Rat u Ukrajini

rumbeando wrote:

U.S. will not send Ukraine rocket systems that can reach Russia, says Biden https://t.co/gVRSkMH4WB

— PiQ  (@PriapusIQ) May 30, 2022

A quick response from Moscow where #Russia Security Council Deputy Chairman Dmitry Medvedev calls the @POTUS decision "rational."

Ukrajinci rusku teritoriju mogu da dohvate i ručnim bombama. Baška što Bajden u izjavi ne naglašava koje raketne sisteme neće dostaviti.

CNN and The Washington Post reported on Friday the Biden administration was leaning towards sending that and another system, the High Mobility Artillery Rocket System, known as HIMARS, as part of a larger military aid package to Ukraine.

It was not clear which system Biden was referring to in his remarks.

pa to, sa granice mogu i petardom da napadnu rusiju. ali da, verovatno se misli na himars i slično.

Ma gluposti, to je samo polazna izjava koja sluzi da zbunjuje i salje kontradiktorne signale. Kad Jenki kaze da nece slati nista dalekometno, ocekuj da na kraju balade eskalira dotle da salje stvari koje dosezu minimum 1000 km.

"Necemo slati nista sto stize do Rusije" ce postati "slacemo strogo odbrambene sisteme", pa "slacemo nesto protiv brodova", "slacemo rakete dugog dometa ali ne i nosace pa ce domet biti ogranicen", "dobro, poslali smo nosace, ali Ukrajinci ne znaju sifre da gadjaju preko 300 km", "da, vec smo isporucili sve sto je potrebno" i na kraju balade "nakon sinocnjeg dogadjaja X / velikog stradanja civila Y, spremni smo da odgovorimo - necete verovati, ali nase haubice, predator dronovi i dalekometne rakete su vec spremne u Ukrajini i vec od sutra ce biti korisceni"

Necemo slati nista sto stize do Rusije. Iz Amerike.

rumbeando wrote:War sucks kad nisi general.

Very pessimistic towards Ukrainian leadership: "You have to understand that there are two castes in this country: the upper, and the lower. We're the lower. They get the money, and we're expected to just march forward and die."

— Neil Hauer (@NeilPHauer) May 30, 2022

Russian soldiers are ready to kill their generals. In the Donetsk region, Russian contractors nearly shot General Valery Solodchuk and his bodyguards, who had arrived to quell the mutiny and force the "refusniks" to continue fighting. https://t.co/AK8ElDBqdA https://t.co/R8s6lYsuzT pic.twitter.com/90OAHsekE2

— Dmitri (@mdmitri91) May 30, 2022

Kad pročitam ovakve stvari, ili izvještaje o Rusima iz kojekakvih sirotinjskih pripizdina koji se u vojsku prijavljuju ne bi li zaradili nešto rubalja za obitelji, padne mi na pamet ona Lenjinova(?) 'bajonet puška je oružje s radnikom na obje strane'.

Guardian

Russia will stop supplying gas to the Netherlands as of tomorrow after the government-backed trader GasTerra refused to pay supplier Gazprom in roubles. About 44% of Dutch energy usage is based on gas, but only about 15% of Dutch gas comes from Russia, according to government figures.

The battle for Donbas has seen Russia switch to artillery barrages that last day and night. Ukraine's National Guard have endured much of it and have shared their footage with the BBC. The video below is what is left of Rubizhne https://t.co/JShPwrtg6E pic.twitter.com/dvquyECfSn

— Quentin Sommerville (@sommervilletv) May 30, 2022

Lavrov (BBC)

Upitan o ljudskim žrtavama rata u Ukrajini usled razornih artiljerijskih i raketnih napada na neka urbana područja, ministar spoljnih poslova tvrdi da ruski vojnici imaju „strogo naređenje da izbegavaju napade i udare na civilnu infrastrukturu".

E dobro je što paze da ne pogode civile.

Julian Röpcke
@JulianRoepcke
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#Breaking #NewsMap 
More and more indication, Ukrainian forces surrendered #Severodonetsk to Russian invasion forces without a fight.
The center is under Russian control and there is - again - no fighting visible or audible.


Toshkivka also fully fell to the invasion army, meaning, they are advancing on the Western shore of the Siverski Donets towards #Lyssytchansk.

Vilmos Tehenészfiú wrote:E dobro je što paze da ne pogode civile.

Sta bi bilo da ne paze.

Janko Suvar wrote:Julian Röpcke
@JulianRoepcke
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26m
#Breaking #NewsMap 
More and more indication, Ukrainian forces surrendered #Severodonetsk to Russian invasion forces without a fight.
The center is under Russian control and there is - again - no fighting visible or audible.


Toshkivka also fully fell to the invasion army, meaning, they are advancing on the Western shore of the Siverski Donets towards #Lyssytchansk.

Lakse je braniti Lisičansk, ima reka okolo.

Mór Thököly wrote:

Vilmos Tehenészfiú wrote:E dobro je što paze da ne pogode civile.

Sta bi bilo da ne paze.

Raspale svom silom iz uragana, smerca, haubica. Stotine projektila padaju i razvaljuju sve pred sobom.

- Pauza! Jel vidite neke civile?
- Ne, druz...gospodine kapetane! Nema nicega.
- Dobro, nastavite. Mile Mihail, javi komandi da strogo pazimo na civile.

pa to se ocigledno i desava. doduse, nisu rekli da paze na civile, nego na "infrastrukturu".

Mór Thököly wrote:

Vilmos Tehenészfiú wrote:E dobro je što paze da ne pogode civile.

Sta bi bilo da ne paze.

RTS

To je neuporedivo

NYT

BRUSSELS — The European Union on Monday agreed to ban most imports of Russian oil, the harshest economic penalty yet imposed on Russia for its invasion of Ukraine, and potentially the biggest sacrifice by Europe, itself.

The deal is the latest and most far-reaching demonstration that over more than three months of war, in reaction to mounting Russian aggression and atrocities, European leaders have grown willing to take steps they considered too extreme when the invasion began. They have already barred imports of Russian natural gas, cut off Russian banks from global financial networks, frozen Russian assets and sent advanced weaponry to Ukraine.

After weeks of intense wrangling, E.U. leaders meeting in Brussels endorsed an embargo on Russian oil delivered by tankers, the primary method, with commitments to reduce imports by pipeline, according to a draft agreement seen by The New York Times. The deal was announced in a late-night tweet by Charles Michel, president of the European Council, though many details remain to be hashed out.

The endorsement came as a multipronged Kremlin assault closed in on the easternmost Ukrainian-controlled city, Sievierodonetsk. Russian forces continued their pattern of bombarding cities and towns, including civilian areas, reducing them to depopulated wastelands before attempting to seize control.

...
With the war driving up prices, the European Union countries alone have been paying $23 billion a month for Russian oil.

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The limited embargo that European leaders endorsed was tailored to win Mr. Orban’s support. Prohibiting Russian oil deliveries aboard tankers would eliminate two-thirds of E.U. imports, while having no effect on Hungary, a landlocked nation. Arriving at the E.U. summit meeting on Monday, Mr. Orban said of the pipeline exemption, “It’s a good approach.”

Slovakia, the Czech Republic and Germany, which also receive Russian oil by pipeline, were expected to commit to weaning themselves from that source; Hungary is not expected to give any such assurance.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/05/30/world/russia-ukraine-war?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20220530&instance_id=0&nl=breaking-news&ref=headline&regi_id=68640735&segment_id=93761&user_id=73a0899eb7f6ff553c40e66f414dda52

a?

'They have already barred imports of Russian natural gas'

Neam pojma sta su tacno mislili pod tim

U svakom slucaju, ovo je najvaznija mera koju su doneli od pocetka rata. To je na godisnjem nivou oko 180bn dolara. To je vrlo ozbiljan novac.

Samo sto cemo tek videti kad ce poceti da se primenjuje.

This sanctions package includes other hard-hitting measures:

de-Swifting the largest Russian bank Sberbank,

banning 3 more Russian state-owned broadcasters,

and sanctioning individuals responsible for war crimes in #Ukraine#EUCO

— Charles Michel (@eucopresident) May 30, 2022

Azov Battalion drops neo-Nazi symbol exploited by Russian propagandists
Tom Ball
Monday May 30 2022, 2.30pm BST, The Times

The Azov Battalion has removed a neo-Nazi symbol from its insignia that has helped perpetuate Russian propaganda about Ukraine being in the grip of far-right nationalism.

At the unveiling of a new special forces unit in Kharkiv, patches handed to soldiers did not feature the wolfsangel, a medieval German symbol that was adopted by the Nazis and which has been used by the battalion since 2014.

Instead, they featured a golden trident, the Ukrainian national symbol worn by other regiments.

“On the same principles and ideological basis as the legendary Azov regiment, we form new divisions. Every day they become more numerous and professional,” Maksym Zhorin, an Azov commander, said at the ceremony on Sunday.

eto, denacifikacija radi.....

Россия недополучит около $22 млрд нефтяных доходов из-за нефтяного эмбарго Евросоюза, подсчитало агентство Bloomberg. Однако $10 млрд ежегодных поступлений Россия сможет сохранить за счет поступлений от поставок в Венгрию, Словакию и Чехию по нефтепроводу «Дружба».

Как утверждает Bloomberg, прекращение поставок по трубопроводу через северную ветку нефтепровода «Дружба» в Польшу и Германию сократит доходы России на $12 млрд. От запрета на экспорт нефти в Европу морским путем Россия потеряет около $10 млрд в год. Из-за продажи нефти в Азии с большим дисконтом Россия может понести дополнительные убытки.

Blumbergova računica kaže da će Rusija imati 22 milijarde dolara manjih prihoda od prodaje nafte i prerađevina u EU ove godine, a deo gubitka će se nadoknaditi povećanim izvozom u Aziju (pre svega u Indiju i Kinu).

exploited by Russian propagandists

Dobro je da ga ukrajinski nacisti nisu koristili u propagandne svrhe. Danas evo mozemo priznati da su to nacisticki simboli, ali pod uslovom da dodamo da su surovo iskoriscavani od strane nacista Rusa.

Inace, za sve one koji se pitaju kako to da Rusi nisu naisli na dobrodoslicu lokalaca...

special forces unit in Kharkiv

“On the same principles and ideological basis as the legendary Azov regiment, we form new divisions.“

...eto zasto.

A eto i ko i koga vezuje za bandere u slavu...Bandere.

Del Cap wrote:

Россия недополучит около $22 млрд нефтяных доходов из-за нефтяного эмбарго Евросоюза, подсчитало агентство Bloomberg. Однако $10 млрд ежегодных поступлений Россия сможет сохранить за счет поступлений от поставок в Венгрию, Словакию и Чехию по нефтепроводу «Дружба».

Как утверждает Bloomberg, прекращение поставок по трубопроводу через северную ветку нефтепровода «Дружба» в Польшу и Германию сократит доходы России на $12 млрд. От запрета на экспорт нефти в Европу морским путем Россия потеряет около $10 млрд в год. Из-за продажи нефти в Азии с большим дисконтом Россия может понести дополнительные убытки.

Blumbergova računica kaže da će Rusija imati 22 milijarde dolara manjih prihoda od prodaje nafte i prerađevina u EU ove godine, a deo gubitka će se nadoknaditi povećanim izvozom u Aziju (pre svega u Indiju i Kinu).

Ah, lepote zapadne terminologije. Manji prihodi ili gubici? Posto to nije isto. Nije kao da ce Rusija nesto da izgubi ako proda na drugoj strani. Inace, prihodi od nafte su im uvecani za 45% ove godine, tako da tesko da imaju ikakve "gubitke". Dugorocno ce i to uslediti, ali kombinacija novih trzista i vecih cena nafte sasvim sigurno doprinosi da se "gubici" ne osete. Za sada.

Del Cap wrote:

Россия недополучит около $22 млрд нефтяных доходов из-за нефтяного эмбарго Евросоюза, подсчитало агентство Bloomberg. Однако $10 млрд ежегодных поступлений Россия сможет сохранить за счет поступлений от поставок в Венгрию, Словакию и Чехию по нефтепроводу «Дружба».

Как утверждает Bloomberg, прекращение поставок по трубопроводу через северную ветку нефтепровода «Дружба» в Польшу и Германию сократит доходы России на $12 млрд. От запрета на экспорт нефти в Европу морским путем Россия потеряет около $10 млрд в год. Из-за продажи нефти в Азии с большим дисконтом Россия может понести дополнительные убытки.

Blumbergova računica kaže da će Rusija imati 22 milijarde dolara manjih prihoda od prodaje nafte i prerađevina u EU ove godine, a deo gubitka će se nadoknaditi povećanim izvozom u Aziju (pre svega u Indiju i Kinu).

Ne, nego će povećati gubitke. Prevod zadnje rečenice na engleski:

Due to the sale of oil in Asia at a large discount, Russia may incur additional losses.

Ove 22 milijarde su izgleda gubici zato što je lakše transportovati naftu u EU nego na Daleki istok. Dodatni gubici se stvaraju davanjem popusta Kini i Indiji da u većoj meri pređu na rusku naftu.

Doduše, veliko je pitanje kako se računaju gubici - u odnosu na tržišnu cenu prodaja sa osetnim popustom jeste gubitak, a u odnosu na predratnu cenu nije, već je dobitak.