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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon May 23, 2022 5:53 pm

    Ma boleština
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    Post by Filipenko Mon May 23, 2022 7:13 pm

    Tako ce sutra Ljubincina™ cerka kao dopisnik iz Pariza da nam kenja iz nekog Sputnjika da trebamo da budemo srecni sto nismo proveli decenije po izglednelim i rasno unakazenim francuskim predgradjima.
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    Post by kondo Mon May 23, 2022 9:07 pm

    Jbga ta rasno unakažena predgrađa i kvartovi Pariza su mnogo bolji od ovih drugih .. Šato Ruž >>>>> Le Mare


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    Post by Del Cap Mon May 23, 2022 9:23 pm

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-23/europe-s-plan-to-replace-russian-gas-stumbles-on-lng-bottlenecks?srnd=premium-europe

    Europe’s Plan to Replace Russian Gas Stumbles on LNG Bottlenecks
    Record LNG shipments face constraints, regional price gaps
    Competition for non-Russian gas to keep costs high for years

    By Anna Shiryaevskaya
    May 23, 2022, 2:29 PM GMT+2


    Europe’s ambitious plan to walk away from Russian natural gas and replace a chunk of it with tanker-borne imports faces a major obstacle: getting it to where it’s needed most without huge price discrepancies.

    Even as record amounts of liquefied natural gas land on Europe’s shores, the lack of interconnectors from key import terminals in the west means gas can’t easily reach countries in the east that are more reliant on pipeline supplies from Russia. 

    As a result, short-term gas prices in Britain, France and Spain have tumbled to as little as a third of those in markets including the Netherlands and Germany, according to Citigroup Inc. Such discrepancies, particularly to the Dutch trading hub where Europe’s benchmark rates are set, are making it harder to trade the fuel and likely to keep prices volatile until supply choke points are resolved.

    Diverging Prices

    Front-month UK, Dutch and Spanish gas prices are diverging 

    “There is infrastructure missing for the west-to-east flows,” said Marco Saalfrank, head of continental Europe merchant trading at Axpo Solutions AG in Baden, Switzerland. “So LNG, in short, is not the only solution to replace Russian gas because of the bottlenecks.”

    The price divergence and infrastructure constraints highlight that the European Union’s target to replace as much as third of Russian gas with LNG in the short term won’t be easy. 

    Some solutions are emerging to connect LNG tankers with local gas networks. 

    At least eight ship-borne LNG terminals known as floating storage and regasification units, or FSRUs, have been announced over the past three months from the Netherlands to Germany and Estonia. But while some can be installed as soon as next winter, they’re only good when connected to existing grids and backed up by agreements for round-the-clock supply.

    “FSRUs are a quick way if there is relevant grid connection, but still there are bottlenecks where they can be placed,” said Gyorgy Vargha, chief executive officer of MET International AG, an energy trading firm based in Zug, Switzerland. “FSRUs alone won’t necessarily solve the problem. To guarantee security of supply you need long-term LNG contracts to ensure baseload supplies.”

    Still, the question is how to supply nations such as Hungary and Bulgaria, where there’s no access for large LNG vessels. One option is to adapt existing pipeline infrastructure.

    For its part, Europe is looking into how to reverse flows on the Trans-Adriatic Pipeline, or TAP, so that gas can travel from Italy to Greece, Axpo’s Saalfrank said. TAP currently brings gas east to west from Azerbaijan through southeastern Europe and into Italy, and capacity in the other direction would help diversify supplies in Europe.

    Even if Europe bets big on LNG, the super-chilled fuel has to come from somewhere. New production plants won’t start delivering more supplies before about 2025. Competition for available fuel will remain tight in the next three years, keeping prices high, Axpo said. 

    “Using all LNG capacity to the max will put a huge strain on the LNG supply,” MET’s Vargha said. “There isn’t enough LNG capacity in the world to avoid demand destruction in a no-Russian-gas scenario.”
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    Post by kondo Mon May 23, 2022 9:29 pm

    Koje gluposti

    Za ovo ne treba ni Filipenko, stvarno


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon May 23, 2022 9:34 pm

    Naravno da ce morati nova infrastruktura
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    Post by kondo Mon May 23, 2022 9:39 pm

    Ma sigurno, potrčaće


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon May 23, 2022 9:44 pm

    Pa nema druge
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    Post by Filipenko Mon May 23, 2022 10:23 pm

    A lepo je Staljin mogao sve Nemce da preseli u Sibir, ne bi im falilo gasa.
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    Post by Sotir Mon May 23, 2022 10:25 pm

    Хоће ли неко да се сети објасни људима колико ће да кошта снабдевање ЛНГ гасом, колико ће да кошта и кад ће да достигне потребан ниво.
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    Post by kondo Mon May 23, 2022 10:59 pm

    Deluje da su juče danas počeli da se prisećaju

    Vreme radi za Vučića..... zamalo.


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    Post by rumbeando Mon May 23, 2022 11:27 pm

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    Post by Zus Mon May 23, 2022 11:57 pm

    Bice da je igra oko LNG igra stolica. Kad prestane muzika niko od zemalja 3. Eveope - Skoro ceo SEV blok (mozda bez Poljske I Ceske) I balticke teritorije ostace tropa. Danas videh plan da Gr uvede preko leta I od leta restrikcije struje velikim ne esencijalnim privrednim potrošačima. Iako oni imaju plutajuci gasni terminal. Sto ce reci da svi koji su bukirali letovanja mogu da ocekuju doplatu, a oni koji nisu da ce platit vise. I to je samo slika odavde. Struja im je basnoslovno poskupela, a I nas ce to snaci uskoro (odvrtanje sijalica). Prava zabava dolazi od Oktombra. Gušićemo se naredne zime. Dok se prizna poraz. O cenama se I ne govori.
    Mislio sam ranije da Ukrajina nece pregovore jer im ameri ne daju tako I salju milijarde, ali zapravo Rusi cekaju kraj leta ocigledno spremniji. Verovatno ste ovde vec pisali o tome, al ajde da kazem koju.

    Turska mi je tu enigma. Mislim da ce prici bolje nego Evropljani. Zato se I sada pojacano  kurče po Egeju, Dardaneliju, preletima I sl.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue May 24, 2022 12:21 am

    Ma nema "priznavanja poraza".

    Mislim da vecina ljudi generalno ne razume o cemu se ovde radi.

    Evropa ce biti u totalnon buli sa energentima, Ruska privreda ce biti razjebana.
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    Post by kondo Tue May 24, 2022 12:27 am

    https://www.klix.ba/vijesti/svijet/zelenski-sarajevski-atentat-je-dokaz-da-samo-nekoliko-hitaca-moze-dovesti-do-miliona-zrtava/220523117



    Predsjednik Ukrajine Volodimir Zelenski obratio se svjetskim liderima na Svjetskom ekonomskom forumu u Davosu kazavši da je Sarajevski atentat potvrda da se sa samo nekoliko hitaca može dovesti do miliona žrtava.







    Ja ću ovog da zovem od sada onako kako ga zovu neki Rusi 


    Precednik Klovn Jevrejin Narkoman Budala


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    Post by MNE Tue May 24, 2022 12:28 am

    Mór Thököly wrote:Ma nema "priznavanja poraza".

    Mislim da vecina ljudi generalno ne razume o cemu se ovde radi.

    Evropa ce biti u totalnon buli sa energentima, Ruska privreda ce biti  razjebana.

    win win za amere i kineze
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    Post by Del Cap Tue May 24, 2022 1:03 am

    Henry Kissinger: Ukraine must give Russia territory

    Veteran US statesman Henry Kissinger has urged the West to stop trying to inflict a crushing defeat on Russian forces in Ukraine, warning that it would have disastrous consequences for the long term stability of Europe.

    The former US secretary of state and architect of the Cold War rapprochement between the US and China told a gathering in Davos that it would be fatal for the West to get swept up in the mood of the moment and forget the proper place of Russia in the European balance of power.

    Dr Kissinger said the war must not be allowed to drag on for much longer, and came close to calling on the West to bully Ukraine into accepting negotiations on terms that fall very far short of its current war aims.

    “Negotiations need to begin in the next two months before it creates upheavals and tensions that will not be easily overcome. Ideally, the dividing line should be a return to the status quo ante. Pursuing the war beyond that point would not be about the freedom of Ukraine, but a new war against Russia itself,” he said.

    He told the World Economic Forum that Russia had been an essential part of Europe for 400 years and had been the guarantor of the European balance of power structure at critical times. European leaders should not lose sight of the longer term relationship, and nor should they risk pushing Russia into a permanent alliance with China.

    “I hope the Ukrainians will match the heroism they have shown with wisdom,” he said, adding with his famous sense of realpolitik that the proper role for the country is to be a neutral buffer state rather than the frontier of Europe.

    The comments came amid growing signs that the Western coalition against Vladimir Putin is fraying badly as the food and energy crisis deepens, and that sanctions may have reached their limits.


    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/henry-kissinger-warns-against-defeat-174812366.html
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    Post by rujofil Tue May 24, 2022 1:53 am

    Mór Thököly wrote:Ma nema "priznavanja poraza".

    Mislim da vecina ljudi generalno ne razume o cemu se ovde radi.

    Evropa ce biti u totalnon buli sa energentima, Ruska privreda ce biti  razjebana.
    Evropa sa privredom a bez energenata a RU bez privrede ali sa energentima, kak apsurdna propast starog kontinenta Rat u Ukrajini - Page 9 2304934895
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue May 24, 2022 6:03 am


    Ideally, the dividing line should be a return to the status quo ante.

    Poenta je - ovo bi bio "defeat" za Rusiju. Neresiv problem.
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    Post by kondo Tue May 24, 2022 9:51 am

    nije rekao da mora nego da bi bilo idealno. sad, nije sve idealno.


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    Post by Notxor Tue May 24, 2022 11:16 am

    Nešto što izgleda kao detaljan tekst i tiče se izvoza ukrajinskog žita.

    https://www.agriculture.com/news/crops/27-million-tons-of-grain-planned-for-export-stuck-in-ukraine


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue May 24, 2022 12:09 pm

    Btw, Kisindzera ne treba pitati apsolutno ni za sta. Kao zacetnik politike otvaranja prema Kini je odgovoran za vrv najveci strateški geopolitički blunder u istoriji povijesti.
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    Post by kondo Tue May 24, 2022 12:23 pm

    pa druže rekao bih da misliš da ne treba pitati nikoga ko misli nešto drugačije od tebe.

    više me zanima da li si spreman da žrtvuješ nešto iz svog života za slobodu i slavu ukrajine, recimo ušteđevinu, životni standard, bilo šta što ti daje sigurnost i zadovoljstvo u životu. školovanje dece?

    što se mene tiče ja nisam i iskreno me boli kurac za nekoga sa nula osećaja za real politiku. s obzirom da duboko verujem da će sem engleske i istočne evrope ovo postati dominantno mišljenje u evropi u ne tako dalekoj budućnosti, ostaje da se nadam da će oni koji mogu uterati zelenskog u red, kad to već nisu rusi.


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