Levica u Srbiji i svetu

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Post by Esterházy Márton Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:42 pm

nije zgoreg prisetiti se da je SFRJ bila ishod NOB-a, i kao takva, tvorevina revolucije, posledica revolucije, a ne njen uzrok ili nosilac. Stvarni nosilac revolucije bio je naoružani, samoorganizovani narod, koji se borio i protiv nacista, fašista, itd. ali i protiv pretenzija saveznika da raskomadaju Jugoslaviju i da ukinu njen socijalistički karakter. Isto tako, ni neka famozna „Balkanska federacija“ ne može biti pretpostavka, već eventualni rezultat borbi.

Kaki kvake za saveznike. I preskace ulogu SSSR oko pobede "revolucije".

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Post by Guest Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:52 pm

pa danas nema samo tog jednog za soc revoluciju minornog svetskog faktora, SSSR Levica u Srbiji i svetu - Page 19 1399639816

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Post by Guest Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:52 pm

Мени је сумњиво и ово око самоорганизације.

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Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:58 pm

Taj deo teksta jeste realno nebitan, ali je 1 potpuna glupost sa pet netačnosti u četiri reda.

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Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:01 pm

No Country wrote:Мени је сумњиво и ово око самоорганизације.

Oko samoorganizacije i tako-tako, ali taj "samoorganizovani" narod teško da je bio nosilac revolucije. Niti je "samoorganizovani narod" igde bio nosilac (uspešne) revolucije. Naravno da je uvek za to neophodna jasno profilisana politička avangarda.

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Post by Guest Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:03 pm

kakve ovde nema ni u najavi

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Post by boomer crook Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:03 pm

Gargantua wrote:zanimljiv je ovaj rat(ić) na, recimo, levici.

zapravo vec jenjava. ova institucionalizacija delica, draskovica i ostalih "nacionalista" kroz novi plamen je pokazatelj da je ta prica prilicno mrtva.

inace poceo sam da citam pa batalio. zapravo su najludje fantazije o suverenistickoj desnici. ta ista suverenisticka desnica je stajala u redovima za dobrovoljce za irak.

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And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started

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Post by boomer crook Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:06 pm

mislim ovde se cela stvar vrti oko kooptiranja raznih ludana u neki suverenisticki levo-desno mrdalica front protiv EU i amerike a za povratak na kosovo zato sto to narod zeli.

inace jedini saveznik koji je zeleo razbijanje jugoslavije makar u nekom periodu je bio sssr. pri tome je nejasno kako se mogao ukinuti socijalisticki karakter kraljevine jugoslavije.

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And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started

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Post by boomer crook Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:10 pm

naravno problem je i taj sto su svi ovde na nekim navodno suverenistickim pozicijama. eto im juce nastup vucicev u cirilici. naravno to je zato sto suverenost nije egzaktan pojam vec jedan veoma konfuzan i protivrecan i razlicite upotrebe tog termina dolaze od razlicitih ljudi sa razlicitih politickih pozicija.

https://iwallerstein.com/the-myth-of-sovereignty/

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And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started

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Post by boomer crook Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:14 pm

e da i da dodam da je ova ekipa kao i cirjakovic instinktivno vucicevska.

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And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started

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Post by disident Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:14 pm

bruno sulak wrote:e da i da dodam da je ova ekipa kao i cirjakovic instinktivno vucicevska.

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Post by boomer crook Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:16 pm

pa vise ne. to je ludi goatmare koji ima stokholmski slobisticki sindrom a ova ekipa je anti-drugosrbijanska i samim tim vucicevska. oni se svi oblizuju kada vucic kenja po zutima a lajna vesne pesic zavija u ocaju.

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And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started

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Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:18 pm

bruno sulak wrote:mislim ovde se cela stvar vrti oko kooptiranja raznih ludana u neki suverenisticki levo-desno mrdalica front protiv EU i amerike a za povratak na kosovo zato sto to narod zeli.

inace jedini saveznik koji je zeleo razbijanje jugoslavije makar u nekom periodu je bio sssr. pri tome je nejasno kako se mogao ukinuti socijalisticki karakter kraljevine jugoslavije.

bolje da ovo sve kažeš ti nego ja Levica u Srbiji i svetu - Page 19 1399639816

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Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:18 pm

disident wrote:

bruno sulak wrote:e da i da dodam da je ova ekipa kao i cirjakovic instinktivno vucicevska.

slobisticka

tako je

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Post by boomer crook Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:19 pm

mislim kada bih ja morao da ih politicki odredim oni su sustinski peronisti i to linijom preko laklaua.

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And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started

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Post by boomer crook Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:20 pm

mislim ova diskusija na kraju moze biti i plodna.

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And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started

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Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:20 pm

bruno sulak wrote:naravno problem je i taj sto su svi ovde na nekim navodno suverenistickim pozicijama. eto im juce nastup vucicev u cirilici. naravno to je zato sto suverenost nije egzaktan pojam vec jedan veoma konfuzan i protivrecan i razlicite upotrebe tog termina dolaze od razlicitih ljudi sa razlicitih politickih pozicija.

i u različitim epohama.

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Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:23 pm

Ima još jedna stvar, skoro sve to što se može reći za suverenitet se može reći i za nacionalizam. Pošto biti nacionalista u Vijetnamu 1970 i biti nacionalista u Srbiji 2020 su ne dve, nego dvadeset dve stvari.

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Post by Mr.Pink Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:29 pm

Aha eurosepsom do nekih npvih saveznistva balkanskih

Nije mi poznata ta ekipa sto drzi plamen, nisam u toku zaista

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Post by Mr.Pink Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:34 pm

Al kad procitah antonic bio sam wtf

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Post by Erős Pista Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:41 pm

Pa to je punktum teksta, fusnota o Antonicu. Tu bi trebalo da zastanu i kao - wtf, ako smi se nasli u istoj ekipi s njim, vreme je da se vratimo za drawing board. Al oni jok.

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Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:58 pm

Ma boli ih uvo za Antonića, ono što je bitno je da nisu na istoj strani sa Jovom Levica u Srbiji i svetu - Page 19 1861198401

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Post by boomer crook Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:12 am

ajmo jos malo da mutimo vodu

https://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/1960s/1968/no-770-october-1968/why-socialists-oppose-the-vietcong/?fbclid=IwAR2jm8mQ7ycYwW7KqIpi-C_GiqpqmeU0wgAqe87hXDkG-wFIPAcmzgTd3G4

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And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started

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Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:26 am

Meni je najsmešnije od svega to što se sve ovo već desilo.

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Post by boomer crook Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:06 am

ALL THIS HAPPENED BEFORE...

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