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Hamas terror is now bringing immense suffering to the Palestinian people.

There is no contradiction in standing in solidarity with Israel and acting for the humanitarian needs of the Palestinians ↓
https://t.co/ZXaU5I3u6V

— Ursula von der Leyen (@vonderleyen) October 17, 2023

‘…it’s hard to see what else this could be really given the size of the explosion’ - BBC reporter pic.twitter.com/VWiC8uHCDs

— Birmingham Stop the War Coalition (@BrumStWC) October 17, 2023

The entire world should know: It was barbaric terrorists in Gaza that attacked the hospital in Gaza, and not the IDF.

Those who brutally murdered our children also murder their own children.

— Benjamin Netanyahu - בנימין נתניהו (@netanyahu) October 17, 2023

Netanjahu je sinoć objavio, a danas izbrisao ovaj tvit:


Detalji iz govora su inače dostupni ovde:
https://www.gov.il/en/departments/news/excerpt-from-pm-netanyahu-s-remarks-at-the-opening-of-the-knesset-s-winter-assembly-16-oct-2023

Izraelski ministar nacionalne bezbednosti večeras: dok Hamas ne oslobodi taoce, jedina stvar koja treba da ulazi u Gazu su stotine tona bombi našeg ratnog vazduhoplovstva, ni gram humanitarne pomoći.



Original na: https://twitter.com/itamarbengvir/status/1714340519487176791

Jordan otkazao sastanak na vrhu s Bajdenom na kome je trebalo da budu palestinski predsednik Abas, egipatski predsednik Sisi i jordanski kralj Abdula II, a koji je trebalo da se održi dan posle njegove posete Izraelu.

Protestanti su po večerašnjem napadu na bolnicu u glavnom gradu Jordana pokušali da zapale izraelsku ambasadu.

BREAKING: CBS reports that Israel has asked for $10 billion in emergency US aid

imagine how terrible the situation must be that you manage to unite all TURKISH POLITICAL PARTIES within an hour. https://t.co/rKXp9sOmcF

— Marcos Moschovidis (EU FOR YOU) (@Moschovidis) October 17, 2023

Početak niza tvitova sa nekoliko verovatnih snimaka događaja u kome se zaključuje da jeste u pitanju Hamasova raketa.

GeoConfirmed ISR-PAL.

A missile launched by Palestinian Groups exploded mid-air and one of the pieces fell on the Al-Ahli Arab Hospital's yard.

31.504822, 34.46169

Before reacting READ our thread.https://t.co/qbpUGQk89o

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— GeoConfirmed (@GeoConfirmed) October 17, 2023

LoL NAFO Osint nalozi izračunali da je Hamasova raketa koja inače ne može da odvali pola terase Šloma iz Haife u normalnim okolnostima, baš sad zabagovala, usred jedne od najžešćih osvetničkih kampanja bombardovanja u istoriji čovečanstva, i baš nekako pala na bolnicu i ubila 500 ljudi koji se tamo kriju.

Btw

Svi su sada mrtvi

https://twitter.com/Lowkey0nline/status/1714367101450785121?t=3H3zpHZVJe7cJBmYrEzkLg&s=19

potrebna je fina količina eksploziva da bi u nekakvoj zgradi ubio 100, 200, x stotina ljudi. pričamo verovatno o 500+ kila eksploziva, a to su ili balističke rakete (koje se dole u suštini ne koriste u ovom sukobu) ili avio bombe. nagađam, ovo je gruba logika. kad su rusi razvalili ono pozorište u mariupolju to je bilo iz takve avio-bombe, zgrada je sravnjena sa zemljom a mrtvih je bilo verovatno na stotine.

Kao da se bolnica zove Markale, bozemeprosti.

ćaća wrote:LoL NAFO Osint

Jedini ko se vidi da je pucao u tim momentima su Hamasovci. Ima gore onaj snimak sa YT koji može da se vraća, koliko sam video ništa drugo nije padalo po Gazi ni neposredno pre ni neposedno posle.

Emirati, koji su od arapskih zemalja najbolji sa Izraelom, ga okrivili za bombardovanje bolnice.

#UAE strongly condemns the Israeli attack that targeted Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital in the #Gaza Strip resulting in the death and injury of hundreds of people.@mofauae expresses its deep regret for the loss of life and conveys its condolences to the families of the victims,…

— Afra Al Hameli (@AfraMalHameli) October 17, 2023

na al džaziri kažu da je taj deo gaze i pre i posle gađanja bolnice bombardovan, zato je i bilo toliko ljudi jer su se sklonili u bolnicu

btw, jel i ursula i šolc su svoj tvit napisali posle gađanja bolnice, jel niko iz njihove ekipe ne gleda vesti ili ih totalno zabole?

Brutal terror. The execution of defenseless civilians. Murdered infants, abducted children. Humiliated Holocaust survivors. It makes our blood run cold.

Israel has the right to defend itself against this. A state has a duty to protect its citizens. pic.twitter.com/TjQMcAkXQI

— Bundeskanzler Olaf Scholz (@Bundeskanzler) October 17, 2023

rumbeando wrote:

ćaća wrote:LoL NAFO Osint

Jedini ko se vidi da je pucao u tim momentima su Hamasovci. Ima gore onaj snimak sa YT koji može da se vraća, koliko sam video ništa drugo nije padalo po Gazi ni neposredno pre ni neposedno posle.

Brt moi, jel ovako zviždi hamasova kaćuša?

https://twitter.com/doamuslims/status/1714336629555405266?t=EwTlJMF5MuUs9im6jofKmA&s=19

Drugi opet tvrde na osnovu fijuka da je u pitanju avionska bomba:

Having spent several months under airstrikes sometimes more than a dozen a night, often within 100 meters, it was the incoming whistle in this video that was the airstrike giveaway for me. You don’t forget that sound.
“A fragment from a rocket” is not consistent with this. https://t.co/r6OQT7Qhhh

— Iona Craig أيونا كريچ (@ionacraig) October 17, 2023

Brži si.

Verovatno si u pravu.

Neka osnovna logika mi je da hamasove raketice sa 50kg bojeve glave nemaju sanse da naprave ovoliki uticaj i ovoliko poginulih.

Spomenuta potvrda da je WaPost verifikovao snimak:

Video of what Palestinian authorities say was an Israeli strike on al-Ahli Hospital in Gaza shows the moment an explosion hits the hospital grounds. The video, verified by The Washington Post, captures the first sounds of an explosion and then a blast. https://t.co/ApBJlxYIPF pic.twitter.com/8vtS4AwXMu

— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) October 17, 2023

Jedino što je danas drugačije u odnosu na ostale dane je to što je umesto standardnih 50-150 ljudi u bombardovanju zaginulo 500-1000 pa je izraelska slowačka vojnica time bila pomalo iznenađenja, pa i zbunjena, te umesto standardnih ko vam jebe mater ognjem i mačem saopštenja sada idu čupanja i zamajavanja i u tu svrhu se uprežu standardni relativizatori, manipulatori i nezavisni CIA analitičari.

Sad gledam sta IAF ima u arsenalu od aviobombi i nadjem na ovaj tekst iz insajdera od pre dva dana.

[size=31]As Israeli jets devastate Gaza, air force photos show fighter aircraft armed with what look like unguided 'dumb' bombs[/size]

https://www.businessinsider.com/israeli-air-force-photos-fighter-aircraft-armed-unguided-weapons-2023-10

rumbeando wrote:Spomenuta potvrda da je WaPost verifikovao snimak:

Video of what Palestinian authorities say was an Israeli strike on al-Ahli Hospital in Gaza shows the moment an explosion hits the hospital grounds. The video, verified by The Washington Post, captures the first sounds of an explosion and then a blast. https://t.co/ApBJlxYIPF pic.twitter.com/8vtS4AwXMu

— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) October 17, 2023

Prije neki dan sam gledao javljanje CNN-ove reporterke ispred kuće u Aškelonu koju je pogodila raketa i unišitila stan na drugom katu. Šteta je otprilike kao da je pogođen topovskom granatom srednjeg kalibra. Nešto ovakvo bolnici ne bi napravio ni baraž Hamasovih raketa, a kamoli jedna ili neki njen dio. 

Snimka udara, uz pripadajući zvižduk, potvrđuje da ovo nije Hamasova raketa niti njen dio koji je pao na bolnicu. Oni nemaju ništa ni približno ovako ubojito. Tako da je zaključak ovih GeoConfirmed likova bulšit.

Ovo što piše Yousef u odgovoru na njihov post mi se čini najvjerojatnije...

It rules out a rocket misfire. It means the possibilities are:
1) Israel uses heat-seeking missiles (via cruise missile or airstrike) to destroy the rocket launchers, they fired some here and accidentally also hit the hospital, perhaps locked onto hospital's power generators.

Or:
2) The hospital was on their list of targets anyway and the strike was deliberate.

Basically we can conclude Israel was behind the strike, question is whether it was accidental or not.

Da dodam i ovo, prije pet dana je na Džaziri gostovao bivši izraelski ambasador u SAD-u Dani Ajalon i, osim što je mrtav-hladan izjavio da ljude iz Gaze treba iseliti na Sinaj (Egypt has to play ball!), moglo bi se reći najavio ovo što se večeras dogodilo. Priča o najvećoj bolnici u Gazi Al Šifi, Hamasovom 'bunkeru', počinje na 20:00.