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    Nektivni Ugnelj

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:13 pm

    Jedino sto pozdravljam je broj testiranih. On se priblizava potrebnom. Kad se ljudi nahvataju u ranoj fazi idealno i pre simptoma, vece su sanse za pozitivan ishod. Sto se pak tice broja umrlih, bice veoma zanimljivo videti uk. brojeve umrlih za recimo Bgd i Nis za drugo tromesecje u odnosu na proslu godinu. Ako se bude moglo doci do pouzdanih brojeva
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    Post by kondo Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:18 pm

    nadaj se dječače

    knjige umrlih duži bia


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:20 pm

    Jednom cemo saznati u svakom slucaju
    nalog sa ženinog laptopa

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    Post by nalog sa ženinog laptopa Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:20 pm

    Marius Lăcătuș wrote:nadaj se dječače

    knjige umrlih duži bia

    a biu duži kgb!

    srdačno pozdrav,
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    sun. People have visited the moon, we have sent space probes to 
    all but one of the planets, and words like "orbit" and "satellite" are 
    picked up by children in the nursery.
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    Post by Erős Pista Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:21 pm

    GRU!


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    Post by kondo Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:23 pm

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    Post by Guest Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:01 pm

    #BREAKING Russian prime minister says he has coronavirus
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    Post by Guest Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:03 pm

    Kako dalje

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    Post by disident Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:07 pm

    The future is now


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    Post by Guest Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:15 pm

    паће

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    Post by паће Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:19 pm

    Ма јебо ти то друштвено дистанцирање... има ли нешто приватно и колико кошта?

    Мада, симулација на овом гифу подразумева да проветравање не ради. А и не ради, док не полети.


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    Post by Guest Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:22 pm

    društveno distanciranje je ako svako od nas piše na posebnoj temi

    ovo je fizičko distanciranje
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    Post by паће Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:25 pm

    То. Једном годишње, у вр главе, наиђе им нова појава и у цугу не укапирају суштину и надену јој погрешно име.

    Један у Алабами погрешно схватио и држи се шест стопа од монитора кад иде на фејса. Јер соушл.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:28 pm

    Bendegúz Somogyi wrote:

    Resenje je da taj sto kaslje ne udje u avion
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:28 pm

    Bendegúz Somogyi wrote:#BREAKING Russian prime minister says he has coronavirus

    Medvedev pobedijo
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    Post by Guest Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:09 pm

    Došla je do mene neproverena informacija da postoji problem sa obučenošću osoblja koje uzima briseve. Bris treba nabiti duboko u grlo, da to bude izuzetno neprijatan postupak. Mnogi, navodno, uzimaju bris kao u dečjem dispanzeru što dovodi do lažno negativnih rezultata, a znam za jedan konkretan slučaj osobe koja sasvim izvesno ima koronu (svakodnevna izloženost, supruga pozitivna, jasni respiratorni simptomi) i tako se i leči i pored negativnog rezultata.
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    Post by Sotir Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:41 pm

    Једном познанику су скоро вадили узорак из носа. Штапић се набије 10ак цм. Кад су мени вадили пре коју годину морао сам кући да гледам неке медицинске атласе да видим где су ме то џарали.

    Иначе су узели узорак у понедељак ујутро, стигли резултати вечерас. Скоро четири дана за које заражени може да сеје около.
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    Post by Sotir Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:42 pm

    Иначе и сами тестови имају одређену тачност, нису сви 100% тачни.
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    Post by MNE Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:51 pm

    naravno, PCR metoda ne može da bude tačna kad su ove stvari u pitanju
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    Post by Guest Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:55 pm

    MNE wrote:naravno, PCR metoda ne može da bude tačna kad su ove stvari u pitanju

    Koja metoda je tačna, ako PCR, zlatni standard u dijagnosici, nije?
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    Post by Guest Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:04 pm

    pa ono kao pogledaš da li neko ima koronu i vidiš

    eto

    šta tu pcr
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    Post by rumbeando Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:23 pm

    0 domaćih slučajeva danas u Južnoj Koreji. 4 uvezena.

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    Post by Guest Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:26 pm

    Kupujmo domaće!
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    Post by rumbeando Fri May 01, 2020 1:48 am

    Al' će biti veselo:

    Texas reported 50 more COVID-19 deaths on Thursday, the most in any one day since the state reported its first deaths in mid-March.

    The state also reported it had added more than 1,000 new positive cases of COVID-19, the biggest one-day increase in infections since April 10.

    The numbers came out less than 9 hours before Gov. Greg Abbott was set to lift restrictions on many businesses, allowing malls, movie theaters, retail stores and restaurants to begin operating at 12:01 a.m. Friday. Those types of businesses can only operate at 25 percent of their maximum capacity for the next two weeks under Abbott’s phased re-opening plan. After that, if things are going well, Abbott has said those places can go to 50 percent occupancy.

    Abbott’s statewide stay-at-home order expires at the end of Thursday.
    https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/texas/article/Texas-reports-most-deaths-in-a-day-from-COVID-19-15238205.php
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    Post by MNE Fri May 01, 2020 8:55 am

    Halászlé wrote:
    MNE wrote:naravno, PCR metoda ne može da bude tačna kad su ove stvari u pitanju

    Koja metoda je tačna, ako PCR, zlatni standard u dijagnosici, nije?

    http://abuiyaad.s3.amazonaws.com/health/paper-corona-pcr-test-2.pdf

    i iz drugog izvora

    It uses ‘amplification’ which means taking a very very tiny amount of DNA and growing it exponentially until it can be analyzed. Obviously any minute contaminations in the sample will also be amplified leading to potentially gross errors of discovery.
    Additionally, it’s only looking for partial viral sequences, not whole genomes, so identifying a single pathogen is next to impossible even if you ignore the other issues.
    The Mickey Mouse test kits being sent out to hospitals, at best, tell analysts you have some viral DNA in your cells. Which most of us do, most of the time. It may tell you the viral sequence is related to a specific type of virus – say the huge family of coronavirus. But that’s all. The idea these kits can isolate a specific virus like COVID-19 is nonsense.
    And that’s not even getting into the other issue – viral load.
    If you remember the PCR works by amplifying minute amounts of DNA. It therefore is useless at telling you how much virus you may have. And that’s the only question that really matters when it comes to diagnosing illness. Everyone will have a few virus kicking round in their system at any time, and most will not cause illness because their quantities are too small. For a virus to sicken you you need a lot of it, a massive amount of it. But PCR does not test viral load and therefore can’t determine if a osteogenesis is present in sufficient quantities to sicken you.
    If you feel sick and get a PCR test any random virus DNA might be identified even if they aren’t at all involved in your sickness which leads to false diagnosis.
    And coronavirus are incredibly common. A large percentage of the world human population will have covi DNA in them in small quantities even if they are perfectly well or sick with some other pathogen.

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