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    Post by Del Cap Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:08 pm

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/12/09/long-covid-work-unemployed/

    Long covid is destroying careers, leaving economic distress in its wake
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:47 pm

    Lutrija kako ćeš proći, pogotovu pre vakcina. Užas.
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    Post by bela maca Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:48 pm

    ne znaš da li je gora bolest ili njihov zdravstveni sistem, jebeni varvari


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    Nektivni Ugnelj

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:53 pm

    A, to posebno.
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    Post by rumbeando Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:34 pm

    Gauteng 10.12. vs 8.12.
    Hospitalizacije 2512 vs 1990 (rast od 26% - odgovara vremenu dupliranja od oko 6 dana)
    Na kiseoniku 331 vs 280 (rast od 18% - odgovara vremenu dupliranja od oko 8 dana)
    Na respiratoru 69 vs 58 (rast od 19% - odgovara vremenu dupliranja od oko 8 dana)

    Broj umrlih za dva dana: 54, tj. dnevni prosek 27
    Broj umrlih za 10 dana pre toga: 124, tj. dnevni prosek 12,4
    I smrtnost očigledno raste.

    Izvor:
    https://www.nicd.ac.za/diseases-a-z-index/disease-index-covid-19/surveillance-reports/daily-hospital-surveillance-datcov-report/

    Slike u spoileru:
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    Raspodela ovih 54 umrlih u zadnja dva dana po starosnim grupama:

    0-9: 2
    10-19: 1
    20-29: 1
    30-39: 6
    40-49: 8
    50-59: 7
    60-69: 7
    70-79: 8
    80+: 14
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    Post by rumbeando Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:50 pm

    Dobra vest je da je u Gautengu danas prijavljeno za 20% manje novozaraženih nego prošlog petka, što bi moglo da znači da će se talas izduvati pre nego što postane kritično u bolnicama. Nažalost, drugde i dalje raste pa je ukupan broj slučajeva u državi veći nego prošlog petka.

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    https://twitter.com/nicd_sa/status/1469400938964307969
    https://twitter.com/nicd_sa/status/1466814557154906116
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    Post by rumbeando Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:00 am

    Južnoafrikanci su juče ujutru držali KZŠ, evo sažetka i snimka:
     
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    Post by fikret selimbašić Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:16 am

    Samo da kažem kako je u mom okruženiju ponovo krenuo talas oboljenja, sličan onom iz septembra i oktobra prošle godine. Za par dana je fasovalo dvanaestak ljudi koje poznajem, sa puno zajebanijom variantom nego prošle godine. Jedan je na respiratoru, ostali leže i žale se da je zaista ozbiljno, dvoje vakcinisanih AZ--om su u izolaciji sa blagim ili nikakvim simptomima. Ostali su nevakcinisani, mislim da onaj na respiratoru još uvije ne vjeruje u koronu.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:56 am

    Da, to je onaj slucaj

    - toliko sam verovao u tebe, sto me nisi spasio
    - kako nisam, organizovao sam onolike ljude da naprave vakcinu
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    Post by rumbeando Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:00 am

    Nova zvanična britanska procena omikrona: ima prednost u širenju nad deltom sigurno zbog rezaražavanja tj. izbegavanja imuniteta stečenog vakcinisanjem ili preležavanjem delte i ranijih sojeva, ali možda i sam po sebi (tj. među nezaraženima), kažu da je i u tom pogledu zarazan najmanje kao delta. Još nisu napravili procenu je li blaži ili ne, kažu da nemaju dovoljno podataka.

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    Post by rumbeando Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:14 am

    Britanski ministar: situacija je vrlo zabrinjavajuća, dobili smo vrlo neprijatne informacije tako da razmatramo promenu ograničenja. Imamo najveći dnevni broj infekcija još od 9. januara, omikron se duplira se za 2-3 dana u Engleskoj, a možda i brže u Škotskoj, i čini preko 30% slučajeva u Londonu iako je njegovo prisustvo prvi put detektovano pre samo dve nedelje.

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    Post by rumbeando Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:23 am

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:32 am

    Vakcine vise nisu tu da eliminisu pandemiju nego da sprece smrt i raspad sistema.
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    Post by rumbeando Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:54 am

    Situacija u Engleskoj po pitanju potpuno nezaštićenih među onima starijim od 15 godina uopšte ne izgleda loše.

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    https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1469427353117986829
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    Post by rumbeando Sat Dec 11, 2021 12:00 pm

    Procena iz tehničkog izveštaja o omikronu objavljenog juče je da bi u Britaniji već na katolički Božić imali milion slučaja dnevno ako ništa ne preduzmu i nastavi se dupliranje za 2,5 dana.



    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1040076/Technical_Briefing_31.pdf (strana 28)
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    Post by rumbeando Sat Dec 11, 2021 12:04 pm

    Ispravka:

    rumbeando wrote:Nova zvanična britanska procena omikrona: ima prednost u širenju nad deltom sigurno zbog rezaražavanja tj. izbegavanja imuniteta stečenog vakcinisanjem ili preležavanjem delte i ranijih sojeva, ali možda i sam po sebi (tj. među nezaraženima potpuno nezaštićenima)
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    Post by rumbeando Sat Dec 11, 2021 12:52 pm

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    https://twitter.com/GosiaGasperoPhD/status/1469456805491138560
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    Post by rumbeando Sat Dec 11, 2021 1:17 pm

    Karakteristike prvih slučajeva omikrona u SAD:

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    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7050e1.htm?s_cid=mm7050e1_w
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    Post by rumbeando Sat Dec 11, 2021 1:24 pm

    ​ 
    COVID-19: Omicron could cause between 25,000 and 75,000 deaths in England without tougher restrictions - experts

    The Omicron variant could cause between 25,000 to 75,000 deaths in England over the next five months if no additional measures are taken beyond Plan B, according to experts.
    New modelling from the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine (LSHTM) used experimental data to look at how Omicron may transmit as the country heads into 2022.
    It suggests that Omicron could potentially cause more cases and hospitalisations in England than during the wave in January 2021, if additional control measures are not taken.
    Under the best-case scenario, the variant could lead to a peak of more than 2,000 daily hospital admissions, with 175,000 hospitalisations and 24,700 deaths between 1 December 2021 and 30 April 2022, the projection suggests.
    The optimistic scenario is one where Omicron's immunity escape is low and boosters prove highly effective.
    Measures such as restrictions on indoor hospitality, closure of some entertainment venues, and limits on gathering sizes from early next year would be sufficient to substantially control this wave, reducing hospitalisations by 53,000 and deaths by 7,600, the experts say.
    Under the worst-case scenario (high immune escape and lower effectiveness of boosters), if no additional control measures are taken, there could be 492,000 hospitalisations and 74,800 deaths.
    In this scenario, the experts estimate that stronger measures may be required to keep the number of hospital admissions below the January 2021 peak.
    Dr Rosanna Barnard, who co-led the research, said that while there is still a lot of uncertainty over Omicron, "these early projections help guide our understanding about potential futures in a rapidly evolving situation".
    "In our most optimistic scenario, the impact of Omicron in the early part of 2022 would be reduced with mild control measures such as working from home," she said.
    "However, our most pessimistic scenario suggests that we may have to endure more stringent restrictions to ensure the NHS is not overwhelmed.
    "Mask-wearing, social distancing and booster jabs are vital, but may not be enough.
    "Nobody wants to endure another lockdown, but last-resort measures may be required to protect health services if Omicron has a significant level of immune escape or otherwise increased transmissibility compared to Delta.
    "It is crucial for decision-makers to consider the wider societal impact of these measures, not just the epidemiology."
    https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-omicron-could-cause-between-25-000-and-75-000-deaths-in-england-without-tougher-restrictions-experts-12492584
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    Post by rumbeando Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:04 pm

    18 (1,4%) hospitalizovanih među dosad zaraženima omikronom u Danskoj. Nevakcinisanih među zaraženima je 177, tj. 13,8%.

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    https://files.ssi.dk/covid19/omikron/statusrapport/rapport-omikronvarianten-10122021-ek56-version2
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    Post by rumbeando Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:23 pm

    Prvi Izraelac koji se potvrđeno zarazio omikronom, lekar koji ga je pokupio na simpozijumu u Londonu, vratio se na posao, ali je i dalje malaksao. Trostruko je vakcinisan Fajzerom i preležao je kod kuće.

    Ten days after Dr. Elad Maor was diagnosed as the country’s first Omicron variant COVID-19 patient, the cardiologist returned to work at Sheba Medical Center.
    “I am still weak,” he told The Jerusalem Post on Tuesday from one of the hospital’s bustling cafeterias on his first day back.
    Maor tested positive for COVID-19 on November 28 and was diagnosed as having the variant a few days later. He was fully vaccinated with three shots of the Pfizer coronavirus vaccine. (...)
    The variant hit Maor harder than he expected, causing a fever for 48 hours and extreme fatigue for 72 hours. He said he had muscle aches, too. And even now, Maor said he is not feeling back to himself.
    https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/coronavirus/israels-first-omicron-covid-case-i-am-still-weak-688107
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sat Dec 11, 2021 3:12 pm

    rumbeando wrote:Virus - Page 9 FGSMKVrVEAADZXJ?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

    https://twitter.com/GosiaGasperoPhD/status/1469456805491138560

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    Post by Sotir Sat Dec 11, 2021 3:30 pm

    rumbeando wrote:1,4% hospitalizovanih među dosad zaraženima omikronom u Danskoj. 
    Са ранијим сојевима је било више преминулих него хоспитализованих са омикроном.
    Што значи да ће донети неке мере отприлике кад буду десетине хиљада заражених дневно.
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    Post by rumbeando Sat Dec 11, 2021 3:58 pm

    rumbeando wrote:18 (1,4%) hospitalizovanih među dosad zaraženima omikronom u Danskoj.

    Danci testiraju sve u 16, evo kako izgleda dnevni prosek broja testova na 1000 stanovnika usrednjen na nedeljnom nivou u Danskoj, Britaniji, Nemačkoj i Srbiji:

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    https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Tests&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=DNK~GBR~DEU~SRB


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