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    rumbeando

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    Post by rumbeando Tue Oct 17, 2023 6:16 pm

    Izraelski doseljenici čine svega otprilike sedminu stanovništva Zapadne Obale, ali Izrael kontroliše 85% vodenih resursa i uz to određuje kako će se ostatak distribuirati (potrebna je njegova dozvola za kopanje bunara i bez problema ih betonira kad proglasi da su nelegalni).

    Izvori:
    https://peacenow.org.il/en/settlements-watch/settlements-data/population
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/7/15/water-war-palestinians-demand-more-water-access-from-israel
    https://www.palestinechronicle.com/israeli-forces-plug-two-water-wells-with-cement-in-west-bank/

    Dokumentarac o problemima s vodom na palestinskim teritorijama koje Izrael nema:
    Spoiler:
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    Post by rumbeando Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:15 pm

    Po tviteru se tvrdi da je Izrael gađao bolnicu u centru grada Gaze (Al-Ahli Al-Arabi, drugi naziv Baptist Hospital) i da ima više stotina poginulih i ranjenih, neki izvori spominju 300 poginulih i 220 ranjenih.
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    Post by plachkica Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:39 pm

    ćaća

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    Post by ćaća Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:40 pm

    Da ponovim i ovde, svima koji u ovome učestvuju, koji ovo podržavaju i opravdavaju, želim da dugo i bolno umiru od raka kostiju.
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    Post by rumbeando Tue Oct 17, 2023 8:25 pm

    Jedan izraelski tviter nalog tvrdi​​​​​​​ da je u pitanju neuspelo lansiranje Hamasovog projektila i da navodno čak 30-40% Hamasovih raketa ne završi tamo gde oni žele.

    NBC njuz prenosi da je Hamas navodno spreman da pusti sve civilne taoce u roku od sat vremena ako Izrael zaustavi bombardovanje Gaze.

    Ne isključujem mogućnost da je Hamas pogodio bolnicu namerno ili slučajno.

    Bajden sutra dolazi u Izrael. Ako su Izraelci gađali, onda je to izuzetno bahato pokazivanje moći pred njegovu sutrašnju posetu.
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    Post by rumbeando Tue Oct 17, 2023 8:39 pm

    Evo sada IDF saopštava​​​​​​​ da preliminarni rezultati njihove istrage pokazuju da je u pitanju Hamasovo neuspešno lansiranje rakete.
    Nektivni Ugnelj

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Oct 17, 2023 8:41 pm

    sad ce se preganjati do sudnjeg dana ko je odgovoran.

    jezivo, pakao
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    Post by boomer crook Tue Oct 17, 2023 8:47 pm

    brata kao za srbe oko sarajeva: da niste ispalili 6000 raketa pre ove mozda bi vam neko i verovao


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    And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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    Post by rumbeando Tue Oct 17, 2023 8:51 pm

    Video koji je prvo retvitovao, a zatim i okačio onaj izraelski tviter nalog kad je tvrdio da je u pitanju neuspešno lansiranje je u međuvremenu izbrisan, ljudi su u komentarima tvrdili da je bajat i da na strimu s tim oznakama nije bilo takvog lansiranja u doba gađanja bolnice, ali nisam našao otkada je. Bio je ovde: https://twitter.com/HenMazzig/status/1714348941553135889

    Spoiler:


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    Post by fikret selimbašić Tue Oct 17, 2023 8:51 pm

    boomer crook wrote:brata kao za srbe oko sarajeva: da niste ispalili 6000 raketa pre ove mozda bi vam neko i verovao


    Ili Rusija v Ukrajina, ukrajinske civlile ubijaju ukrajinske rakete, nekad PVO, nekad zalutale Točke.


    Da li će nakon bolnice bombardovanje da prestane ili će priču o bolnici da zatrpa novo i jače™ bombardovanje?


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    Međuopštinski pustolov.

    Zli stolar.
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    Post by boomer crook Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:04 pm

    fikret selimbašić wrote:
    boomer crook wrote:brata kao za srbe oko sarajeva: da niste ispalili 6000 raketa pre ove mozda bi vam neko i verovao


    Ili Rusija v Ukrajina, ukrajinske civlile ubijaju ukrajinske rakete, nekad PVO, nekad zalutale Točke.


    Da li će nakon bolnice bombardovanje da prestane ili će priču o bolnici da zatrpa novo i jače™ bombardovanje?

    ma pre neki dan su strovalili celo selo rusi iskanderom.


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    And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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    Post by rumbeando Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:13 pm

    NRC = Norwegian Refugee Council

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    Post by plachkica Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:17 pm

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:28 pm

    ja ovde nista ne vidim
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    Post by plachkica Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:29 pm

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    Post by plachkica Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:31 pm

    Nektivni Ugnelj

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:32 pm

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    Post by plachkica Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:33 pm

    bbc juče

    (ima gomila snimaka udara u bolnicu, sa zvukom aviona, ne umem da procenim šta je relevantno a šta ne pa neću da šerujem)

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    Post by rumbeando Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:50 pm

    ​Ovo je istraživanje iz septembra, jedino bivši lider vojnog krila Fataha Barguti, koji je u izraelskom zatvoru na doživotnoj robiji, pobeđuje lidera Hamasa. Ovaj Štaje što se spominje je premijer, Abas je predsednik. 

     
    Legislative and presidential elections:


    • If new presidential elections were held today and only two candidates, Mahmoud Abbas and Ismail Haniyeh, the voter turnout would be only 42%, and among those who would participate, Abbas would receive 37% of the vote and Haniyeh 58% (compared to 56% for Haniyeh and 33% for Abbas three months ago). In the Gaza Strip, the vote for Abbas stands at 33% and for Haniyeh at 64%, while in the West Bank Abbas receives 43% and Haniyeh 50%. If the competition is between Marwan Barghouti and Haniyeh, participation would rise to 59% and among those voting, Barghouti receives 60% and Haniyeh 37%. If the competition were between Mohammad Shtayyeh and Ismail Haniyeh, participation would drop to only 41%, with Shtayyeh receiving 33% and Haniyeh receiving 62%.

    • In a closed question, we asked the public to select the person they prefer to see as President Abbas's successor. The largest percentage (34%) said they prefer Marwan Barghouti; 17% preferred Ismail Haniyeh; 6% preferred Mohammed Dahlan, 5% preferred Khaled Meshaal, 3% preferred Yahya al-Sinwar, Muhammad Shtayyeh, and Hussein al-Sheikh, and 30% said they did not know or chose someone else.

    • Level of satisfaction with the performance of president Abbas stands at 22% and dissatisfaction at 76%. Satisfaction with Abbas stands at 21% in the West Bank and 24% in the Gaza Strip.  Three months ago, satisfaction with Abbas stood at 17% and dissatisfaction at 80%. 78% want Abbas to resign while 19% want him to remain in office. Three months ago, 80% said they want Abbas to resign. Demand for Abbas' resignation stands at 78% in the West Bank and 79% in the Gaza Strip.

    • If new parliamentary elections were held today with the participation of all political forces that participated in the 2006 elections, 64% say they would participate in them, and among these participants, Fateh receives 36%, Hamas' Change and Reform 34%, all other lists combined 9%, and 21% say they have not yet decided whom they will vote for. Three months ago, vote for Hamas stood at 34% and Fatah at 33%. Vote for Hamas in the Gaza Strip stands today at 44% (compared to 44% three months ago) and for Fateh at 32% (compared to 28% three months ago). In the West Bank, vote for Hamas stands at 24% (compared to 25% three months ago) and Fatah at 40% (compared to 34% three months ago).

    • 27% believe that Hamas is the most deserving of representing and leading the Palestinian people today while 24% believe that Fateh under the leadership of Abbas is more deserving; 44% believe both are unworthy of representation and leadership. Three months ago, 31% said Hamas is the most deserving, 21% said Fateh led by Abbas is the most deserving, and 43% said both are unworthy of representation and leadership.
    https://www.pcpsr.org/en/node/951
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    Post by ćaća Tue Oct 17, 2023 10:08 pm

    https://twitter.com/ytirawi/status/1714360597192589405?t=XOp2_C0yclKYqlvvLX1kYg&s=19
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    Post by beatakeshi Tue Oct 17, 2023 11:17 pm

    Janko Suvar wrote:Блиски исток - Page 38 F8qiXigbQAAeusF?format=jpg&name=medium
    Otrcani propagandista.
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    Post by Guest Tue Oct 17, 2023 11:23 pm

    Да се не крију иза цивила не би ни били терористи. Били би оно што мисле да јесу - борци за слободу. Да се Израел не истовара по цивилима ни они не би били то што јесу - злочиначка творевина. Него оно што мисле да јесу.
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