Rat u Ukrajini

Solus_Rex wrote:

Не би тако писао да се разумеш макар мало у Русију и руску културу.

Upoznajemo se polagano:

Spoiler:

Јанош Винету wrote:Импресивно, али још је импресивније да ти није дошло у главу да је ово рат геноцидног истребљења.
Украјинска култура ће престати да постоји тамо докле дође руска чизма.

Sotir wrote:

Јанош Винету wrote:Импресивно, али још је импресивније да ти није дошло у главу да је ово рат геноцидног истребљења.
Украјинска култура ће престати да постоји тамо докле дође руска чизма.

Говориш о оним областима где се претежно говори руски, који је забрањиван и потискиван претходних година.

hocu da kazem to su ruzne stvari ali ne znace da je ukrajina fasisticka drzava, nepostojeca, genocidna i da je ovo jedino resenje da se obezbeidodatna zastita rusofonom stanovnistvu. s druge strane rusija je vise puta u istoriji sprovodila politiku rusifikacije ukrajine (poljske, finske, baltickih zemalja...). 

Sotir wrote:Бумеру,

hocu da kazem to su ruzne stvari ali ne znace da je ukrajina fasisticka drzava, nepostojeca, genocidna i da je ovo jedino resenje da se obezbeidodatna zastita rusofonom stanovnistvu. s druge strane rusija je vise puta u istoriji sprovodila politiku rusifikacije ukrajine (poljske, finske, baltickih zemalja...). 

Скрећеш са теме. Питање је да ли је ова операција спровођење некаквог геноцида (што се узгред буди речено још није десило) над украјинским идентитетом - тамо где је он на силу наметан (што се дешава већ годинама) . Таква констатација је једна велика замена теза.

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Under criticism from humanitarian organizations for not having done enough to protect civilians in combat zones, Kyiv is undertaking what Deputy Prime Minister Iryna Vereshchuk has described as “the biggest movement of people in the history of the independent Ukrainian state.” Unable to provide security or essential services for nearly 750,000 people in areas where the fighting is fiercest, the government now insists they should move.  

More than 12 million Ukrainians have been displaced by the war, most of them within the country. The government says it expects another 220,000 to evacuate from Donetsk region in east Ukraine before winter. Vereshchuk, who is also the minister for reintegration of temporarily occupied territories, says the evacuation order will be extended to another 500,000 people in areas occupied by Russia or at risk of being so in the regions of Kherson, Zaporizhzhia and Kharkiv.

The mandatory evacuation order marks a departure for Kyiv. Since Russia first invaded eastern Ukraine in 2014, residents of occupied or threatened regions were given little instructions or support to leave, or support for the delivery of essential services like water and transport. “People were left alone with their problems,” said Volodymyr Yavorskyy from the Centre for Civil Liberties, a human rights watchdog.

But the shift in policy is controversial, particularly in light of forced deportations of Ukrainians by Russia. Under international law, governments are obliged to do their best to provide essential services during war time; inform citizens of potential dangers; and only move populations if forced by security or military reasons.

“I don’t think [mandatory evacuation is] a very good solution,” said Yavorskyy. “But we have to be clear that actually it’s not forced — people have a choice.” Earlier this month, the international human rights watchdog Amnesty International issued a controversial report, accusing the Ukrainian government of not doing enough to move people away from urban areas and civilian buildings where the armed forces base themselves.

Vereshchuk has framed the evacuation order not as a requirement that people leave their homes, but as the right of citizens to be provided with transport out of danger, financial aid and accommodation in safer areas. Evacuees are given 2,000-3,000 Ukrainian hryvnia (about €50-€80) on arrival, and registered as internally displaced persons to be eligible for continued monthly payments. Under the new rules, those who refuse to leave will be required to sign a paper saying they understand the risks and take responsibility for themselves and their dependents.

The deputy prime minister has also called on organizations providing assistance near the front line to ask themselves if the help they’re providing encourages people to remain in danger. “I want people to leave and get help here, instead of there,” Vereshchuk told POLITICO. “If they are brought blankets and water and filters, that won’t save them in the winter. No blanket or warm pillow will help them.”

Vitaly Barabash, the mayor of Avdiivka, a frontline city since 2014, believes the government could go further. Though he has tried to persuade people to leave since late February, some 2,500 residents — about 10 percent of the municipality’s population — including up to 80 children, are still hiding from shelling in basements with no ventilation, lighting or heating.

“I’d even do forced evacuations for communities like ours,” Barabash said. “A state of war implies limits on rights — it’s war. It shouldn’t go to crazy limits, but to a certain extent you have to take decisions for people. Especially where children are concerned.”
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https://www.politico.eu/article/biggest-movement-history-ukraine-evacuation-frontline-russia-war/

Ukraine battles to avoid hyperinflation as war costs soar. @WorldBank predicted 55% of Ukrainians will be living in poverty by end 2023, compared w/ 2.5% before the conflict. [Ukraine is insolvent & unclear how long they can finance the govt] https://t.co/75fpUW0ge1 Via @dwnews

— Cate Long (@cate_long) August 23, 2022

It's insane that this huge story is only given attention by hard-left, niche groups (notable exception @opendemocracyru). workers' rights have been decimated. This is a story about the vast majority of Ukrainians, their rights and democracy. It should be covered everywhere. https://t.co/Omm8QYQhsX

— Almut Rochowanski (@rochowanski) August 23, 2022

Almost the entire European continent is now operating at electricity prices above EUR 600/MWh

This is roughly equivalent to $1000 (!) per barrel of oil

The last decade average cost of electricity was in the EUR 20-30/MWh range

Not sure a few hikes are going to fix the EUR here pic.twitter.com/4MoYU0fK2a

— Alf (@MacroAlf) August 23, 2022

OOPS! German benchmark electricity price jumped >25% on Monday to pass €700 per megawatt-hour for the first time. The level is about 14 times the seasonal average over the past five years. pic.twitter.com/gMQZkk7ncB

— Holger Zschaepitz (@Schuldensuehner) August 22, 2022

Energy bills [in the UK] are already at their highest levels in at least half a century and are set to nearly triple by early next year, reaching well over £5,000 for the average household. (...)
Rising bills will push two-thirds of UK households into fuel poverty by January 2023.