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    Nektivni Ugnelj

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:06 pm

    Del Cap wrote:Jako

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    The war to end all wars. 

    Rat za mir.
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    Post by boomer crook Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:14 pm

    Janko Suvar wrote:Nisam do kraja sposoban da proniknem u ustaski um, ali me stvarno intrigira, sta ga je nateralo da stavi tu fusnostu. 

    Mislim zasto bi za Makijavelea bila fusnota, a za Cvajga ili Steriju ne bi bila? Sta je dobijeno u razumevanju teksta sto je ta referenca napravljena i zasto bi urednik tako nesto ostavio?

    Bizarna odluka.

    miroslava tukli cankovi batinasi dok ste se lompar i ti bavili kulturnim ratom onako metafizicki.

    nego aamardzica objavljuje i nspm i autonomija i on je zanimljiv lik. npr. jedan moj, sada pokojni drugar, ga se seca sa filozofskih skupova 80tih kako brani kosovske albance a ja sam ga upoznao krajem devdesetih kao doslednog antimilosevicevca.


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    And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:29 pm

    Cousin Billy wrote:
    Ferenc Puskás wrote:Čitam na PPP se masovno tješe kako su relatavni neuspjesi ruske vojske zapravo ukalkulirani u navodnu standardnu rusku taktiku da u boj prvo šalju najgore što imaju, pa kad ovi izmore protivnika, onda se ubacuju prave kvalitetne snage. Kaže neki Amer, navodno vojni stručnjak.
    Budući bez visoke vojne škole i laik za vojnu istoriju, pitam se gdje i kad je ta taktika potvrđena. U ww2, u Avganistanu su slali prvo nagore, pa onda ubacivali najbolje?
    Zvuči mi kao priličan bullshit, kao da basket kouč igra prvu 1/4nu s rezervama.

    to je samo logični nastavak diskreditovane priče "Rusi paze jer ne žele da ubijaju civile i ruše gradove".
    sutra će biti nešto drugo.

    Da se vratim na ovo: na više mesta sam kod proruskih trolova naišao na priču  da "Rusiji zapravo ne treba Kijev", to je to "nešto drugo" izgleda. Ma majke ti, ne treba im glavni grad neprijateljske zemlje.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:03 pm

    Ne treba im nista sto ne osvoje. Kad osvoje trebace im i oduvek im je trebalo.
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    Post by Uncle Baby Billy Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:05 pm

    the return of the Freedom Fries!

    A restaurant in France seeks to clear its name after fielding confusion surrounding poutine, its signature dish — fries doused with cheese curds and gravy — and Russian President Vladimir Putin, the leader who announced an invasion into Ukraine just over a week ago.

    La Maison de la Poutine, or The House of Poutine, tweeted on Friday that it received "calls of insults and even threats" over its namesake dish.

    "It, therefore, seems necessary for us to recall that La Maison de la Poutine is unrelated to the Russian regime and its leader," the tweet read. It featured the restaurant's logo, a heart emoji, and the Ukrainian flag.

    "Our dish was born in Quebec in the 1950s. And the stories to tell its origin are numerous. But one thing is certain: poutine was created by passionate cooks who care about bringing joy and comfort to their customers," the restaurant, which runs two locations in Paris and one in Toulouse, wrote.

    The restaurant went on to offer its support to "the Ukrainian people who are courageously fighting for their freedom against the tyrannical Russian regime."


    Last week, Quebec restaurant Le Roy Jucep joined the fray, saying it was removing the word "poutine" from its branding in protest of the invasion, according to Canadian daily the Ottawa Citizen.


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    ja se rukovodim logikom gvozdenih determinizama
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    Post by Vilmos Tehenészfiú Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:11 pm

    Poutine je nacionalno jelo u Kvebeku, kao cevapi kod nas. Inace je tesko jelo do zla boga, dusu dalo za drvosece koji po zimi seku sumu.


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    "Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."

    “Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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    Post by kondo Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:17 pm

    Kanadski pretop, komplet lepinja.


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    #FreeFacu

    Дакле, волео бих да се ЈСД Партизан угаси, али не и да сви (или било који) гробар умре.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:24 pm

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    Post by rumbeando Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:50 pm

    To je bio pik, sad je na 143.

    https://www.forex.com/en/forex-trading/usd-rub/
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    Post by kondo Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:55 pm

    ma jasno, smiriće se ovo divljanje i u srbiji
    ne znam koji sam q danas kupovao devize po 118.30, jedino me teši da sam ih pre 5 godina kupovao po 123


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    #FreeFacu

    Дакле, волео бих да се ЈСД Партизан угаси, али не и да сви (или било који) гробар умре.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:58 pm

    rumbeando wrote:To je bio pik, sad je na 143.

    https://www.forex.com/en/forex-trading/usd-rub/

    i to je ohoho

    Edit: Meanwhile...

    Russia’s ambassador to the United Nations, Vasily Nebenzya, is in the UN Security Council chamber in New York, claiming Ukrainians are shelling themselves.
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    Post by Vilmos Tehenészfiú Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:24 pm

    Ali ovaj bukvy igra Milosevicev playbook.  Rat u Ukrajini - Page 13 1233199462


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    "Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."

    “Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:35 pm

    bacih pogled na prognozu u Ukrajini tokom ovog ciklona. naredni dani u Sumiju:

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    Post by boomer crook Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:46 pm

    jadni oni ljudi na granici


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    And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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    Post by kapetanm Tue Mar 08, 2022 12:05 am

    Bice tamo jos gadne zime, katastrofa
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    Post by Del Cap Tue Mar 08, 2022 8:08 am

    Da se ne ljubimo...

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    Post by boomer crook Tue Mar 08, 2022 8:21 am

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    And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Mar 08, 2022 8:38 am

    Mozda ce se veci deo rata voditi na tviteru...
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    Post by Del Cap Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:29 am

    European University Association suspends Russian members over pro-war statement

    07 Mar 2022 | News

    Russian rectors have fallen into line behind Vladimir Putin, shocking European academics. But some think their statement was made under duress

    By David Matthews

    The European University Association (EUA) has suspended 12 Russian universities whose rectors signed a statement supporting president Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine and parroting the Kremlin’s justification for the assault.


    Such a forceful pro-war statement from dozens of Russian rectors, released at the end of last week, has shocked even dovish voices in Europe who want to maintain some scientific ties with Russia.


    In their statement, the Russian rectors say it is “very important” to support the country’s army and president, and state that it is their “fundamental duty” to “teach our students to be patriotic and to strive to help their motherland.”


    In response, the EUA today suspended 12 Russian members, saying the statement is “diametrically opposed” to the European values they committed to when joining the association.


    Ghent University rector Rik Van de Walle, who last week led calls for Europe to remain open to research collaboration with Russia, said he was now consulting the university’s human rights commissioner for advice on how to proceed.


    A suspension of collaboration with universities that signed the letter is now on the table, he said.


    “I do not wish to make any statements about all Russian universities and knowledge institutions as a whole, but I am very critical of those who endorse the statement of the Russian Rectors Union,” he said.


    Germany, Denmark, the Netherlands and Lithuania have all stopped official projects with Russia in response to the invasion. On 5 March, Norway became the latest country to follow suit, putting all research and educational partnerships between institutions on hold. But German academics have been urged to stay in private contact with their Russian counterparts.
    Advocates for maintaining scientific links argue Europe should not punish and isolate Russian universities and academics, as they are a potential force for peace and liberalisation in Russian society.


    The pro-war Russian rectors’ statement makes this argument harder to advance – although it is unclear how willingly the rectors signed up.


    “It is just the tone and outspokenness which proves that probably not one rector has been consulted about this?” said Kurt Deketelaere, secretary general of the League of European Research Universities, and an opponent of what he thinks is a rush to cut Russia off. “You really think those rectors are all that crazy?”


    Last week, the Russian government passed a new law threatening up to 15 years in prison for spreading “fake” news about the military.


    Alexander Nozik, a senior researcher at the Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology, speaking in a personal capacity, said that he estimated around 90% of Russian academics are “firmly against the war” and “terrified of what is happening”, although open polling is impossible because of a fear of prosecution.

    “This letter by rectors is a shameful act,” he said. But it may have been signed under some kind of duress – it could have been drawn up for them, and the rectors were too afraid to object, he speculated.



    It was also not publicised by them in the press, he said. “So, it is quite obvious that they were more or less forced to issue it, but do not like it much,” he said.


    Two days before their inflammatory statement, Russian rectors issued a much less bellicose communication, calling for international research to remain open in spite of events.


    Some Russian universities have issued individual statements on the war. On 28 February, the rector of the Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology put out a carefully worded statement urging colleagues not to comment on political events and stressing the value of international cooperation. “We may have differing views on what is going on,” he said.


    On the other hand, last week the rector of Peter the Great St Petersburg Polytechnic University issued a full-throated backing of the invasion, blaming the west for inciting the conflict and repeating the Kremlin claim that Ukraine was seeking nuclear weapons.


    Nearly 8,000 Russian scientists have now signed an anti-war petition condemning the invasion of Ukraine. However, the science website that published the petition has now taken it down “due to the new legislation effectively introducing severe censorship.” However, the list of signatories is still visible.


    One signatory contacted by Science|Business said that the Russian government “cares little about the international isolation of Russian scientists and acts with little regard for them (as well as for the rest of the people).” Severing ties with Russian scientists is “inappropriate”, the signatory said, “because it will not benefit science.”
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    Post by Guest Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:37 am

    E od ovoga će zacelo procvetati demokratija u Rusiji. Odgovor na agresiju je počeo da prelazi sve razumne granice.
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    Post by MNE Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:39 am

    Kako da oslabimo Putina? Tako što ćemo ojačati Putina.

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:44 am

    Cousin Billy wrote:E od ovoga će zacelo procvetati demokratija u Rusiji. Odgovor na agresiju je počeo da prelazi sve razumne granice.

    Znaju oni odlicno da od demokratije kratko-srednjorkcno nema nista. Cilj je ujesti oligarhe/ekonomsku, intelektualnu elitu, kulturnu, sankcijama i vojnu, ukratko top 10-20%, dokazati im da nema nista od privida normalnog zivota dok je tu Putin. A kako ce oni to da rese sa njim, nek vide sami.
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    Post by Guest Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:47 am

    ok, ali onda je jasno ko me ucenjuje i ko mi je neprijatelj, zajedno sa putinom
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    Post by Guest Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:49 am

    Talason wrote:ok, ali onda je jasno ko me ucenjuje i ko mi je neprijatelj, zajedno sa putinom

    Pa to je problem. OK je čekić ali daj malo i skalpel, pogotovo kada su u pitanju liberalne sredine u Rusiji.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:52 am

    Ok, ali ovoga i dalje ne bi bilo da ovi to nisu potpisali. 

    Znam sve, ali...

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