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    Two Georgian snipers are ready to give a detailed video testimony in Ukrainian court, naming people, who ordered them to shoot both Maidan protesters & government forces during Maidan massacre.
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    Post by Guest Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:46 am

    US officials say lethal weapons headed to Ukraine

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Ukraine will soon have more lethal American-made weapons to help it fight Russian-backed separatists.

    U.S. officials said Friday that the Trump administration approved a plan to provide lethal weapons to Ukraine, in a long-awaited move that deepens America’s involvement in the military conflict and may further strain relations with Russia.

    The new arms include American-made Javelin anti-tank missiles that Ukraine has long sought to boost its defenses against Russian-backed separatists armed with tanks that have rolled through eastern Ukraine during violence that has killed more than 10,000 since 2014. Previously, the U.S. has provided Ukraine with support equipment and training, and has let private companies sell some small arms like rifles.

    The officials describing the plan weren’t authorized to discuss it publicly and demanded anonymity.


    The move is likely to become another sore point between Washington and Moscow, as President Donald Trump contends with ongoing questions about whether he’s too hesitant to confront the Kremlin. Ukraine accuses Russia of sending the tanks, and the U.S. says Moscow is arming, training and fighting alongside the separatists.

    Trump had been considering the plan for some time after the State Department and the Pentagon signed off earlier this year. President Barack Obama also considered sending lethal weapons to Ukraine, but left office without doing so.

    The State Department, responsible for overseeing foreign military sales, would not confirm that anti-tank missiles or other lethal weapons would be sent. But in a statement late Friday, State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert said the U.S. had decided to provide “enhanced defensive capabilities” to help Ukraine build its military long-term, defend its sovereignty and “deter further aggression.”

    “U.S. assistance is entirely defensive in nature, and as we have always said, Ukraine is a sovereign country and has a right to defend itself,” Nauert said.


    The White House’s National Security Council declined to comment. Russia’s embassy in Washington did not immediately respond to a request for comment late Friday.

    Although the portable Javelin anti-tank missiles can kill, proponents for granting them to Ukraine have long argued they are considered “defensive” because the Ukrainians would use them to defend their territory and deter the Russians, not to attack a foreign country or seize new territory.

    Under law, the State Department must tell Congress of planned foreign military sales, triggering a review period in which lawmakers can act to stop the sale. It was unclear whether the administration had formally notified Congress, but lawmakers are unlikely to try to block it given that Democrats and Republicans alike have long called on the government to take the step.

    The move comes as the United States and European nations struggle to break a long logjam in the Ukraine-Russia conflict that erupted three years ago when fighting broke out between Russian-backed separatists and government troops in the east. France, Russia and Germany brokered a peace arrangement in 2015 that has lowered violence but not stopped it, and a political settlement outlined in the deal hadn’t been fully implemented.

    In recent days, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has warned that violence is up about 60 percent this year. In Europe earlier this month, Tillerson called Russia’s involvement the biggest tension point between the former Cold War rivals.

    “It stands as the single most difficult obstacle to us renormalizing the relationship with Russia, which we badly would like to do,” Tillerson said.


    The intensified support for Ukraine’s military also comes amid early discussions about sending U.N. peacekeepers to eastern Ukraine, to improve security conditions not only for Ukrainians but for special monitors from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe who are on the ground in Ukraine.

    The U.S. and other nations were cautiously optimistic when Russian President Vladimir Putin proposed to send in peacekeepers. But there are major disagreements about how and where the peacekeepers would operate, especially about whether they’d be deployed only on the “line of conflict” between separatists and the government.

    Both the Obama administration and the Trump administration had expressed concerns in the past that injecting more weapons into the conflict was unlikely to resolve it, especially considering that Russia is well-equipped to respond to any Ukrainian escalation with an even stronger escalation of its own. Sending lethal weapons to Ukraine also creates the troubling possibility that American arms could kill Russian soldiers, a situation that could thrust the two nuclear-armed nations closer to direct confrontation.

    The United States, under Obama, also imposed sanctions on Russia for its invasion and annexation of Crimea. The Trump administration has insisted those sanctions will stay in place until Moscow gives up the Crimean Peninsula.


    https://www.apnews.com/71fd3f8ee74f488fb788accf1e7978e4/US-officials-say-lethal-weapons-headed-to-Ukraine
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    Post by паће Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:18 am

    Gargantua wrote:
    US officials say lethal weapons headed to Ukraine

    Ајде. А ово досад што је било, то је испаљивало пампуре?


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    Post by Filipenko Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:41 am

    Ne verujem da si kompetentan da o tome pričaš, sačekaj da dođe No Country, pošto se on informiše o ovakvim stvarima na kvalitetan, racionalan i odgovoran način. Rat u Ukrajini - Page 26 2952840586
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    Post by Filipenko Sun Dec 24, 2017 5:36 am

    "Dopuštamo im sve jer su protiv Rusije," u najkraćem je priznanje Niki Hejli ovim ludacima koji su je navukli da im priča o Istočnoj Evropi, predstavivši se kao novi premijer Poljske Moravjecki, zabrinut za situaciju u Ukrajini. Ova zahvaljuje što su glasali za Izrael, obećava pomoć, tvrdi da će spustiti Rusiju, obećava pomoć državi Binomo protiv ruskog mešanja u pitanja južnokineskog mora (!!!?), pričaju o seksualnom manijaku Kevinu Spejsiju koji dira Porošenka za kolena i tako dalje...


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    Post by Guest Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:21 pm

    Facebook Reveals Serbian Fighters’ Role in Ukraine War
    http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/facebook-reveals-serbian-fighters-role-in-ukraine-war-12-25-2017
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    Post by disident Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:59 am

    Iz kolekcije opskurni hitovi pokraj ibarske dok ubijam smenu i pitam se koji kurac sa zivotom(svojim)



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    Post by Guest Sat Dec 30, 2017 8:17 am

    jebo im mater baja mali tompson
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    Post by disident Sat Dec 30, 2017 8:27 am

    Vidim da ti se ne bi svidela ppp zurka  Rat u Ukrajini - Page 26 2304934895


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:08 am

    bez veze ko i original. okacicu (mislim) glavni hit na predmetnom topiku
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    Post by Nino Quincampoix Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:14 am

    jbg, nema tu emocije kao u originalu
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    Post by Filipenko Mon Jan 01, 2018 2:15 pm

    Rodjendan legendarnog evropeizatora Ukrajine!

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    Post by Guest Mon Jan 01, 2018 2:26 pm

    ustaše
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    Post by Filipenko Mon Jan 01, 2018 2:31 pm

    šetaše
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    Post by Zuper Mon Jan 01, 2018 2:35 pm

    Obama pogurase.

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    Post by Zuper Mon Jan 01, 2018 2:46 pm

    Kako Poljaci gledaju na sve to?
    Njih su dobro tamanili po zapadnoj Ukrajini...
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    Post by Filipenko Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:15 pm

    Sve je dobro dok je protiv Rusa, cak i Gitler.
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    Post by Filipenko Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:30 am

    Hm, meni po ovim snimcima deluje da eksplozije dolaze iznutra, a ne da artiljerija pogadja kuce. Naravno, moze biti da se varam, ali deluje mi fejk.
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    Post by Guest Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:33 pm

    evo i u kijevu akcija trojkom protiv droge, mozda od njih ministar prosvete cuo 


    https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-azov-right-wing-militia-to-patrol-kyiv/29008036.html
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    Post by Guest Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:32 am

    Sakašvili otet ili uhapšen: Muškarci ga strpali u kombi

    Kijev -- Bivši gruzijski predsednik Mihail Sakašvili koji je i lider ukrajinskog Pokreta novih snaga, priveden je danas u Kijevu.
    Izvor: B92, Tanjug ponedeljak, 12.02.2018. | 14:41 -> 15:26


    "Mihail Sakašvili otet je danas iz restorana Suluguni nedaleko od prostorija naše stranke", rekla je njegova portparolka Tatjana Bagranovskaja za Tass, dodavši da je nasilno ubačen u beli kombi i odveden na nepoznatu destinaciju.

    Ona je rekla i da su ljudi koji su priveli Sakašvilija su bili u maskirnim uniformama i da se nisu predstavili.

    Podasetimo, u decembru prošle godine policija je pokušala dva puta da uhapsi Sakašvilija. Prvi put im je n pobegao na krov zgrade u kojoj je živeo i preti da će se ubiti skokom.

    Drugi put su ga ukrajinski policajci pokušali uhapsiti u grupi demonstranata među šatorima, koji su protestanti postavili u Kijevu u znak podrške Sakašviliju.

    Služba bezbednosti Ukrajine (SBU) saopštila je ranije da je Sakašvili optužen za saučesništvo u kriminalnoj grupi. Pre toga je Sakašvilijev advokat Pavel Bogomazov rekao da je njegov klijent optužen za pokušaj rušenja ukrajinskih vlasti.

    Sakašvili je ranije izjavio da je spreman da, ako treba, povede novu ukrajinsku vladu.


    Саакашвили вылетел в Польшу - СМИ
    17:10, 12 февраля 2018

    Политик улетел чартерным рейсом около 16:00 по киевскому времени.

    Лидер "Руху новых сил" Михеил Саакашвили, задержанный накануне, вылетел в Польшу 12 февраля около 16:00. Об этом сообщают источники ТСН.uа. По их данным, политик улетел чартерным рейсом около 16:00 по киевскому времени.

    Источники также сообщают, что это не депортация, а реадмиссия - возвращение нелегала в страну, откуда он нелегально прибыл. Как сообщал УНИАН, соратник Саакашвили Давид Сакварелидзе написал в Facebook: "Михаила Саакашвили задержали в ресторане "Сулугуни" (переулок Музейный, 10): три буса "Фольксваген", номерные знаки АА (номер одного из них - АА0121СН). Все едем туда!".

    Подробности читайте на УНИАН: https://www.unian.net/politics/2392263-saakashvili-vyiletel-v-polshu-smi.html
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    Post by паће Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:40 am

    Sakašvili je ranije izjavio da je spreman da, ako treba, povede novu ukrajinsku vladu.

    Куд да их поведе, на вечеру?

    Не верујем да су Украјинци посебно одушевљени идејом да над главом имају Грузина. Прошли пут није било баш славно.


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    Post by Filipenko Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:40 am

    Da su pametni Rusi, iskoristili bi tu svinjariju sa Sakasvilijem i Potrosenkom da ga likvidiraju preko nekog od agenata u Ukrajini. To samo govori da nemaju nikoga ko uopste promislja o bilo cemu, kao i da su nesposobni da iskoriste iznenada ukazane prilike, i zato su i izgubili Ukrajinu od SSA.
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    Post by Guest Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:41 am

    Po-ljak gra-dom neće šetati, neće šetati!

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    Post by Filipenko Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:47 am

    Demokratija na delu.

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