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Španjolski El Pais o mogućoj mornaričkoj operaciji EU:
And on the table is even the possibility of launching a naval mission to escort the passage of freighters from Ukraine through a Black Sea infested with mines and guarded by Russian ships and submarines.
Brussels is now considering, according to community sources, the launch of a naval mission derived from the common security and defense policy to ensure that the grain leaves directly from the Ukrainian city of Odessa, the port on the Black Sea that channeled most of the export until the beginning of the war launched by Russian President Vladimir Putin. The naval operation to remove the Ukrainian grain would pose an extreme risk of possible military friction or clash with the Russian Navy. But Brussels watches with almost the same dread the outbreak of a humanitarian crisis in countries whose most basic food needs depend on Ukrainian exports.The EU currently has 18 operational missions of this type around the world, some of them naval, such as the one that monitors compliance with the arms embargo on Libya in the Mediterranean or the one that combats piracy in the Indian Ocean against the Somali coast. But all the sources consulted acknowledge that an operation in the Black Sea poses an unprecedented risk for European forces.
The first difficulty, of a diplomatic nature, would be to clear the passage of European ships to the port of Odessa. Since 1936, the entry into the Black Sea of warships from non-riparian countries has been regulated and limited by the Montreux Convention. This international agreement gives the key to the straits of entry to the Government of Turkey. The government of the Turkish president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, has supported the UN resolutions that demand that Moscow end the aggression against Ukraine. But Turkey is the only NATO country that has distanced itself from the sanctions imposed on the Kremlin by the EU and the US. And it has not hesitated to set conditions to admit the entry of Finland and Sweden into the Atlantic Alliance, two historically neutral countries. alarmed by the return of war to the European continent. Even so, "Turkey would give permission for the passage of European ships," says a high-ranking community source. The reason for optimism is based on the fact that it would not be an aggressive operation but one of an eminently humanitarian nature because the feeding of millions of people may depend on its success.
And on the table is even the possibility of launching a naval mission to escort the passage of freighters from Ukraine through a Black Sea infested with mines and guarded by Russian ships and submarines.
Brussels is now considering, according to community sources, the launch of a naval mission derived from the common security and defense policy to ensure that the grain leaves directly from the Ukrainian city of Odessa, the port on the Black Sea that channeled most of the export until the beginning of the war launched by Russian President Vladimir Putin. The naval operation to remove the Ukrainian grain would pose an extreme risk of possible military friction or clash with the Russian Navy. But Brussels watches with almost the same dread the outbreak of a humanitarian crisis in countries whose most basic food needs depend on Ukrainian exports.The EU currently has 18 operational missions of this type around the world, some of them naval, such as the one that monitors compliance with the arms embargo on Libya in the Mediterranean or the one that combats piracy in the Indian Ocean against the Somali coast. But all the sources consulted acknowledge that an operation in the Black Sea poses an unprecedented risk for European forces.
The first difficulty, of a diplomatic nature, would be to clear the passage of European ships to the port of Odessa. Since 1936, the entry into the Black Sea of warships from non-riparian countries has been regulated and limited by the Montreux Convention. This international agreement gives the key to the straits of entry to the Government of Turkey. The government of the Turkish president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, has supported the UN resolutions that demand that Moscow end the aggression against Ukraine. But Turkey is the only NATO country that has distanced itself from the sanctions imposed on the Kremlin by the EU and the US. And it has not hesitated to set conditions to admit the entry of Finland and Sweden into the Atlantic Alliance, two historically neutral countries. alarmed by the return of war to the European continent. Even so, "Turkey would give permission for the passage of European ships," says a high-ranking community source. The reason for optimism is based on the fact that it would not be an aggressive operation but one of an eminently humanitarian nature because the feeding of millions of people may depend on its success.
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E, dajte to amerikancima molim vas. Ako neki mornar dobije zanokticu tokom operacije EU ce ukinuti minimum 3 od 5 paketa sankcija.
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A group of Communist Party deputies of the Primorskiy Krai (Vladivostok) legislative assembly appealed to pres. Putin to immediately stop the war during another session. They were interrupted and demanded to stay quiet. https://t.co/gDC8c0o0HX pic.twitter.com/76SaHyfLCS
— Dmitri(@mdmitri91) May 27, 2022
"The region's governor Oleg Kozhemyako, ordered Vasyukevich & Shulga to be removed from the premises.
— Paul Begley (@yelgeb) May 28, 2022
'The action defames the Russian Army & our defenders who are fighting against Nazism. You are a traitor,' Kozhemyako said, addressing Vasyukevich"@RFERLhttps://t.co/Nq6Be5w8Vw
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Mór Thököly wrote:E, dajte to amerikancima molim vas. Ako neki mornar dobije zanokticu tokom operacije EU ce ukinuti minimum 3 od 5 paketa sankcija.
Nevjerojatno mi zvuči sama ideja, ako je EU=Njemačka ne liči mi baš da će oni ovo potpisat.
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Realno je ideja ekstremna, ishitrena i mogla bi da naljuti g. Putina. Naravno da neće biti sprovedena.
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Cousin Billy wrote: i mogla bi da naljuti g. Putina..
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zar ova ideja ne bi bila jedan od puteva za đentlmensko rešenje u vidu popuštanja sankcija za žito
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Дакле, волео бих да се ЈСД Партизан угаси, али не и да сви (или било који) гробар умре.
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Gde vidis da se nudi popustanje sankcija?
I zasto bi popustali kada znaju da ce g. Putin dati kad zatreba, da bi glumio velikodusnost pred domacom publikom. Dotle ce ga na zapadu zapisavati zbog toga, tvrdeci da je slab i da je zato popustio i dozvolio izvoz i prihodovanje neprijatelju.
I zasto bi popustali kada znaju da ce g. Putin dati kad zatreba, da bi glumio velikodusnost pred domacom publikom. Dotle ce ga na zapadu zapisavati zbog toga, tvrdeci da je slab i da je zato popustio i dozvolio izvoz i prihodovanje neprijatelju.
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Žižek opet dobar 
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vodite racuna o ovome: dok se sve vrti oko nekog donbasa euro-trash ce krsiti ruke i vapiti za peace in our time. no, kako se linija bude pomerala ka zapadu bice dosta onih koji ce se setiti da su, sto bi reko de gol, ruski tenkovi bili u nemackoj.
mislim right now niko ne moze da zamisli sta je gdin putinov krajnji cilj.
mislim right now niko ne moze da zamisli sta je gdin putinov krajnji cilj.
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And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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bilo kako bilo (BKB), ni bajdenov.
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Дакле, волео бих да се ЈСД Партизан угаси, али не и да сви (или било који) гробар умре.
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boomer crook wrote:vodite racuna o ovome: dok se sve vrti oko nekog donbasa euro-trash ce krsiti ruke i vapiti za peace in our time. no, kako se linija bude pomerala ka zapadu bice dosta onih koji ce se setiti da su, sto bi reko de gol, ruski tenkovi bili u nemackoj.
mislim right now niko ne moze da zamisli sta je gdin putinov krajnji cilj.
Dobro, pa to je ono sto pisah - da li je g.Putinov minimum i zapadni maksimum prazan skup? Ne znamo.
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Da, dobar skroz, stavio ga je bio Fikret prije par dana. Sjetim se kako ga (Žižeka) je Chomsky nazivao šarlatanom, a sad samo što (Chomsky) nije u zagrljaju sa KissingeromUncle Baby Billy wrote:Žižek opet dobar
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Ako može ruski gas preko Ukrajine, može i ukrajinsko žito preko ruskih luka.
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Ali Kissinger, jebote, lik koji je 2017 rekao da mozda nije dobro bas unistiti fookin' ISIS! I neko njega vise nesto pita posle toga...
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Ne samo da ga se pita, nego ga njemački mediji srčano prenoseMór Thököly wrote:Ali Kissinger, jebote, lik koji je 2017 rekao da mozda nije dobro bas unistiti fookin' ISIS! I neko njega vise nesto pita posle toga...
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Vetim pre neki dan dan domace kanale i na svim, od RTSa do Hepija,hvale mudrog Kisindzera.
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"Oni kroz mene gledaju u vas! Oni kroz njega gledaju u vas! Oni kroz vas gledaju u mene... i u sve nas."
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A glede Evrope, nije ovde problem ni samo Putin problem je Orban, odnosno putini u EU. Politika appeasmenta ne kapira da ce im oni doci glave, ako se ne postave jasno oko ovoga. Mir sa Putinom je njihova pobeda.
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Znas kako, evo recimo pristupanje Finske i Svedske Natou svi gledaju samo u relaciji sa Rusijom. Postoji i jedna druga relacija - ona sa EU.
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Iz 2018 su podaci, ne znam koliko se mijenjalo, al vidi se da se Mađarskoj itekako isplati EU.
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Emmanuel Macron and Olaf Scholz held a three-way telephone conversation with the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, on Saturday, with the French and German leaders urging Putin to hold “direct serious negotiations” with his Ukrainian counterpart Volodymyr Zelenskiy.
The call came as Russia’s assault on Ukraine’s Donbas region continues to grind on. During the 80-minute conversation, the two leaders “insisted on an immediate ceasefire and a withdrawal of Russian troops”, according to a readout from Scholz’s office.
Putin is unlikely to heed such calls. Instead, he warned Macron and Scholz that western weapons deliveries to Ukraine were “dangerous” and risked “further destabilisation of the situation”, according to a Kremlin readout.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/28/russia-takes-control-lyman-ukraine-missiles-donbas-region
Koliko još treba da ih ponižava?
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Nista, iskljuciti crvendace i nazvati to "solidarisanjem sa novcodavcima", jer nikad dovoljno sazaljenja za bogate!
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Mór Thököly wrote:
Emmanuel Macron and Olaf Scholz held a three-way telephone conversation with the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, on Saturday, with the French and German leaders urging Putin to hold “direct serious negotiations” with his Ukrainian counterpart Volodymyr Zelenskiy.
The call came as Russia’s assault on Ukraine’s Donbas region continues to grind on. During the 80-minute conversation, the two leaders “insisted on an immediate ceasefire and a withdrawal of Russian troops”, according to a readout from Scholz’s office.
Putin is unlikely to heed such calls. Instead, he warned Macron and Scholz that western weapons deliveries to Ukraine were “dangerous” and risked “further destabilisation of the situation”, according to a Kremlin readout.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/28/russia-takes-control-lyman-ukraine-missiles-donbas-region
Koliko još treba da ih ponižava?
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On da ih ponizava tako sto ce da slusa njih gde treba da otperja njegova vojska?
Mene cudi da uopste razgovara sa dripcima koji ga nazivaju ludakom, diktatorom, pricaju javno da ne sme da pobedi itd.
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Jako ne kužim ovu gimnastiku"Predsjednik Putin je Macronu i Scholzu kazao da je spreman omogućiti nastavak isporuke žitarica iz crnomorskih luka", objavljeno je iz Scholzova ureda.
Obećao je i da "Rusija neće iskoristiti uklanjanje minskog pojasa postavljenog zbog zaštite ukrajinskih luka, što će omogućiti izvoz žitarica brodovima, da bi izvela vojne napade", objavio je Scholzov ured, dodajući da su se trojica čelnika složila kako bi "središnju ulogu” u jamčenju sigurnosti prijevoza žitarica trebali odigrati Ujedinjeni narodi.
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