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Volodymyr Zelensky said Ukraine must recognise it will never join Nato.

The Ukrainian president’s comments sparked speculation that he could be laying the groundwork for a peace deal with Moscow, which wants Kyiv barred from joining the alliance.

"Ukraine is not a member of Nato. We understand that. We have heard for years that the doors were open, but we also heard that we could not join. It's a truth and it must be recognised," Zelensky said during a video conference with military officials.

He said Nato was the "strongest alliance in the world" - but "some of the members of this alliance are hypnotised by Russian aggression".

Russia has long demanded that its neighbour never be allowed to join the alliance, and the Kremlin said last week the war would end "in a moment" if Kyiv agreed, and recognised Russian control of Crimea and separatist-held areas.

Cousin Billy wrote:

kapetanm wrote:Odesa im je logičan cilj, kad tad ce napasti. Sad mine na plaži su za iskrcavanje najmanji poblem.

Ma znam da će napasti kad tad ali mi se čini da bi sad bilo malo besmisleno. OK možda imaju neku briljantnu ideju kao i ove dosadašnje.

China has already decided to send economic aid to Russia in Ukraine conflict, US officials fear
Jake Sullivan’s Rome meeting with Chinese counterpart left US officials pessimistic about steering Beijing away from backing Moscow

Julian Borger in Washington
Tue 15 Mar 2022 00.45 GM


China has already decided to provide Russia with economic and financial support during its war on Ukraine and is contemplating sending military supplies such as armed drones, US officials fear.

The US national security adviser, Jake Sullivan, laid out the US case against Russia’s invasion in an “intense” seven-hour meeting in Rome with his Chinese counterpart, Yang Jiechi, pointing out that Moscow had feigned interest in diplomacy while preparing for invasion, and also that the Russian military was clearly showing signs of frailty.

The US delegation in Rome had not expected the Chinese diplomats to negotiate, seeing them as message deliverers to Beijing.

“It was an intense seven-hour session, reflecting the gravity of the moment, as well as our commitment to maintaining open lines of communication,” a senior administration official said. “This meeting was not about negotiating specific issues or outcomes, but about a candid, direct exchange of views.”

Asked if it had been successful, the official replied: “I suppose it depends on how you define success, but we believe that it is important to keep open lines of communication between the United States and China, especially on areas where we disagree.”

However, the Americans walked away from the Rome meeting pessimistic that the Chinese government would change its minds about backing Moscow.

“The key here is first to get China to recalculate and re-evaluate their position. We see no sign of that re-evaluation,” said another US official familiar with the discussions. “They’ve already decided that they’re going to provide economic and financial support, and they underscored that today. The question really is whether they will go further.”

Top of the Russian military shopping list in China are armed drones and various forms of ammunition, but any military transfers would not be straightforward.

“Both sides understand that they don’t share common systems, and so that makes it problematic,” the official said. CNN reported that the Russian military is also asking for ration packs, underlining its severe logistical problems in a more prolonged and tougher conflict than it anticipated.

Russia needs economic and financial aid most urgently, in the face of devastating sanctions imposed by the US and its allies since the 24 February invasion. The country is danger of default on its debt payments, with two interest payments due on Wednesday, though it will have a 30-day grace period.

Moscow is unable to access nearly all of its $640bn in gold and foreign exchange reserves, but still holds part of those reserves in yuan, so Beijing will be able to step in to provide immediate assistance.

There is pessimism in Washington about the possibility of steering China away from throwing in its lot with Russia, largely because it sees the partnership as being driven from the top.

“It really is a project of Xi Jinping. He is totally, fundamentally behind this closer partnership with Russia,” the US official said. There is more scepticism lower down the ranks, but Xi and Putin have bonded over their shared view of the US as being heavy- and high-handed, and determined to end the period of US global dominance.

If China does back Russia in its showdown with the west, the Biden administration will shift its focus to persuading allies, in Europe particularly, to rethink their relationships with Beijing. Sullivan is due in Paris on Tuesday for discussions with the French government.

“The United States believes that the key here is a careful process of dialogue and discussion with Europe about what China is revealing about its global policies and priorities,” the US official said. “Our goal basically is to carefully engage China, letting the Europeans know [what we are doing] all along, but if it becomes clear that [China] is moving in another direction, so be it.”

Janko Suvar wrote:Azov have dug out an MG42, from Telegram. Text: “continuity of generations: the MG42 machine gun is once again guarding Europe against Bolshevism” https://t.co/uyJefj08XI

Sotir wrote:

Janko Suvar wrote:Azov have dug out an MG42, from Telegram. Text: “continuity of generations: the MG42 machine gun is once again guarding Europe against Bolshevism” https://t.co/uyJefj08XI

Неки веле да се ради о М-53, југословенској копији. 
Као и да је скоро стигла.

Код бразилских добровољаца виђен и М70, наш калаш.

Sotir wrote:

Janko Suvar wrote:Azov have dug out an MG42, from Telegram. Text: “continuity of generations: the MG42 machine gun is once again guarding Europe against Bolshevism” https://t.co/uyJefj08XI

Неки веле да се ради о М-53, југословенској копији. 
Као и да је скоро стигла.

Код бразилских добровољаца виђен и М70, наш калаш.

Notxor wrote:

Sotir wrote:
Неки веле да се ради о М-53, југословенској копији. 
Као и да је скоро стигла.

Код бразилских добровољаца виђен и М70, наш калаш.

Na trećem kanalu piše da je  У азовцев замечены характерные образцы оружия. Вот, например, MG-42/59 из Италии

Evo još jedne vesti koju je nemoguće proveriti

Notxor wrote:

Sotir wrote:
Неки веле да се ради о М-53, југословенској копији. 
Као и да је скоро стигла.

Код бразилских добровољаца виђен и М70, наш калаш.

Na trećem kanalu piše da je  У азовцев замечены характерные образцы оружия. Вот, например, MG-42/59 из Италии

Evo još jedne vesti koju je nemoguće proveriti

Marina Ovsyannikova was fined 30,000 rubles ($280) for urging people to protest in a video posted online.

However, her TV protest is still the subject of a separate criminal probe under the new law that bans spreading “fake news” about Russia’s military.https://t.co/gK66c20YUZ

— Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews) March 15, 2022

Marina Ovsyannikova emerges from court, says she hasn't slept in two days, wasn't allowed to make any phone calls or see a lawyer. Says she's not surprised she just got a fine because she has two children. https://t.co/vmEwcMt8CI

— Julia Ioffe (@juliaioffe) March 15, 2022

Russia on Tuesday formally quit the Council of Europe, a human rights watchdog based in Strasbourg, pre-empting possible expulsion over its attack on its neighbor Ukraine.#councilofeurope | #Russia https://t.co/HPPaS8OFBS

— The Jerusalem Post (@Jerusalem_Post) March 15, 2022

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