i sve zategnutije sa Rusijom, vidi se da ovih 15-ak godina vode u dobrom smeru.

Ukrajina se neće složiti da se žitarice izvoze iz ukrajinskih luka ruskim brodovima, rekao je predsednik Ukrajine Volodimir Zelenski za današnje izdanje londonskog "Fajnenšl tajmsa".

"Svi znaju za činjenicu da nećemo pustiti ruske brodove u ukrajinske luke, jer nas napadaju svakodnevno", rekao je Zelenski, preneo je TAS S.

Predsednik Ukrajine je rekao da je nemoguće postići dogovor sa Moskvom po tom pitanju.

Zelenski je rekao da je Kijev predložio da se stvori "bezbedan pomorski koridor koji bi mogle da koriste sve zemlje, osim Ruske Federacije", a kako bi se izvezle žitarice iz ukrajinskih luka.

Sa obje strane jaki zahtjevi. Odvrtaće se još.

У Украјини су донели закон пре годину и по дана по ком се забрањује улазак бродовима под руском заставом у украјинске луке. Чудно да Зеленски то не спомиње.
Не знам одакле је дошла идеја да руски бродови иду по жито, личи да их тролују Руси због тог закона.

Ludacki tekst

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/06/how-russia-can-and-will-de-nato-size-europe.html

How Russia Can (And Will?) De-NATO-size Europe

In a video published yesterday Gonzalo Lire, currently under house arrest in Karkov, is asking a very interesting question:
What Happens To Europe When Russia Wins? (vid)
Lira states, and I agree with him, that Russia will win the war in the Ukraine, take the south and east to likely create a new country and leave the rest of the cadaver for Poland, Hungary, Romania, Lithuania and others to feast on.
But then what?
The U.S. controlled NATO will still be there. It is practically guaranteed that the U.S. will use it to push for revenge for the loss of Ukraine. This will be done by a steady buildup of troops and long range missile capabilities along Russia's Nordic and Baltic borders and additional naval threats in the northern Arctic as well as the southern Black Sea. Some ten years from now the U.S. would be able to again try to wage a big (proxy) war against Russia. Then with a decent chance to win.
No negotiations or peace agreements will prevent that. The U.S. is famously non-agreement-capable (недоговороспособны). It has broken ALL promises and agreements it has ever made with Russia.

pleaded guilty

British mercenaries Sean Pinner and Aiden Aslin, as well as Moroccan Saadun Brahim, partially pleaded guilty in the DPR court. pic.twitter.com/X0oETarMtR

— Spriteer (@spriteer_774400) June 8, 2022

kondo wrote:Ludacki tekst

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/06/how-russia-can-and-will-de-nato-size-europe.html

How Russia Can (And Will?) De-NATO-size Europe

In a video published yesterday Gonzalo Lire, currently under house arrest in Karkov, is asking a very interesting question:
What Happens To Europe When Russia Wins? (vid)
Lira states, and I agree with him, that Russia will win the war in the Ukraine, take the south and east to likely create a new country and leave the rest of the cadaver for Poland, Hungary, Romania, Lithuania and others to feast on.
But then what?
The U.S. controlled NATO will still be there. It is practically guaranteed that the U.S. will use it to push for revenge for the loss of Ukraine. This will be done by a steady buildup of troops and long range missile capabilities along Russia's Nordic and Baltic borders and additional naval threats in the northern Arctic as well as the southern Black Sea. Some ten years from now the U.S. would be able to again try to wage a big (proxy) war against Russia. Then with a decent chance to win.
No negotiations or peace agreements will prevent that. The U.S. is famously non-agreement-capable (недоговороспособны). It has broken ALL promises and agreements it has ever made with Russia.

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Notxor wrote:pleaded guilty

British mercenaries Sean Pinner and Aiden Aslin, as well as Moroccan Saadun Brahim, partially pleaded guilty in the DPR court. pic.twitter.com/X0oETarMtR

— Spriteer (@spriteer_774400) June 8, 2022

Zasto se ovom olosu sudi?

DPR je pravna država - nije to USA da ubija iranske generale kad im se digne.

The mayor of Kramatorsk: “Let me give you my professional opinion as mayor: if we don’t get heavy weapons in two or three weeks, we’re fucked.” https://t.co/jhQ55z1YUz

— Franz-Stefan Gady (@HoansSolo) June 8, 2022

According to Brigadier General Oleksandr Tarnavsky, the deputy commander of Ukrainian forces on the eastern front, Ukrainian forces lack skill & experience as a result of heavy losses among the most experienced Ukrainian troops. pic.twitter.com/vQTqUhObzZ

— Franz-Stefan Gady (@HoansSolo) June 8, 2022

Svako pobedjuje na svom frontu...(osim, sada, Ukrajine)

Sberbank has suspended transactions in yuan, apparently because Sberbank's correspondent bank in China refuses transactions to Russia's largest bank. It seems like US and EU sanctions are making Sberbank untouchable for major Chinese banks. /1https://t.co/4AfCZkjAkz

— Artyom Lukin (@ArtyomLukin) June 9, 2022

Notxor wrote:pleaded guilty

British mercenaries Sean Pinner and Aiden Aslin, as well as Moroccan Saadun Brahim, partially pleaded guilty in the DPR court. pic.twitter.com/X0oETarMtR

— Spriteer (@spriteer_774400) June 8, 2022

Prve vesti kažu: smrtna kazna.

bezveze je da ih streljaju, bolje je da ih puste da trce kroz minsko polje dok srbski chetnici vezbaju na njima gadjanje pokretnih ciljeva maljutkama

To je varvarski, bolje ko što su Valjevci radili Hadezeovcima u Slavoniji: skupiš ih na gomilu, uhvate se za ruke, pa kroz minsko polje.

Сегодня отмечается 350-летие со дня рождения Петра I - выдающегося государственного деятеля России, основателя регулярной армии и флота.

"Petar Prvi je vratio i ojačao teritorije, ta sudbina je pripala i nama", rekao je Putin na sastanku sa mladim preduzetnicima.

Mladi preduzetnici ni o cemu drugom ni ne razmisljaju...

Ja bih im smanjio kazne na minimum, ako se Liz pred kamerama pojebe sa veprom - englesko rešenje.

I utterly condemn the sentencing of Aiden Aslin and Shaun Pinner held by Russian proxies in eastern Ukraine.

They are prisoners of war. This is a sham judgment with absolutely no legitimacy.

My thoughts are with the families. We continue to do everything we can to support them.

— Liz Truss (@trussliz) June 9, 2022

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jun/02/russia-economic-war-ukraine-food-fuel-price-vladimir-putin?CMP=share_btn_fb&fbclid=IwAR1tPlchZedRdEPILoAQE1N4RTsy3O9mU9WBb6xwT1IqtKlNYVZ-cItZL-Q

Ma on i Jenkins su i tokom Brexita imali "pametne" savete. Aj napravi deal aki je to tako jednostavno. Ljudi neki su umislili da znajutacno sta je Putinov cilj u ratu i kao, ajde, in to hoce pa da pricamo. Ako krenu s njim da pregovaraju from the position of weakness, prvo je najebala Ukrajina, a onda i ostali.

Pa upravo to. Naoružaj Ulrajinu koliko god možeš i ne popuštaj. Daleko je zima, nije još vreme da se pregovara.

Mislim, ako Ukrajina hice pregovore i mir (po bilo koju cenu), to je onda drugo. Njihova je zemlja, imaju pravo da sklope mir kakav god hoce, onda naravno. Ali sve dok Ukrajina hoce da se bori - pomazi im sto vise mozes.