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    Post by Guest Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:17 pm

    A top Turkish court ruled Friday that the 1934 conversion of the Hagia Sophia into a museum was unlawful.

    It canceled a 1934 cabinet decision and ruled that the UNESCO World Heritage site should be reopened to Muslim worship.

    The decision was in line with the Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s calls to turn the site into a mosque despite international criticism. The United States and Orthodox Christian leaders are among those that have not approved of the decision.

    Soon after the ruling, Erdogan signed a decree to open the Hagia Sophia as a mosque.

    "The decision was taken to hand over the management of the Ayasofya Mosque ... to the Direcorate of Religious Affairs and open it for worship," the decision signed by Erdogan said.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:27 pm

    Smrt kemalizma i simbolicno
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    Post by Guest Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:26 pm

    https://twitter.com/aylajean/status/1281652764632731648

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    Turkey's Erdogan says first Muslim prayers at #HagiaSophia will be on July 24 time after he decreed it will be mosque again today. Says now free to enter. "Like all of our mosques it will be open to all visitors, foreign & Turkish" he says & urges crowds to not rush monument #now

    Erdogan reiterates decision on #HagiaSophia is Turkey's sovereign choice & urges rest of world to respect its independence. Their concern should be about anti-Islam sentiment and xenophobia he says.

    Preparation to transform 6th-C monument into mosque will take 6 months he says

    Erdogan quotes in Persian Sultan Mehmet who conquered Istanbul after he took Hagia Sophia & is speaking in front of the 15th century sultan's decree that made church a mosque.

    "I believe we have done an important service to our people by opening Hagia Sophia to prayer" he says

    Erdogan says an unparalleled 435 churches & synagogues still function in Muslim Turkey, showing Islam's tolerance of other faiths.

    Turks' contributions to #HagiaSophia in 500 years it was mosque are important as its construction as a church 1500 years ago, he says.
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    Post by Janko Suvar Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:29 pm

    ja jako malo znam o turskoj politici, jel ima neki dnevno politicki razlog za ovo, ili mu se samo moze?


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    Post by ćaća Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:44 pm

    Janko Suvar wrote:ja jako malo znam o turskoj politici, jel ima neki dnevno politicki razlog za ovo, ili mu se samo moze?

    Izgubio je Istanbul nedavno, rekao bih da konsoliduje svoje pozicije. Takođe, to je dugoročna agenda AKP.
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    Post by boomer crook Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:07 pm

    Janko Suvar wrote:ja jako malo znam o turskoj politici, jel ima neki dnevno politicki razlog za ovo, ili mu se samo moze?

    takodje zna da ce biti tesko to ponovo sekularizovati. doslovce nemoguce bez nasilja. ja mislim da je i on svestan da trci zavrsnicu (relativno govoreci). ovo je njegova preambula.


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    Post by Sotir Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:12 pm

    Са једне стране ми је супер што више нећу морати да плаћам улаз.

    А потез као потез је рекао бих више политички него ствар потребе. Ено је преко пута Плава џамија, и она је углавном празна.
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    Post by boomer crook Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:15 pm

    Sotir wrote:Са једне стране ми је супер што више нећу морати да плаћам улаз.

    А потез као потез је рекао бих више политички него ствар потребе. Ено је преко пута Плава џамија, и она је углавном празна.

    pa re-osmanizacija je AKP program na neki nacin.


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    Post by Guest Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:52 am

    Brat je mio koje vere bio

    Ruska diplomatija ocenila je danas da je prenamena Aja Sofije u Istanbulu iz muzeja u džamiju "unutrašnje pitanje" te zemlje.

    "Smatramo da je to unutrašnje pitanje Turske. Ni mi, niti bio ko, ne treba u to da se meša", rekao je pomoćnik šefa diplomatije Sergej Verhinin, prenosi agencija Ria Novosti.

    Prema njegovim rečima, Rusija ipak ističe važnost te lokacije sa stanovišta svetske kulture i baštine.

    Drugim rečima, nek se Vartolomej žali upravi vodovoda....
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:50 am

    Znaco ludilo: papa protestuje, "treći rim" se pravi blesav Tursko leto - strukture saraja - Page 39 1399639816

    Btw, i Irinej Nebački je poslao neko protestno pismo tj molbu sultanu da to ne radi
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    Post by Sergen Yalçın Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:33 am

    u pravu su rusi.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:39 am

    Mozda su i u pravu al je svejedno pomalo smešno.
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    Post by fikret selimbašić Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:52 am

    Zemara glavni u džematu.



    Ferruh Mustuer je imenovan za prvog imama ponovo otvorene džamije Aja Sofija u Istanbulu.

    Ferruh je inače hafiz Časnog Kur'ana porijeklom iz Bosne i Hercegovine i govori tečnim bosanskim jezikom. Također, navodi se kako često i posjećuje našu državu.
    Podsjetimo, Vrhovni sud Turske poništio je odluku Vijeća ministara iz 1934. kojom je džamija Aja Sofija pretvorena u muzej.


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    Post by Erős Pista Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:29 am

    Bošnjak pobedijo!


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    Post by Sergen Yalçın Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:31 am

    Mór Thököly wrote:Mozda su i u pravu al je svejedno pomalo smešno.

    naprotiv.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:42 am

    Sta, tuzno je? Tursko leto - strukture saraja - Page 39 1399639816
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    Post by Sergen Yalçın Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:23 pm

    ne, ozbiljno i drzavnicki.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:48 pm

    Pa dobro, to je drzava. Jel rekao nesto moskovski patrijarh i cele rusije?
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    Post by Guest Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:57 pm

    Na sajtu R patrijaršije stoji ova izjava


    The transformation of Hagia Sophia in Istanbul into a mosque is ‘a slap in the face of the world Christianity’, Metropolitan Hilarion of Volokolamsk, head of the Moscow Patriarchate department for external church relations (DECR), stated to TASS Russian state news agency.
    ‘The internal political situation in Turkey and the factors that have prompted the Turkish leaders to make such a decision can be given different assessments. But the spiritual and cultural heritage of the whole world should not become a hostage to a current political situation. It is too bad that a political expediency has come out on top of the respect for other religious traditions. The transformation of Hagia Sophia into a mosque is the Turkish leaders’ slap in the face of the Orthodox Church and the whole world Christianity’, His Eminence said to the agency.
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    http://www.patriarchia.ru/en/db/text/5663277.html
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    Post by Sergen Yalçın Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:26 pm

    Mór Thököly wrote:Pa dobro, to je drzava. Jel rekao nesto moskovski patrijarh i cele rusije?

    taj neka ga malo fafa.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:33 pm

    Bendegúz Somogyi wrote:Na sajtu R patrijaršije stoji ova izjava


    The transformation of Hagia Sophia in Istanbul into a mosque is ‘a slap in the face of the world Christianity’, Metropolitan Hilarion of Volokolamsk, head of the Moscow Patriarchate department for external church relations (DECR), stated to TASS Russian state news agency.
    ‘The internal political situation in Turkey and the factors that have prompted the Turkish leaders to make such a decision can be given different assessments. But the spiritual and cultural heritage of the whole world should not become a hostage to a current political situation. It is too bad that a political expediency has come out on top of the respect for other religious traditions. The transformation of Hagia Sophia into a mosque is the Turkish leaders’ slap in the face of the Orthodox Church and the whole world Christianity’, His Eminence said to the agency.
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    http://www.patriarchia.ru/en/db/text/5663277.html

    Aha, propustio sam
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    Post by Ferenc Puskás Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:04 pm

    Gornji turski, a donji kaurski. Mala, ali slatka pobjeda Bosne u vjekovnoj borbi protiv krsta časnog i slobode zlatne.


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    Post by kondo Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:55 pm

    buffalo bill wrote:Brat je mio koje vere bio

    Ruska diplomatija ocenila je danas da je prenamena Aja Sofije u Istanbulu iz muzeja u džamiju "unutrašnje pitanje" te zemlje.

    "Smatramo da je to unutrašnje pitanje Turske. Ni mi, niti bio ko, ne treba u to da se meša", rekao je pomoćnik šefa diplomatije Sergej Verhinin, prenosi agencija Ria Novosti.

    Prema njegovim rečima, Rusija ipak ističe važnost te lokacije sa stanovišta svetske kulture i baštine.

    Drugim rečima, nek se Vartolomej žali upravi vodovoda....

    Eto mu autokefalnost ukrajinske crkve pa nek je zabije u svoje dlakavo imbrosko dupe

    Ovde su se inace lokalci masivno sasrali od ovog pogorsanja oko Kasteloriza, vojska je u stanju pripravnosti na Limnosu. Rekli su rezervistima da ne napustaju ostrvo.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53497741


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    Post by Janko Suvar Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:01 pm

    Marius Lăcătuș wrote:

    Eto mu autokefalnost ukrajinske crkve pa nek je zabije u svoje dlakavo imbrosko dupe
    +1453


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