Rat u Ukrajini

fikret selimbašić wrote:

Filipenko wrote:

Alo, digli su u vazduh infrastrukturni objekat, ne mozes to da zamazes jeftinim pricama "nema tu sta posebno da se obrazlaze", "nema potrebe za raspravom", "svakako bi se desilo" itd. Ni mi nismo gledali RTS niti mu narocito verovali, pa opet nije smeo Nato da ga bombarduje niti nam je drago zbog toga. Ovo je ujedno odgovor i za onu glupost o tzv. tomosu gore.

Uvijek mogu da kažu kako su diverzijju izveli ukrajinski diverzanti kao odmazdu za rusko uništavanje Ukrajine. A ovi mogu i da se javno pohvale tim, čak i da intervjuišu navodne diverzante sa blurovanim licima i metalizovanim glasom.

Ti mene biolaboratorijom, ja tebe diverzijom na gasovodu.


Da ne bude zabune, ja sam prilično uvjeren da je to miniranje američko-poljska ujdurma i da to Nijemci dobro znaju jer je jedan od ciljeva diverzije bio disciplinovanje i vraćanje u sur Njemačke.

WASHINGTON — New intelligence reviewed by U.S. officials suggests that a pro-Ukrainian group carried out the attack on the Nord Stream pipelines last year, a step toward determining responsibility for an act of sabotage that has confounded investigators on both sides of the Atlantic for months.

U.S. officials said that they had no evidence President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine or his top lieutenants were involved in the operation, or that the perpetrators were acting at the direction of any Ukrainian government officials.

Bjelorusija je u utorak privela "terorista" i više od 20 suučesnika koji su radili s ukrajinskim i američkim obavještajnim službama na pokušaju sabotaže bjeloruske zračne baze, prenijela je novinska agencija Belta izjavu bjeloruskog predsjednika Aleksandra Lukašenka.
Bjeloruski antivladini aktivisti priopćili su prošlog mjeseca da su raznijeli sofisticirane ruske vojne nadzorne zrakoplove u napadu dronova na aerodrom blizu bjeloruskog glavnog grada, a tu tvrdnju osporavaju Moskva i Minsk.
"Sigurnosna služba Ukrajine, uz vodstvo CIA -e, iza zatvorenih vrata, provode operaciju protiv Republike Bjelorusije. Terorist je bio obučen", rekao je Lukašenko, prenijela je novinska agencija Belta.
Lukašenko je rekao da je zrakoplov pretrpio samo površinsku štetu u napadu izvedenog pomoću "malog drona", izvijestila je Belta.

Osumnjičeni, koji je pritvoren zbog napada na zrakoplov Beriev A-50, rusko-ukrajinski je državljanin, prenijela je Belta izjavu bjeloruskog predsjednika. Do sad je uhićeno više od 20 osoba povezanih s incidentom, a ostali osumnjičeni još uvijek se skrivaju u inozemstvu, dodao je.

Mór Thököly wrote:Srpski aksiom glasi da se mnogo lakse i brze asfaltira nego gradi zeleznica 

During their investigations into the explosions on the Nord Stream 1 and 2 gas pipelines, the [German] federal prosecutor's office had a suspicious ship searched in January. As the authority has now announced, there is a suspicion that the ship could have been used to transport explosive devices that exploded on September 26, 2022 on the pipelines in the Baltic Sea. The evaluation of the seized traces and objects is ongoing.

Christiansø's administrator confirms to @berlingske that the police arrived in January to investigate a boat that may have arrived in mid-September. This indicates that DK is involved in the investigation trail described by German media yesterday

West kept schtum on the Nord Stream attack to protect Ukraine
A week after the Nord Stream pipeline exploded, staff at a Scandinavian delegation in Brussels walked out of their embassy intelligence briefing, impressed by the level of detail they had received so soon after the attack.
It hadn’t been carried out by the Americans, the Russians or the Poles, their intelligence service apparently told them, but by a private venture originating in Ukraine. They were told this would not be made public and to deflect any questions about why the official investigation into the destruction of the Russo-German pipeline was moving so slowly.
The name of the suspected private sponsor, a Ukrainian not affiliated with President Zelensky’s government, has been circulating in intelligence circles for months but not revealed.
Nato officials, it appears, wanted to protect Ukraine from a public spat with Germany, which had been dragging its heels over whether to deliver vital military aid, including Leopard 2 tanks and IRIS-T air defence systems.
This is only fair — they likely knew who was responsible before the presidential administration or the defence ministry in Kyiv, who have been blindsided by the report and furiously deny involvement.
Such sympathy bodes well for continued backing from Nato governments to Kyiv as it tries to hold off a relentless Russian offensive in the Donbas and recover lands lost to the invaders. However, public opinion is a more fickle thing, and in Germany support for arming Ukraine is already on a knife edge.
The idea of Ukrainians driving a vehicle laden with explosives through Poland to launch an attack on a German pipeline from German soil will particularly grate on the German public.
Confusion over the relationship between Zelensky’s government and the saboteurs will breed suspicion. It will embolden those in Germany who are pressuring Olaf Scholz, the chancellor, to curtail military aid, and ultimately harm Ukraine.
That is presumably not the intent of the influential figure suspected to have bankrolled such a sophisticated operation from his own pocket — involving a yacht, elite divers, forged passports and the procurement of shaped explosive charges only available to the gas and oil industry with a specific licence and at great cost.
His name will surely appear eventually, particularly given that he appears to have left a peculiar calling card. Ukraine’s relationship with its allies will fare better if the individual comes clean.

Breaking News: The Pentagon is blocking the U.S. from sharing evidence on Russian atrocities in Ukraine with the International Criminal Court, officials said. Military leaders fear setting a precedent that might pave the way for it to prosecute Americans. https://t.co/xnHCjkkZnK

— The New York Times (@nytimes) March 8, 2023