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    Post by Janko Suvar Sat Mar 05, 2022 1:19 pm

    Janko Suvar wrote:The SBU allegedly killed a member of the Ukrainian delegation at the talks with the Russian Federation during the arrest

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    It looks like this is true. The pro-Kremlin channels attribute his death to the Ukrainian Security Service. I don't know if that part of the story is disinfo designed to depict Ukraine as beset by civil war or is actually true. Either way, an upsetting high-level incident.

    The narrative I’m seeing on Russian channels is that Kireyev was suspected of treason (working for Moscow), arrested, and then executed. Ukrainian lawmaker Oleksandr Dubinsky says the SBU (Ukr govt forces) killed him while trying to arrest him.


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    Dubinsky concludes his post with the words: “How did [Kireyev] get into the Ukrainian delegation for negotiations with the occupiers? I really want to find out from the President’s Office.” Seems like bad tidings for Zelensky.
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    Post by Sotir Sat Mar 05, 2022 1:19 pm

    За овај је прилично сигурно да је оборен, остаје само који је модел авиона. Можда је Су-34, ловац бомбардер.

    И онај Ми-35 је исто прилично сигурно да је оборен. Остаје само питање чиме је оборен, пошто је гађано са врло мале даљине.

    За онај Су-25 што је поставио Пунк прилично сумњам да су манипулисали са ознакама на репу. Док не видимо мало боље, можда је фејк.
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    Post by Janko Suvar Sat Mar 05, 2022 1:20 pm

    Cousin Billy wrote:u Ukrajini se razvijaju vrhunske AAA igre - Metro i S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
    The Ukrainian developer of Stalker 2 released a powerful video, informing the fans that work on the game will resume 'after the Ukrainian victory.'
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    Post by Del Cap Sat Mar 05, 2022 1:22 pm

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    Interesting side effect of European sanctions on Russia (as per Phil Seymour) - President of the association of European Leasing Companies.

    All over the word airlines don't own their own planes, they lease them.

    The European Union has imposed sanctions on Russia and obliged European leasing companies to take back all leased aircraft from Russia by March 28th. That's a total of 520 aircraft.
    Phil Seymour, President of the Association of European Leasing Companies:

    1. Return of 520 aircraft! How is this to be done? The Russians said if you refuse to lease them to us, get them back yourself! How can we get 520 crews to Russia when the airspace in Russia, Belarus and Ukraine is closed? We can't fly in!

    2. Once the handover has taken place in Russian airports, the planes will no longer be Russian. But a non-Russian plane is not allowed to fly in Russian airspace – the Russian airspace is blocked! We won't be able to fly out!

    3. However, the leasing companies are the initiators of the termination of these leases. In the original calculation of the cost of fines in such a case, we will all be bankrupted at once. It's easier and cheaper to go bankrupt than to take back the planes.

    4. Feb. is over and Russia has to pay the lease payments for the month. Russia is willing to pay but cannot pay because it is excluded from SWIFT. We ourselves have to pay fines because of the terminations,

    but in view of the lack of incoming payments from Russia we have no money for such payments!
    5. Even if we take back these planes, what are we going to do with them? We don't need them, nobody wants them and it's impossible to sell them!

    6. The Boeings of American leasing companies are not affected. If Europe takes the planes away from the Russians, the US will supply Russia with its Boeing planes and become the world's No. 1 airline, bankrupting both the European leasing company and Airbus."

    https://twitter.com/fox666ak/status/1499413295085899782

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    Post by паће Sat Mar 05, 2022 1:23 pm

    Mr.Pink wrote:
    ajde bmp i tenk, ali brt sukhoi i pantsir...pa otplacivali bi mi oficiri i njihova unuci to

    Готово, Русија је амерска колонија. По њима се више ништа не зове, нема сухоја, нема панцира, само сукхоии и пантсири. Уебигах.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sat Mar 05, 2022 1:25 pm

    Del Cap wrote:
    Ahmed Kamel @fox666ak
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    Interesting side effect of European sanctions on Russia (as per Phil Seymour) - President of the association of European Leasing Companies.

    All over the word airlines don't own their own planes, they lease them.

    The European Union has imposed sanctions on Russia and obliged European leasing companies to take back all leased aircraft from Russia by March 28th. That's a total of 520 aircraft.
    Phil Seymour, President of the Association of European Leasing Companies:

    1. Return of 520 aircraft! How is this to be done? The Russians said if you refuse to lease them to us, get them back yourself! How can we get 520 crews to Russia when the airspace in Russia, Belarus and Ukraine is closed? We can't fly in!

    2. Once the handover has taken place in Russian airports, the planes will no longer be Russian. But a non-Russian plane is not allowed to fly in Russian airspace – the Russian airspace is blocked! We won't be able to fly out!

    3. However, the leasing companies are the initiators of the termination of these leases. In the original calculation of the cost of fines in such a case, we will all be bankrupted at once. It's easier and cheaper to go bankrupt than to take back the planes.

    4. Feb. is over and Russia has to pay the lease payments for the month. Russia is willing to pay but cannot pay because it is excluded from SWIFT. We ourselves have to pay fines because of the terminations,

    but in view of the lack of incoming payments from Russia we have no money for such payments!
    5. Even if we take back these planes, what are we going to do with them? We don't need them, nobody wants them and it's impossible to sell them!

    6. The Boeings of American leasing companies are not affected. If Europe takes the planes away from the Russians, the US will supply Russia with its Boeing planes and become the world's No. 1 airline, bankrupting both the European leasing company and Airbus."

    https://twitter.com/fox666ak/status/1499413295085899782

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    Post by Del Cap Sat Mar 05, 2022 1:28 pm

    Bili bi tipa 5. najveća kompanija na svetu, doduše ne po passenger revenue miles, samo po floti Rat u Ukrajini - Page 38 1399639816
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    Post by паће Sat Mar 05, 2022 1:28 pm

    Како су се зафарбали у ћошку, уз амерску помоћ...


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    Post by Guest Sat Mar 05, 2022 1:32 pm

    Ovo je gotovo sve netačno, a ovo sa Boingom je jednostavno izmišljanje: Boing je isključio Rusiju iz tehničke podrške, pisali smo i ovde o tome.
    Zapravo mislim da nijedan detalj nije tačan.


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    Post by kondo Sat Mar 05, 2022 1:33 pm

    kondo wrote:


    ne znam da li je CGI ali jeste cudno da se ovo sve desava na skoro pa fiksno pozicioniranoj kameri, uz manju korekciju.

    ili su majstori prekognicije.


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    Post by паће Sat Mar 05, 2022 1:38 pm

    „You can fake most of the pixels all the time, you can fake all of the pixels most of the time, but you can never fake all the pixels all the time“ - Charlie Stross.


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    Post by fikret selimbašić Sat Mar 05, 2022 1:38 pm

    Sotir wrote:За овај је прилично сигурно да је оборен, остаје само који је модел авиона. Можда је Су-34, ловац бомбардер.

    И онај Ми-35 је исто прилично сигурно да је оборен. Остаје само питање чиме је оборен, пошто је гађано са врло мале даљине.

    За онај Су-25 што је поставио Пунк прилично сумњам да су манипулисали са ознакама на репу. Док не видимо мало боље, можда је фејк.

    SU-34, ima video na kom pilota pitaju o kom se modelu aviona radi.
    Juče su pala/oborena dva SU-25, jedan na zasnježenu poljanu, drugi na golu njivu, kažu da je negdje u kijevskoj oblasti.


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    Del Cap

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    Post by Del Cap Sat Mar 05, 2022 1:45 pm

    Cousin Billy wrote:Ovo je gotovo sve netačno, a ovo sa Boingom je jednostavno izmišljanje: Boing je isključio Rusiju iz tehničke podrške, pisali smo i ovde o tome.
    Zapravo mislim da nijedan detalj nije tačan.

    pa tako sad izgleda

    nađoh i detaljnije pojašnjenje teme

    https://www.techarp.com/travel/russian-sanctions-airbus-leasing/
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sat Mar 05, 2022 1:54 pm

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    Post by Del Cap Sat Mar 05, 2022 1:55 pm

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    Post by Filipenko Sat Mar 05, 2022 1:55 pm

    BTW zna li neko da li se oglasio Prilepin? Rat u Ukrajini - Page 38 819872012
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sat Mar 05, 2022 2:02 pm

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    Post by Filipenko Sat Mar 05, 2022 2:13 pm

    The only thing we ask our EU&US partners for is fighter jets and air defence


    "We will give them every support, short of help" Rat u Ukrajini - Page 38 3137070404


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sat Mar 05, 2022 2:39 pm

    Guardian/AFP

    Western sanctions on Russia akin to declaration of war, says Putin


    President Vladimir Putin said western sanctions on Russia were akin to a declaration of war, reports Reuters.


    He said Moscow needed to defend Russian speakers in Ukraine’s east as well as its own interests.


    In televised comments to female flight attendants Rat u Ukrajini - Page 38 1399639816  he said Russia wanted Ukraine to be “demilitarised”, “denazified” and to have neutral status.


    He also said he has no plans to declare martial law in Russia, reports AFP:
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sat Mar 05, 2022 2:44 pm

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    Post by rumbeando Sat Mar 05, 2022 2:54 pm

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    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60610840
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    Post by Del Cap Sat Mar 05, 2022 2:57 pm

    Putin: "Maximum economic freedom for businesses may be the way out of the current situation"

    libertarijanizam ftw
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    Post by rumbeando Sat Mar 05, 2022 2:57 pm

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