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"Dying under bombs in Gaza cannot be the only option left to people.

Hospitals are overwhelmed. There are no more painkillers.

Our staff tell us about wounded people screaming in pain, and people who can't get to the hospital."

- Claire Magone, General Director MSF France pic.twitter.com/bpHlGBUAOB

— MSF International (@MSF) October 16, 2023

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his inner circle have indicated to their Biden counterparts that Israel has not yet come up with such a strategy and instead are more focused on the immediate goal of removing Hamas from power in Gaza, the US official says. (2/4)

— Jacob Magid (@JacobMagid) October 16, 2023

An Israeli official tells @TimesofIsrael that National Unity chair Benny Gantz and fellow faction member Gadi Eisenkot demanded the creation of a Gaza exit strategy a upon their entry into the government and that they have tasked a committee with drawing one up. (4/4)

— Jacob Magid (@JacobMagid) October 16, 2023

fikret selimbašić wrote:

Možda će se oblaci razići kad navare dovoljno roštilja na tenkove i ostali oklop. 


Sad bi bilo glupo da stanu, nikad povoljniji trenutak za konačno rešenje nije bio. U stvari, možda je već malo kasno, izgleda mi kao da popušta apsolutna podrška. U prvih pet-šest dana su imali komociju da ih sve utope u moru. Sad je već malo drugačije ali i dalje mislim da je Gaza završena priča uz kratki interludij zvani Južna Gaza koji će trajati par mjeseci ili par godina.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-768684

Why has the Gaza ground invasion been delayed since Friday? - analysis
Is Hezbollah waiting to strike until forces are in a Gaza quagmire?
By YONAH JEREMY BOB
OCTOBER 16, 2023 18:37


It seemed crystal clear on Thursday: the IDF counter-invasion of Gaza would start either Friday or Saturday.

The IDF had given certain deadlines for Palestinians to evacuate northern Gaza, with the deadlines expiring by midday Friday.

The drum beat toward an invasion had started as early as Sunday-Monday and was only getting louder, with the air force having already paved the way with several days of withering bombing.

Yet, now we have arrived at late Monday, and if anything, the signs (which could also be psychological warfare) are that the invasion is further away, and not yet imminent.

What changed?

A number of factors seem to have caused a delay, but sources have told The Jerusalem Post that one factor has been a growing concern that Hezbollah is waiting for the moment that most IDF ground forces are committed to Gaza to open a full front with the IDF in the north.

In this narrative, the fact that Hezbollah did not engage at the start of the war Saturday morning and has kept its attacks on Israel at a fairly low threshold does not prove that it is deterred but is part of an elaborate fake-out to lure the IDF into a false sense of security, similar to what Hamas pulled off in the south.

As fodder for such suspicions, sources would note that Israeli intelligence and the political echelon must have a new level of humility about their assessments of enemy intentions after missing the boat regarding Hamas in the south.

This will not stop the IDF from invading Gaza, but it may have caused a delay to better double-check signs regarding Hezbollah's intentions as well as to further reinforce the northern forces in case the worst comes to pass.

There is also a deepening recognition in the IDF and at the political level, that the IDF has not done anything like this in decades, and that rushing in unprepared, simply to more quickly satisfy the wider population's thirst for retribution, could be a large mistake.

In this perspective, the 2006 Second Lebanon War ground invasion was a complete mess, with the airpower being the successful part, with both the 2008-9 and 2014 invasions of Gaza being more symbolic.

In other words, with all of the many "rounds" of conflict, the IDF should not be overconfident about its talent at conducting large land invasion operations.

Strategy against Hamas

While achieving strategic "surprise" would be impossible given that Hamas started this war, the IDF would also like to achieve at least a tactical surprise against Hamas, which requires planning.

A number of other delaying factors could be US pressure to avoid civilian casualties, domestic concerns about Israeli hostages in Gaza, and giving more time for Palestinians to evacuate.

Another factor is the US and world response to date.

Currently, Israel feels huge support and like it has more time to work with to deal with Hamas.

One question that arises at this point though is whether top IDF and civilian leaders are misjudging the clock.

According to Hamas' numbers, already a couple thousand Palestinians are dead and many more wounded. In 2014, when 2,000 Palestinians were killed, at least half were civilians despite the IDF's attempts to avoid civilian casualties.

Such is the fog of war.

The second that those numbers balloon, which will likely be when the invasion starts in a real way, there will be powerful US and world pressure to stop.

Also, the Post has confirmed from many sources that no one has yet decided what will happen to Gaza after the IDF will supposedly topple Hamas' rule.

This and all of the other above factors have left top Israeli officials huffing and puffing for new superlatives for what they will do to Hamas...while still basically having done very little new for about a week.

Only after the war will we know whether this extra time was spent wisely crafting a smarter and more effective invasion and post-invasion plan, or whether the delay will be looked back on as having wasted precious days to "change the reality in Gaza" and avoid future near term Hamas attacks.

Since Israel declared its war on Hamas and launched strikes on Gaza, close to 60 Palestinians have been killed in the occupied West Bank, many by Jewish settlers. I went to one village where residents have been caught in the deadly crosshairs in just the past few days. pic.twitter.com/bbICCj2arR

— Becky Anderson (@BeckyCNN) October 16, 2023

"We're reaching a stage where people would rather die in combat than be humiliated and killed in their own home."

Khaled Meshaal, head of #Hamas' diaspora office: there are 6,000 male and female prisoners in #Israeli prisons that we want them freed in exchange for Israeli captives, including high-ranking officers from #Gaza division. https://t.co/H35vDvPheH pic.twitter.com/rtYvWlvuTE

— Al Arabiya English (@AlArabiya_Eng) October 16, 2023

Khaled Meshaal, head of #Hamas' diaspora office: there are 6,000 male and female prisoners in #Israeli prisons that we want them freed in exchange for Israeli captives, including high-ranking officers from #Gaza division. https://t.co/H35vDvPheH pic.twitter.com/rtYvWlvuTE

— Al Arabiya English (@AlArabiya_Eng) October 16, 2023

Hamas stole 36,000 liters of fuel from UNRWA warehouses across the Gaza Strip | Our reporter @eliorlevy with the details#KanIsraelstory pic.twitter.com/iJHVh74Q2g

— כאן חדשות (@kann_news) October 16, 2023

BREAKING: Netanyahu and US Secretary of State Blinken have been in talks for seven hours

— The Spectator Index (@spectatorindex) October 16, 2023

[size=45]Trucks carrying aid for Gaza moving towards Rafah crossing, witnesses say[/size]

BREAKING: US Secretary of State Blinken finishes 8-hour meeting with Netanyahu and Israel's war cabinet

— The Spectator Index (@spectatorindex) October 16, 2023

[size=45]U.S. President Joe Biden will visit Israel on Wednesday[/size]

The headlines focus on Biden's trip to Israel. But the next stop in Amman to meet Jordan King, Egypt's Pres Sisi and Palestinian Authority head Abbas is absolutely critical. Biden, here, mentions the right to self-determination for the Palestinians. https://t.co/COqG1cbQFO

— Juliette Kayyem (@juliettekayyem) October 17, 2023

...and make clear that Hamas does not stand for Palestinians' right to self-determination.

Israeli historian and genocide scholar Raz Segal says Israeli leaders' dehumanizing language about Palestinians in Gaza and the IDF's conduct are cause for alarm. "We're seeing the combination of genocidal acts with special intent. This is indeed a textbook case of genocide." pic.twitter.com/y9PaaViaHn

— Democracy Now! (@democracynow) October 16, 2023

- Israeli Air Forces continued to strike also in Khan Younis and other southern areas despite the directive for people in Gaza to move south
- Water remains a key issue as people will start dying without water

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