Postoji neko iskustvo stečeno u ratovima koje kaže da na svakog mrtvog dodje toliko ranjenih. Koliko je to u ovom slučaju, da li 1:3 ili 1:5 ili slično, nije poznato ni pouzdano, ali svakako nije 1:100.kondo wrote:a pa ovo 200,000 su ranjeni i poneki mrtav rujo
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"Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."
“Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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Izvor je Tresko, politički analitičar sa PPPa.rumbeando wrote:kondo wrote:25,000 mrtvih američkih vojnika u avganistu? kako to, otkad to?
Ne barataš baš najbolje engleskim.
casualty (INJURED) /ˈkæʒ.ju.əl.ti/
noun [C]
a person injured or killed in a serious accident or war
Nego, kamo izvor za tih navodnih 8:1 u zadnje vreme?
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"Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."
“Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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kraći bi bio spisak What Russia Did Not Get WrongNotxor wrote:Solidan pregled rata i perspektiva
What Russia Got Wrong
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https://tass.com/world/1573519NEW YORK, February 8. /TASS/. US journalist Seymour Hersh on Wednesday reaffirmed the credibility of the source that provided him with the data to corroborate a story on US involvement in the sabotage of the Nord Stream pipelines.
"It's somebody who seems to know quite a bit about what was going on," Hersh told TASS. "I can't name people obviously."
He said when writing the story he reached out to a CIA spokesman. The journalist said he believes the US administration will probably deny its involvement in the sabotage.
"I'm sure that some of the White House would have liked Mr. Burns do the denial," he said.
According to the article that was published on Wednesday, explosives under the Russian Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines were planted by US Navy divers under the guise of the Baltops exercise in June. The story is citing an unidentified source with direct knowledge of the operational planning as saying that US president Joe Biden personally authorized the operation.
Adrienne Watson, a spokesperson for the National Security Council at the White House, responded to a request for comment from TASS that the story laid out by Hersh was totally false and complete fiction.
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Vilmos Tehenészfiú wrote:Postoji neko iskustvo stečeno u ratovima koje kaže da na svakog mrtvog dodje toliko ranjenih. Koliko je to u ovom slučaju, da li 1:3 ili 1:5 ili slično, nije poznato ni pouzdano, ali svakako nije 1:100.kondo wrote:a pa ovo 200,000 su ranjeni i poneki mrtav rujo
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Da, s time sto je taj odnos kod Rusa verovatno vise 1 poginuo na 2 ranjena, a kod Ukrajinaca 1:5. Odakle to znamo?
Kljuc je kako je organizovana prva pomoc kod Ukrajinaca, gusca je cak i od NATO standarda, i koriste uglavno zapadnu opremu - posebno za prvih 45min sto je kljucno. Plus, imaju mnogo bolju obuku u tom pogledu od ruske vojske cisto kad se gledaju mnogi snimci evakuacije i uopste tipa akcije u koje ih salju.
Recimo, kad napadas mesecima oko Bahmuta, mnogo je teze izvrsiti evakuaciju na vreme nego kad branis posto su rute za evakuaciju branilaca jasnije i organizovanije. To su basics i na osnovu toga se dosta dobro moze oceniti ko ima vece gubitke. Da ne govorimo o cinjenici da napadac uvek ima vece gubitke kad je rat ovako statican a branioci imaju sve vise preciznijeg i modernijeg naoruzanja, premoc u dronovima, itd.
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https://www.bruegel.org/policy-brief/european-union-gas-survival-plan-2023Preparing for the next winter: Europe’s gas outlook for 2023, 2.2.2023.
The European Union has so far weathered the energy crisis brought on by Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in February 2022 and will manage winter 2022/23 even if Russia abruptly halts all pipeline gas flows. However, preparations must be made for winter 2023-24. In particular, gas storage facilities should be 90 percent full by 1 October 2023.
We assess the demand reduction needed if the 90 percent storage target is to be achieved. Our assessment takes into account EU imports, exports to refill gas storage facilities in Ukraine and Moldova, the weather and the situation in power markets, where gas demand is highly dependent on non-gas energy sources. Assuming limited Russian exports continue, and weather conditions are typical, demand up to 1 October 2023 must remain 13 percent lower than the previous five-year average. The EU should therefore extend its demand-reduction target, which is currently set to expire on 31 March 2023.
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Ukrainian report form the Bakhmut "meat grinder":
— AZ (@AZgeopolitics) February 5, 2023
According to the journalist sources the life expectancy of a Ukrainian fresher there is just 4 hours. The Ukrainian official doubts, hesitates a few seconds and mumbles his opinion as an excuse. pic.twitter.com/UNPOw5R1EC
200 = poginuli
300 = ranjeni
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"If Russia invades, that means tanks or troops crossing the border of Ukraine again, then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it." When asked how, the president says, "I promise you, we will be able do that."
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Дакле, волео бих да се ЈСД Партизан угаси, али не и да сви (или било који) гробар умре.
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Elon Musk's SpaceX firm bars Kyiv from using Starlink tech for drone control https://t.co/1xoEjHnRQR
— BBC News (World) (@BBCWorld) February 9, 2023
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kondo wrote:jao pa kako smo ovo zaboravili
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/02/07/remarks-by-president-biden-and-chancellor-scholz-of-the-federal-republic-of-germany-at-press-conference/PRESIDENT BIDEN: The first question first. If Germany — if Russia invades — that means tanks or troops crossing the — the border of Ukraine again — then there will be — we — there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.
Q But how will you — how will you do that exactly, since the project and control of the project is within Germany’s control?
PRESIDENT BIDEN: We will — I promise you, we’ll be able to do it.
CHANCELLOR SCHOLZ: (As interpreted.) Thank you very much for your question. I want to be absolutely clear: We have intensively prepared everything to be ready with the necessary sanctions if there is a military aggression against Ukraine.
And this is necessary. It is necessary that we do this in advance so that Russia can clearly understand that these are far-reaching, severe measures.
It is part of this process that we do not spell out everything in public because Russia could understand that there might be even more to come. And, at the same time, it is very clear we are well prepared with far-reaching measures. We will take these measures together with our Allies, with our partners, with the U.S., and we will take all necessary steps. You can be sure that there won’t be any measures in which we have a differing approach. We will act together jointly.
(Speaks in English.) And possibly this is a good idea to say to our American friends: We will be united, we will act together, and we will take all the necessary steps. And all the necessary steps will be done by all of us together.
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Дакле, волео бих да се ЈСД Партизан угаси, али не и да сви (или било који) гробар умре.
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SCOOP: Ukraine requires coordinates provided or confirmed by the U.S. and its allies for the vast majority of strikes using its advanced U.S.-provided rocket systems, revealing a deeper and more operationally active role for the Pentagon in the war.https://t.co/yDkKD6Xv9A
— Dan Lamothe (@DanLamothe) February 9, 2023
One senior Ukrainian official said Ukrainian forces almost never launch the weapons without coordinates provided by the U.S. military from a base elsewhere in Europe. Ukrainian officials say this should give Washington confidence about providing Kyiv with longer-range weapons.
— Dan Lamothe (@DanLamothe) February 9, 2023
A senior U.S. official acknowledged the key American role in the campaign and said that the targeting assistance served to ensure accuracy and conserve limited stores of ammunition for maximum effectiveness.
— Dan Lamothe (@DanLamothe) February 9, 2023
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Ne verujem da će im još uvek to dati
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Дакле, волео бих да се ЈСД Партизан угаси, али не и да сви (или било који) гробар умре.
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https://t.co/CljQIIQCY6
— Felix Light (@felix_light) February 9, 2023
Interesting: Yevgeny Prigozhin says this morning that his Wagner Group is no longer recruiting prisoners to fight in Ukraine. No information at all given as to why.
Also worth noting that the Russian penal service's January report showed the prison population more or less stable since November, compared to a historic drop in Aug-Nov. Looks like convict recruitment ground to a halt.https://t.co/lq2s7SX9R3
— Felix Light (@felix_light) February 9, 2023
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Predsednik Ukrajine Vladimir Zelenski priznao je da je ranije sam izjavio da se Minski sporazumi ne mogu ispuniti i da on ne planira da ih ispunjava.
"Što se tiče ‘Minska’ u celini, rekao sam Emanuelu Makronu i Angeli Merkel: nećemo moći da ga realizujemo", rekao je Zelenski u intervjuu za "Špigel".
Prema rečima Zelenskog, istu stvar rekao je i predsedniku Rusije Vladimiru Putinu na prvom i poslednjem sastanku sa njim u normandijskom formatu 2019. godine.
"Rekao sam mu isto što i ovima dvoma. Oni su bili iznenađeni i odgovorili: Da smo znali ranije da ćete promeniti smisao našeg sastanka, bilo bi problema i pre samita", dodao je Zelenski.
On je dodao da je ukrajinska strana koristila sporazum samo za razmenu ratnih zarobljenika.
Početkom decembra, Merkelova je izjavila da su Minski sporazumi bili pokušaj da se Kijevu pruži vreme za jačanje.
Odmah za njom to je potvrdio i bivši francuski predsednik Fransoa Oland.
Prema njegovim rečima, tadašnja geopolitička situacija nije išla u korist Ukrajine, a Zapadu je bila potrebna pauza.
Ruski predsednik Vladimir Putin prokomentarisao je da je izjava Merkelove za njega iznenađujuća i razočaravajuća.
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MNE wrote:kraći bi bio spisak What Russia Did Not Get WrongNotxor wrote:Solidan pregled rata i perspektiva
What Russia Got Wrong
Naravno, ali je i redosled bitan (a i o tome je tekst).
Zato upravo sad rade ono što je trebalo da bude broj 1, a to je uništavanje električne (i svake druge) infrastrukture.
A sad kad je objavljeno da Amerikanci usmeravaju američke rakete ka ruskim ciljevima zanima me koji će biti ruski odgovor, odnosno da li će ga autsorsovati.
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https://samf.substack.com/p/the-storm-before-the-calm
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ja se rukovodim logikom gvozdenih determinizama
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ah, RTS 1999. i Rusija koja svaki dan okreće rakete prema Americi i prosječan Srbin koji zamišlja desetoricu Rusa kako vezuju konop za lanser i okreću ga nekudaNotxor wrote:MNE wrote:
kraći bi bio spisak What Russia Did Not Get Wrong
Naravno, ali je i redosled bitan (a i o tome je tekst).
Zato upravo sad rade ono što je trebalo da bude broj 1, a to je uništavanje električne (i svake druge) infrastrukture.
A sad kad je objavljeno da Amerikanci usmeravaju američke rakete ka ruskim ciljevima zanima me koji će biti ruski odgovor, odnosno da li će ga autsorsovati.
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Tj. da koordinate ciljeva daju Ameri, da su rakete američke, a da Volodimir samo pritiska dugme.
jeste WP
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/02/09/ukraine-himars-rocket-artillery-russia/
a ima i još
NATIONAL SECURITY
Pentagon looks to restart top-secret programs in Ukraine
If approved, the move would authorize U.S. Special Operations troops to employ Ukrainian operatives to observe Russian movements and counter disinformation
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/02/10/us-special-operations-ukraine-surrogate-program/
mali podsetnik
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