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    Vilmos Tehenészfiú

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    Post by Vilmos Tehenészfiú Tue May 24, 2022 8:16 pm

    Notxor wrote:Ma to dobri Vilmos odgovara mimom na mim umesto da pogleda kako mu plaža izgleda.

    Najljepše u svijet.  Rat u Ukrajini - Page 11 3826186726

    Ali nisu mogli jednog da nadju ko nema tu dole stan ili kuću.  Rat u Ukrajini - Page 11 286371741


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    "Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."

    “Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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    Post by Sotir Tue May 24, 2022 11:14 pm

    Vilmos Tehenészfiú wrote:
    Sotir wrote:
    Их 10 пута. 
    Страдало је 2.5 пута мање. 
    Pa zar je manja sramota ako je poginulo 4x manje nego sto sam rekao? Lera smo obesili za manje, zasto saveznicki general nije omastio konopac?
    Није погинуло 10х више, него 2.5 пута мање. То је разлика х25, а не 4х.
    У немачком бомбардовању је погинуло најмање две хиљаде, вероватније око 2300.
    У Ускршњем бомбардовању је погинуло око 800 људи у Београду, и још стотињак у Земуну.
    То би требало да објасни математику.

    Правно, Немци су напали без објаве рата град који је проглашен отвореним, и осим војних, гађали су насумице и цивилне циљеве. Довољно да се омасти конопац. 
    Американци су гађали војне циљеве, од којих су неки добијени од министра војног ДМ преко Владе у Лондону. 
    Да ли је довољно да се види разлика?
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    Post by Filipenko Wed May 25, 2022 12:51 am

    Aman, vidis li da koriste alegoriju na situaciju u Ukrajini i "izgovore druge strane"? Rat u Ukrajini - Page 11 1233199462


    Ljudi ne shvataju kako se moze biti za Ruse i protiv Turaka. Da ih Karadjordje vidi... Rat u Ukrajini - Page 11 2846171500
    Del Cap

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    Post by Del Cap Wed May 25, 2022 1:57 pm

    Путин подписал указ, который дает право упрощенного получения российского гражданства не только жителям ДНР и ЛНР, но и жителям освобожденных территорий Херсонской и Запорожской областей.
    В первой половине мая был также упрощен процесс получения российского паспорта для жителей ДНР и ЛНР.
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    Post by Filipenko Wed May 25, 2022 2:05 pm

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    Post by Del Cap Wed May 25, 2022 2:08 pm

    Polish president accuses Germany of breaking promises on tanks for Ukraine

    Andrzej Duda says Berlin failed to deliver modern Leopard tanks to Warsaw in exchange for Polish tanks sent to Ukraine.

    BY HANS VON DER BURCHARD
    May 24, 2022 10:09 pm

    Polish President Andrzej Duda on Tuesday accused the German government of breaking its word on an agreement to supply Warsaw with new tanks as compensation for Polish deliveries of Soviet-era tanks to Ukraine.

    German Chancellor Olaf Scholz last month introduced the so-called “Ringtausch,” a swap scheme under which eastern NATO partners would supply the Ukrainian army with Soviet-era tanks like the T-72 in exchange for modern western tanks from German manufacturers, such as the Leopard. Scholz and German officials have argued that this model is advantageous for Ukraine because it gets the same Soviet-era tanks that its soldiers and mechanics are already familiar with, while eastern NATO countries receive an upgrade.

    Duda argued in an interview with German news outlet Welt that Berlin was not delivering on its commitment to deliver new tanks to replace the exported vehicles. “They have not fulfilled this promise. And frankly, we are very disappointed about this,” the Polish president said on the sidelines of the World Economic Forum in Davos, according to a translation provided by Welt.

    “We have provided Ukraine with a large number of tanks … because we believe it is our responsibility as a neighbor,” Duda said, referring to reports that Warsaw handed at least 240 Soviet-era tanks to the Ukrainian military. “By doing so, we depleted our own military potential and stockpiles,” he argued.

    The Polish president added that “a large part of our tank arsenal in the Polish armed forces are German Leopard tanks,” adding that Berlin had made a “promise” to deliver such tanks to Poland.

    A German defense ministry spokesperson said Monday that Berlin was “engaged in a constructive exchange with our Polish allies and to see how we can reconcile their wishes and our possibilities,” but admitted: “There is still a bit of work ahead of us.”

    The spokesperson added that Warsaw had informed Berlin on April 26 about its decision to transfer Soviet-style tanks to Ukraine. The spokesperson added that German Defense Minister Christine Lambrecht had “very much welcomed this in a bilateral meeting and offered to enter into an exchange with Poland on whether and how Germany can help fill the gaps that arise.”

    Also on Monday, the same spokesperson said that Berlin was already successfully implementing the “Ringtausch” with the Czech Republic and would deliver 14 Leopard 2A4 main battle tanks and one Leopard tank recovery vehicle to Prague under the swap scheme.

    One German official suggested that the row with Warsaw might be linked to the fact that Poland wants better tanks from Germany: While the Leopard 2A4 that the Czech Republic is receiving was built in the late 1980s and has partly been upgraded since, Poland has expressed interest in more modern versions of the tank such as the Leopard 2A6, the official said.

    In another broadside from Warsaw against Berlin on Tuesday, Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki criticized Chancellor Scholz for his refusal to travel to Kyiv. “I think he should do that,” Morawiecki told Welt.

    He added: “There is nothing better than visiting the capital of the fighting nation to realize the seriousness of the situation, to get a sense of the importance of all that is happening there.”

    Scholz has refused to travel to the Ukrainian capital for the moment, arguing that he had already gone there 10 days before the Russian invasion started, and would not go again “for a quick in and out with a photoshoot.”

    “If [I go to Kyiv], then it’s always about very specific things. And they have to be prepared,” Scholz told German television RTL last week.
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    Post by Janko Suvar Wed May 25, 2022 4:27 pm

    Russia offers unblocking Ukrainian ports in exchange for lifting Western sanctions.

    Russian Deputy FM Andrey Rudenko said Moscow wants the removal of sanctions on Russian exports and financial transactions in exchange for a corridor for Ukraine to be able to export grains.


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    Vilmos Tehenészfiú

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    Post by Vilmos Tehenészfiú Wed May 25, 2022 4:36 pm

    Mislim da će to Ukrajina sama da odblokira.


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    "Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."

    “Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
    Del Cap

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    Post by Del Cap Wed May 25, 2022 5:10 pm

    trejler za (pro)ruski film o mariupolju

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    Post by rumbeando Wed May 25, 2022 5:50 pm





    Običan T-62 proizvodio se do 1975, ali u jednom tvitu piše da je u pitanju T-62M, koji je po ruskoj vikipediji osetno unapređena verzija iz sredine osamdesetih.
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    Post by disident Wed May 25, 2022 6:06 pm

    rumbeando wrote:[size=34][/size]

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    Običan T-62 proizvodio se do 1975, ali u jednom tvitu piše da je u pitanju T-62M, koji je po ruskoj vikipediji osetno unapređena verzija iz sredine osamdesetih.
    Ruske serije i verzije tenkova zahtevaju ozbiljno poznavanje, viki tu slabo pomaze.


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    Što se ostaloga tiče, smatram da Zapad treba razoriti
    Jedini proleter Burundija
    Pristalica krvne osvete
    Del Cap

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    Post by Del Cap Wed May 25, 2022 8:11 pm

    Del Cap wrote:
    Mór Thököly wrote:Na stranu Ukrajina, meni je trenutno nezamislivo da Rusija ovo prihvati

    gi joe bi morao da se zapišava na zidove crkve vasilija blaženog da bi ekipa preko puta prihvatila tako nešto.

    qed

    Marija Zaharova, portparolka ruskog ministarstva spoljnih poslova, rekla je da je italijanski mirovni plan za Ukrajinu "bajka", preneo je Rojters.

    Prošle nedelje, italijanski ministar spoljnih poslova Luiđi Di Majo izneo je plan za mir u Ukrajini, dodajući da je o tome razgovarao sa generalnim sekretarom UN Antoniom Guterešom tokom posete Njujorku.
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    Post by kondo Wed May 25, 2022 9:13 pm

    Vilmos Tehenészfiú wrote:Mislim da će to Ukrajina sama da odblokira.


    možda hoće a možda i neće. 

    a i kad ih možda odblokira onda ti hrani svoju decu žitom odatle.


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    Vilmos Tehenészfiú

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    Post by Vilmos Tehenészfiú Wed May 25, 2022 9:35 pm

    Nece da valja to ukrajinsko zito? Na sta ciljas?


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    "Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."

    “Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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    Post by kondo Wed May 25, 2022 9:38 pm

    Pa ne znam, da su ratovali konfetama onda možda i da budem opušten, ovako me relaksira dijagnoza koju imam za koju je brašno kontraindikovano.

    Stvarno bi jeo nešto iz Marijupolja?


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    Post by Notxor Wed May 25, 2022 9:42 pm

    Žito u skladištima je sklono buđanju i kvarenju.
    Crnogorci su ovih dana prodali Albancima francusko žito koje su kupili dok je korona harala i koje je malo buđalo (malo je komplikovano - znam).
    Naravno da su Gorci po kokainskoj navici krajcovali žito za 15 hiljada evra, ali je vlada CG vratila te pare.
    E sad, ko zna ko će da jede burek od tog brašna od tog žita? Ja ne bih, ali ko mene pita.


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    Post by kondo Wed May 25, 2022 9:48 pm

    Dobro nebitno, ukrajinsko žito će ionako da jedu bebe iz Burundija i Iđpta, Boris Đonson će da bude pobednik, Mo Sala će da nosi džekove gladnima a Vilmoš kauboj će biti srećan jer su deca pobedila.


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    Post by Vilmos Tehenészfiú Wed May 25, 2022 9:56 pm

    Ih bre nije prvi brod izašao iz luke a već se sekiraš dal žito valja i ko će to da kupi.


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    "Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."

    “Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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    Post by kondo Wed May 25, 2022 10:33 pm

    bole me rac, ja brasno ni budjavo srbsko ne kupujem kamoli to ozraceno djubre borisa djonsona


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    Post by Sotir Wed May 25, 2022 10:35 pm

    Мени је она слика Т-62 у Украјини била за усмеравање кад сам је видео.
    Зато што сам увидео да понављају стратегију из Сирије - и тамо су слали ове канте резервиста да буду подршка пешадији. А руска стратегија у Сирији је један врло спор метод који може да траје годинама.
    Може да се ово одужи као јебена корона.
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    Post by kondo Wed May 25, 2022 10:37 pm

    to se doima kao odlična strategija, podeliće evropu

    nemcima je pun kurac svega evo odjebavaju poljsko smeće onoliko

    polaken


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    Post by boomer crook Wed May 25, 2022 11:45 pm

    nacelno zanimljiva analiza o stranim borcima sa krajnje desnice u ukrajini (na obe strane)

    https://www.rosalux.de/en/news/id/46588/how-foreign-far-right-volunteers-are-arriving-to-fight-in-ukraine


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    Post by kondo Wed May 25, 2022 11:52 pm

    Odlično.

    Sere mi se od Zelenih (ne Zelenskog nego nemačkih Zelenih).

    Svako ko prska po njima je dobrodošao a Die Linke su strava.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Thu May 26, 2022 12:20 am

    Prilično dobar Slavoj

    https://pescanik.net/heroji-apokalipse/
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