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    Post by Notxor Thu Mar 02, 2023 12:28 pm

    ...ali twitter aktivisti koji: slave ukrajinske heroje, viču false flag, najavljuju građanski rat u Rusiji...


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    Post by fikret selimbašić Thu Mar 02, 2023 12:44 pm

    Notxor wrote:...ali twitter aktivisti koji: slave ukrajinske heroje, viču false flag, najavljuju građanski rat u Rusiji...

    Ništa čudno, salo i sahar napad izaziva salo i sahar reakcije.


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    Post by kondo Thu Mar 02, 2023 1:28 pm

    fikret selimbašić wrote:Kakva bezvezna jutarnja priča, bolje da sam otišo do dućana na pivo sa drvokradicama ali sad je već kasno.


    Nisi uzalud trošio vreme ovde, ipak si ostavio jedan suvi kvalitet odjutros:

    Fiki wrote:Kipar je interni NATO problem.


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    Post by Notxor Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:13 pm

    Blinken je Lavrovu iznio tri točke, rekao je novinarima visoki dužnosnik State Departmenta, prenosi New York Times.

    Prva je točka da će Sjedinjene Države nastaviti podupirati Ukrajinu u njezinoj obrani od Rusije "koliko god bude potrebno", druga da bi se Rusija trebala ponovno pridružiti Novom START-u, ugovoru o kontroli nuklearnog naoružanja iz kojeg se nedavno povukla, i pridržavati se uvjeta iz tog sporazuma, a treća da bi Rusija trebala osloboditi Paula Whelana, američkog državljanina u zatvoru.

    Lavrov je rekao da na sastanku G20 neće biti zajedničke izjave zbog neslaganja oko rata u Ukrajini. Napao je zapadne zemlje zbog "provociranja sukoba i potpirivanja slanjem oružja."


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    Post by rumbeando Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:33 pm

    Link ka video klipu na zvaničnom telegramu te jedinice:
    https://t.me/russvolcorps/424
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    Post by Notxor Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:36 pm

    Definitivno nije false flag. Ti likovi su dugo u Ukrajini i do sad su uglavnom služili za PR.


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    Post by fikret selimbašić Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:39 pm

    kondo wrote:
    fikret selimbašić wrote:Kakva bezvezna jutarnja priča, bolje da sam otišo do dućana na pivo sa drvokradicama ali sad je već kasno.


    Nisi uzalud trošio vreme ovde, ipak si ostavio jedan suvi kvalitet odjutros:

    Fiki wrote:Kipar je interni NATO problem.


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    A spor oko Kipra i još nekih ostrva jeste spor dvije članice NATO pakta.


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    Post by Notxor Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:00 pm

    Realno.
    Kao što je napad ruskih nacoša na Brjansk i beloruskih partizana na aerodrom interna stvar, ili severni i južni Vijetnam i Koreja, itd.



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    Post by Notxor Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:12 pm

    In Europe, Russia’s weaponisation of its energy resources caused widespread difficulties. Faced with shortages, European countries, including the UK, raced to replace capacity, above all through imports of liquid natural gas (LNG). This caused inflation in the West, a problem that refuses to come down even as the energy markets adapt.

    There have been big winners, such as shareholders in the five oil giants – BP, Shell, Exxon, Chevron and Total Energies – who reported combined profits of $200 billion last year. The fossil fuel-producing states of OPEC also had eye-watering revenues, reaching $850 billion last year. But the price rise of LNG has meant countries such as Pakistan and Bangladesh have suffered blackouts, which in turn cut productivity. This has paved the way for social unrest and political volatility – as well as increasing a global sense of resentment towards the West.

    In its most blunt terms, the war has served as a moment of one of the greatest transfers of wealth in history, with energy-rich states harvesting giant cash bonuses that, in turn, have further accelerated the changing of the world order.

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/is-putin-winning-the-world-order-is-changing-in-his-favour/


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    Post by rumbeando Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:17 pm

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    Post by fikret selimbašić Thu Mar 02, 2023 5:09 pm

    Прес-секретар председника Русије Дмитриј Песков рекао је да не зна да ли ће дејства украјинске диверзантско-извиђачке групе (ДРГ) у Брјанској области променити статус специјалне војне операције. Његове речи цитира РИА Новости. „Не знам, не могу још да кажем“, одговорио је портпарол Кремља на питање новинара. Такође је напоменуо да је руски председник Владимир Путин обавештен о инциденту. Гувернер Брјанске области Александар Богомаз је 2. марта известио да је украјински ДРГ ушао на територију села Лубечане и пуцао на аутомобил. Према његовим речима, један мештанин је погинуо, а повређено је и десетогодишње дете. Шеф региона је прецизирао да Оружане снаге Русије предузимају мере за елиминисање диверзаната. Како преноси ТАСС, позивајући се на извор у агенцијама за провођење закона, до шест особа могу бити таоци диверзанти.

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    U stvari, ne zajebavam se. To je to.



    Može komotno i ovde:




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    Post by Filipenko Thu Mar 02, 2023 6:00 pm

    Samo da konstatujem da je Kina oslobodila Tibet, te da su Tibetanci izasli iz mracnog srednjeg veka u kome su opsluzivali kult reinkarnizujucih demona u crvenim togama, kojima su bili umno i telesno potcinjeni do ranga ropstva.
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    Post by kondo Thu Mar 02, 2023 6:16 pm

    fikret selimbašić wrote:
    kondo wrote:


    Nisi uzalud trošio vreme ovde, ipak si ostavio jedan suvi kvalitet odjutros:




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    A spor oko Kipra i još nekih ostrva jeste spor dvije članice NATO pakta.




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    Post by Del Cap Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:14 pm

    Fwiw


    Magazine: 04 March 2023
    Peter Frankopan
    Is Putin winning? The world order is changing in his favour




    ‘This is not about Ukraine at all, but the world order,’ said Sergei Lavrov, Russia’s foreign minister, a month after the invasion. ‘The unipolar world is irretrievably receding into the past … A multi-polar world is being born.’ The US is no longer the world’s policeman, in other words – a message that resonates in countries that have long been suspicious of American power. The West’s core coalition may remain solid, but it has failed to win over many of the countries that refused to pick sides. Moscow’s diplomatic mission to build ties and hone a narrative over the past decade has paid dividends.

    Look at Africa. In March last year, 25 African states out of 54 abstained or didn’t vote in a UN motion condemning the invasion, despite huge pressure from western powers. Their refusal to side clearly with Ukraine was testament to Russia’s ongoing diplomatic efforts in the developing world.

    A year ago, Naledi Pandor, South Africa’s foreign minister, urged Russia to withdraw. After Lavrov’s visit a few weeks ago, Pandor was asked if she had repeated this sentiment to her Russian counterpart. It had been ‘appropriate’ last year, she said, but to repeat it now ‘would make me appear quite simplistic and infantile’. Pandor then lauded the ‘growing economic bilateral relationship’ between Pretoria and Moscow, and the two countries marked the war’s anniversary with joint military exercises.

    Moscow presents itself as a bastion of stability in a world gone mad, even as it seeks to make the world madder

    Then there are the North African countries, which have helped Russia offset the economic effect of western sanctions. Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria and Egypt have all, in the past year, imported Russian diesel and other refined oils, as well as chemicals.

    Vladimir Putin is quite deliberately cultivating this alliance of nations who feel victims of western imperialism, and putting Russia at its head. The West wants to see Russia ‘as a colony’, he said in September. ‘They don’t want equal cooperation, they want to rob us.’

    This message goes down equally well in large parts of Asia, where more than a third of countries declined to condemn Russia in the initial UN vote, as well as in Central and South America, where waves of anti-western and anti-capitalist sentiment continue to swell.

    As India’s former ambassador to Russia, Venkatesh Varma, put it last week: ‘We have not accepted the western framing of the conflict. In fact there are very few takers for it in the Global South.’ He doesn’t speak for India’s government. But still India, along with China and South Africa, abstained from another UN resolution last week demanding Russia withdraw from Ukraine. Of 193 members, 141 voted in favour and 32 abstained. Seven voted against, with Russia joined by Belarus, Eritrea, Mali, North Korea, Nicaragua and Syria.

    The idea that it’s America and its allies who are the sources of global disruption and instability holds sway. The setbacks in Afghanistan and the idea that the Ukrainian war happened because of Nato’s expansion have fuelled a narrative, and even sympathy, for the idea that Putin is simply standing up to the West (which explains why North Korea has shipped artillery shells and Iran has provided kamikaze drones).

    Putin is a master of whipping up anti-American sentiment. In his address to the Federal Assembly last week, he referenced western military interventions in Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya and Syria. These showed the West acting ‘shamelessly and duplicitously… They will never be able to wash off this shame’.

    Look at how Ukraine has been supported, he added, while others have been abandoned. More than $150 billion has been spent helping and arming Kyiv, he said, while the world’s poorest countries have only received $60 billion in aid. ‘What about all this talk of fighting poverty, sustainable development and protection of the environment?’ he asked.

    Putin’s Russia even audaciously claims the high ground on racial discrimination. In a speech six months ago, Putin stated: ‘The Russophobia articulated today across the entire world is nothing but racism.’ Russia thus neatly taps into western guilt at its colonial past, while pitching itself as the leading voice for what Lavrov calls ‘the international majority’. ‘Over the long centuries of colonialism, diktat and hegemony,’ Putin said last week, the West ‘got used to being allowed everything, got used to spitting on the whole world.’

    At the same time, the Russian President appeals to the world’s social conservatism. That’s why last week he pointed to the Anglican Communion’s contortions over gay marriage and a ‘gender-neutral’ God, calling it ‘a spiritual catastrophe’. Such talk goes down well among the planet’s more devout populations, which tend to regard LGBTQ debates as evidence of western depravity and decadence. There’s a reason why RT, the Kremlin’s news channel, spent years stirring up the culture wars.

    Moscow thus presents itself as a bastion of stability in a world gone mad, even as it seeks to destabilise the world and make it even madder. Its cultural propaganda is backed up by realpolitik and trade, with oil, gas, metals and crops used as diplomatic enticements to play Russia’s game. Arms were another inducement, although poor battlefield performance in the past year has diminished its reputation as a weapons superpower.

    Then there is China, which half-heartedly called last week for peace talks, and this week is hosting Putin’s ally the Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko. The relationship between Russia and China will always be complicated, yet the invasion of Ukraine and the West’s response have created enormous opportunities for Sino-Russian cooperation. China has been buying record amounts of cheap Russian oil and gas, for instance, while exporting far more machinery and semiconductors to Russia.

    What unites them is a shared emphasis on the importance of stability and spreading the idea that it is the West which is disruptive, unpredictable and volatile.

    Western leaders speak of giving Kyiv the tools to ‘finish the job’, but the coming months look bleak

    ‘We need to work together to maintain peace and stability in the world,’ said Xi Jinping in his most recent speech at the Boao Forum, ‘and oppose the wanton use of unilateral sanctions.’ Just as Lavrov’s comments about empowering other nations are aimed at countries across Asia, Africa and Latin America – all of which have been recipients of Chinese diplomatic cultivation in the past decade – so too are these Chinese calls for ‘international solidarity’.

    It suits Beijing to echo Russia’s narrative about uneven playing fields, victimisation and pressure – not least since China has watched the war unfold in order to draw lessons that can shape its approach to Taiwan.

    On his visit to Moscow last week, senior diplomat Wang Yi spoke of ‘new frontiers’ in the relationship between China and Russia and called for joint resistance to pressure from the ‘international community’ – an apparent rebuke to US Secretary of State Antony Blinken’s threat of ‘consequences’ if China supplies military support to Russia.

    The fallout from the pandemic has in some ways played into Russia and China’s hands. As a report by the Carnegie Foundation said, without the resources available in the West, in economically vulnerable countries the crisis has ‘reversed decades of progress on poverty, healthcare and education’.

    Western countries bought up stocks of vaccines – far greater than needed – and then refused to release patent waivers for medicines, vaccines and diagnostics, pushing up prices and resulting in higher mortality levels. By contrast, energetic vaccine diplomacy by Russia and China boosted their standing, especially in Africa and Latin America. Despite the inefficacy of China’s Sinopharm and Sinovac vaccines, health officials in South Africa stopped giving the British-Swedish AstraZeneca vaccine, believing it didn’t work. Last year, a survey of ASEAN countries in south-east Asia found the EU had a positive perception score of 2.6 per cent when it came to vaccine support – compared with almost 60 per cent for China.

    As for the war, is Russia really losing? The Ukrainians have fought astonishingly well, but have suffered huge losses. Western leaders speak of giving Kyiv the tools to ‘finish the job’, but what the coming weeks, months and even years have to offer looks bleak, as the setbacks in Bakhmut suggest.

    Russia’s economy appears strong enough to keep the war going: the IMF predicts its economy will grow by 0.3 per cent this year. Meanwhile, hundreds of thousands of Russian conscripts are still being called up. As the historian Stephen Kotkin has noted, democracies fight wars differently to autocracies. Russia will keep throwing untrained recruits into the ‘meat grinder’, in which three-quarters of them die. What do their leaders do next, asks Kotkin: ‘Do they go to church on Sunday and ask forgiveness from God? They just do it again.’

    That equation is different for Ukraine, regardless of what the West supplies – because Kyiv is being armed for a defensive, rather than offensive, war. Over time that tips the balance in favour of whoever can take pain for longer, in this case Russia. Wars of attrition are expensive and hard to sustain.

    If procurement issues are one thing, replacing stock is another. The head of the British Army, General Sir Patrick Sanders, has said providing materials from the UK has left the army ‘weakened’. Unsurprisingly, the Defence Secretary Ben Wallace is seeking £10 billion for his department – at a time when the government is trying to fill the ‘fiscal black hole’ in its coffers.

    Commentators on Russian TV gleefully make this point. Kremlin talking heads often claim Europeans are freezing to death because of high energy prices or have been forced to eat grasshoppers because of a lack of Russian wheat imports. Behind such sensationalism lies the hope that Ukraine’s supporters are exhausting themselves and that cracks will soon appear in the West’s wall of solidarity. Will Germany’s new-found commitment to Ukraine survive a colder winter? Russian propagandists are also aware that, come 2025, a new US administration might provide fresh options for Moscow, especially if there is a Republican president who is isolationist, impatient or both.

    In Europe, Russia’s weaponisation of its energy resources caused widespread difficulties. Faced with shortages, European countries, including the UK, raced to replace capacity, above all through imports of liquid natural gas (LNG). This caused inflation in the West, a problem that refuses to come down even as the energy markets adapt.

    There have been big winners, such as shareholders in the five oil giants – BP, Shell, Exxon, Chevron and Total Energies – who reported combined profits of $200 billion last year. The fossil fuel-producing states of OPEC also had eye-watering revenues, reaching $850 billion last year. But the price rise of LNG has meant countries such as Pakistan and Bangladesh have suffered blackouts, which in turn cut productivity. This has paved the way for social unrest and political volatility – as well as increasing a global sense of resentment towards the West.

    In its most blunt terms, the war has served as a moment of one of the greatest transfers of wealth in history, with energy-rich states harvesting giant cash bonuses that, in turn, have further accelerated the changing of the world order.

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/is-putin-winning-the-world-order-is-changing-in-his-favour/

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    Post by Del Cap Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:23 pm

    Niz

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    Post by rumbeando Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:58 pm



    Chancellor Olaf Scholz said Thursday that Germany and its allies were in talks with Kyiv over future security guarantees in preparation of a sustainable peace for Ukraine.
    "We are speaking with Kyiv and other partners over future security guarantees for Ukraine," Scholz said in a speech to the German parliament.
    "Such security guarantees however come with the presumption that Ukraine successfully defends itself in this war," said Scholz, who will travel to the United States for talks with President Joe Biden Friday.
    Germany and some other allies increasingly had doubts about Ukraine's ability to retake all its territory from Russia, US newspaper The Wall Street Journal reported at the end of February.
    Several Western partners saw the offer of security guarantees and better access to sophisticated military equipment as a way to encourage Kyiv to enter peace talks with Russia, the paper said.
    Russian President Vladimir Putin was not ready for talks over a "just peace" and an end to the war, Scholz said in his speech, renewing calls for Moscow to withdraw its troops.
    "Nothing suggests" that Putin would come to the negotiating table at the moment, Scholz said.
    Instead, the Russian leader was relying on "threats", such as the suspension of Moscow's participation in the New START nuclear arms control pact, he said.
    https://news.yahoo.com/western-allies-discussing-security-guarantees-092909709.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
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    Post by Filipenko Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:18 pm

    Cekaj, nemacki kancelar i francuski predsednik ozbiljno nude nekakve garancije za bilo kakav sporazum, nakon sto su bivsa nemacka kancelarka i bivsi franucski predsednik javno obznanili da je prethodni sporazum ciji su garant bili bas oni zapravo bio mosa?
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Thu Mar 02, 2023 9:27 pm

    Nude Ukrajini, ne Rusiji
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    Post by Notxor Thu Mar 02, 2023 10:20 pm

    Javilo o eksploziji u Kolomni, 85km od Moskve.


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    Post by Indy Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:06 pm

    Filipenko wrote:Samo da konstatujem da je Kina oslobodila Tibet, te da su Tibetanci izasli iz mracnog srednjeg veka u kome su opsluzivali kult reinkarnizujucih demona u crvenim togama, kojima su bili umno i telesno potcinjeni do ranga ropstva.

    Hm zamenili su ih sa drugim crvenima kojima su bili potčinjeni i gore od ropstva.
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    Post by MNE Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:08 pm

    Del Cap wrote:Niz

    Since then, Kapustin kept on with his activities in Ukraine, including playing a lead pre-invasion role in some ugly anti-LGBT+ efforts — and maintaining his friendship with American Rob Rundo, currently holed up in Bulgaria despite his love for Serbia


    wait what?
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    Post by Vilmos Tehenészfiú Fri Mar 03, 2023 1:43 am

    Divan momak

    https://balkaninsight.com/2022/04/13/the-awakening-american-right-wing-extremist-finds-allies-in-the-balkans/


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Fri Mar 03, 2023 7:10 am

    Procitao sam Frankopana. Zapravo je dobro da se objavljuju takvi tekstovi i glavna prednost zapada je upravo to sto se stalno samopreispituje. 

    Going forward - cekaju nas teski momenti u ratu i vrlo opasne situacije. 

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    Post by kondo Fri Mar 03, 2023 8:08 am

    Mór Thököly wrote:
    cekaju nas teski momenti u ratu i vrlo opasne situacije. 


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    Post by Vilmos Tehenészfiú Fri Mar 03, 2023 2:47 pm

    Nema jake.


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    “Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”

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