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    Post by Guest Sun Apr 03, 2022 1:12 pm

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    Post by bela maca Sun Apr 03, 2022 1:12 pm

    nije mi dobro od ove slike


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    Post by паће Sun Apr 03, 2022 1:13 pm

    bela maca wrote:nije mi dobro od ove slike

    Зипо ко зипо, имао сам, ништа нарочито.


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    Post by Del Cap Sun Apr 03, 2022 1:14 pm

    razna osint forenzika



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    Post by boomer crook Sun Apr 03, 2022 1:18 pm

    ono ko kad kalajic objasnjava zabarskoj grofici kako lesevi na sebi imaju znamenje dvoglavog orla a to je haram za muslimane da nose.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sun Apr 03, 2022 1:21 pm

    Del Cap wrote:razna osint forenzika



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    Sad mi treba originalan snimak
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    Post by boomer crook Sun Apr 03, 2022 1:23 pm

    ma sta ti je? kao da nema dovoljno leseva da ih razbacaju uz put nego moraju da glume mrtvace a kao istovremeno azovci prave pulp fiction bring out the gimp lagume zbog ludila.


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    And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sun Apr 03, 2022 1:28 pm

    Kod prvog se pomera ruka. 

    Sto ne mora nista da znaci. 

    Ljudi koji ranjeni leze ne znaju koja vojska prolazi.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sun Apr 03, 2022 1:29 pm

    Hocu da kazem, mozda se neko pravio mrtav.

    Treba videti posle koliko su tu usli. Ako je posle 2 sata ok, ako je posle 24h onda jbg
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    Post by boomer crook Sun Apr 03, 2022 1:35 pm

    ma nema potrebe da se laze. to je kao kada se srpsksa strana pretvarala u dzimija kokrana oko svake ispaljene granate na sarajevo.


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    Post by boomer crook Sun Apr 03, 2022 1:36 pm

    hocu da kazem ovo je rat i ovo su njegove posledice: unisteni zivoti, spaljene kuce i raseljeni ljudi.


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    And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sun Apr 03, 2022 1:40 pm

    Pa nije mi pretpostavka prva da lazu, jer zaista nema.potrebe, ima sasvim "dovoljno" autenticnih pobijenih. Pokusavam da pohvatam sta je u pitanju. Mislim, gledao sam ono o Irpinu dok su se jos vodile borbe, jasno je da su neki broj stanovnika pobili jer eto tako.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sun Apr 03, 2022 1:51 pm

    Ovaj covek na 0:47 meni izgleda kao da se pomera i dok ga prvi put snimaju, ne samo u retrovizoru. 

    Recimo covek na 1:03, ovaj bliži, je počivši 100%
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    Post by Del Cap Sun Apr 03, 2022 1:57 pm

    ne moramo da fantaziramo pobijene ljude, kao fenomen i deo rata; da li je konkretan događaj baš to je više do političke implikacije nego do forenzike. sve i da je namontiran snimak sa x leševa, to znači da se gradi konkretan slučaj, ne znači da nema pobijenih civila tu, ili u blizini ili na drugom mestu.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sun Apr 03, 2022 2:00 pm

    Ma ima sigurno. Treba uzeti i obzir i glad, i da je neko tu isplakao slezinu za nekim. To je pakao.
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    Post by Filipenko Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:22 pm

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sun Apr 03, 2022 11:53 pm


    In a shift in policy on Sunday, German politicians have indicated the European Union should consider banning Russian gas due to alleged atrocities committed in Ukraine.

    Defense minister Christine Lambrecht called for sanctions on Russia in an interview on a German television program on Sunday, clips of which were tweeted from the official defense ministry Twitter account.

    The move marks a departure from previous German policy, which tended to oppose such sanctions. Other European officials expressed similar views, with Italian politician Enrico Letta tweeting the same, asking: “How many Bucha before we move to a full oil and gas Russia embargo? Time is over.”

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Apr 04, 2022 1:00 am

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    Post by disident Mon Apr 04, 2022 1:11 am

    Ruski nalozi pisu da su to stanovnici koje je pobila ukrajinska strana kao izdajnike i ruse, kada su povratili kontrolu nad oblascu.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Apr 04, 2022 1:16 am

    Ne znam bas, ako su snimci od 10. pa onda od 31. Na stranu sto je to inace vrlo malo verovatno.
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    Post by disident Mon Apr 04, 2022 1:21 am

    Samo kazem sta je dominanti ruski narativ, a bez ozbiljne medjunarodne istrage tesko da ce se znati istina.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Apr 04, 2022 1:24 am

    Dobro, naravno da mora to.
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    Post by Bleeding Blitva Mon Apr 04, 2022 10:08 am

    Jučerašnji pamflet : https://ria.ru/20220403/ukraina-1781469605.html
    Denazification is necessary when a significant part of the people - most likely the majority - has been mastered and drawn into the Nazi regime in its politics. That is, when the hypothesis "the people are good - the government is bad" does not work. Recognition of this fact is the basis of the policy of denazification, of all its measures, and the fact itself is its subject matter.
    Denazification can only be carried out by the winner, which implies (1) his absolute control over the denazification process and (2) the power to ensure such control. In this respect, a denazified country cannot be sovereign. The denazifying state - Russia - cannot proceed from a liberal approach with regard to denazification. The ideology of the denazifier cannot be disputed by the guilty party subjected to denazification.
    Therefore, denazification cannot be carried out in a compromise, based on a formula like " NATO- no, the EU - yes. "The collective West is itself the designer, source and sponsor of Ukrainian Nazism, while the Western Bandera cadres and their "historical memory" are just one of the tools for the Nazisification of Ukraine. Ukronazism carries not less, but a greater threat world and Russia than the German Nazism of the Hitlerite version.
    Denazification will inevitably also be a de-Ukrainization - a rejection of the large-scale artificial inflation of the ethnic component of self-identification of the population of the territories of historical Little Russia and New Russia, begun by the Soviet authorities. Being an instrument of the communist superpower, after its fall, artificial ethnocentrism did not remain ownerless. In this official capacity, he passed under the authority of another superpower (the power standing over the states) — the superpower of the West. It must be returned to its natural boundaries and deprived of political functionality.
    Unlike, say, Georgia and the Baltic countries , Ukraine, as history has shown, is impossible as a nation state, and attempts to "build" one naturally lead to Nazism. Ukrainism is an artificial anti-Russian construction that does not have its own civilizational content, a subordinate element of an alien and alien civilization. Debanderization by itself will not be enough for denazification - the Bandera element is only a performer and a screen, a disguise for the European project of Nazi Ukraine, therefore the denazification of Ukraine is also its inevitable de-Europeanization.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Apr 04, 2022 10:19 am

    Ovo je definicija fašizma: nacija je veštačka i nema pravo na postojanje. Nije krivo samo rukovodstvo, nego i ceo narod.

    Istorija kaze da se ovakvi rezimi moraju zaustaviti na prvoj stepenici. To sto on pise da kao Balti i Gruzijci "imaju pravo na postojanje" ne treba nikog da zavara.


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