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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:36 am

    rumbeando wrote:Kosovski ministar odbrane:




    O, pa naravno.
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    Post by Filipenko Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:38 am

    rumbeando wrote:Kosovski ministar odbrane:





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    Erős Pista wrote:Ne treba ti veći dokaz da nije u pitanju ni demokratija ni suverena zemlja.
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    Post by Erős Pista Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:47 am

    Pa nije tačno, mada kosovski suverenitet jeste sporan i samo delimičan, demokratija je realno življa nego u Srbiji (ostatku Srbije*), ali aj to na stranu. Ovo je jasna i racionalna odluka kojom pokušavaju kako da se zaštite od mogućeg napada iz Srbije, tako i da stanu u red za ubrzano članstvo u EU. 

    Kad se radi o Belorusiji, nijedna normalna zemlja ne donosi odluku o staicioniranju (tuđih) nuklearnih projektila preko noći i sa većinom od 65% - to bukvalno znači da se pretvaraš u primarnu metu nuklearnog napada.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:54 am

    Erős Pista wrote:Pa nije tačno, mada kosovski suverenitet jeste sporan i samo delimičan, demokratija je realno življa nego u Srbiji (ostatku Srbije*), ali aj to na stranu. Ovo je jasna i racionalna odluka kojom pokušavaju kako da se zaštite od mogućeg napada iz Srbije, tako i da stanu u red za ubrzano članstvo u EU. 

    Kad se radi o Belorusiji, nijedna normalna zemlja ne donosi odluku o staicioniranju (tuđih) nuklearnih projektila preko noći i sa većinom od 65% - to bukvalno znači da se pretvaraš u primarnu metu nuklearnog napada.

    Ma de su oni normalna zemlja...

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:55 am

    Sto se Kosova tice, za pocetak ocekujmo da ce ga ubrzo priznati neke od ovih 5 zemalja EU koje do sada nisu.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:56 am

    Mislim, s obzirom na nasu odbranu "nacionalnih interesa" sa konferencije prekjuce
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    Post by Bluberi Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:07 am

    Ponoviću-Putin je učinio medveđu uslugu svim populistima zapadnog sveta, osim možda USA. A liberalizam bi mogao da mu digne spomenik u znak zahvalnosti.
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    Post by Vilmos Tehenészfiú Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:25 am

    Sotir wrote:На овим снимцима из кола сваки други ауто има напрслу шофершајбну.

    Kad je zima, posipaju led kombinacijom soli, peska i sitnih kamencica. 

    Kad led otopi, kamencici sitni pocinju da lete kada se nagaze autom i tras u soferku. Eto naprsle sofersajbne.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:39 am

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:40 am

    Ova ekipa je luda
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    Post by plachkica Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:28 am

    tek večeras sam naletela i na ovaj segment ovog rata
    ceo niz


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    Post by Vilmos Tehenészfiú Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:59 am

    Mór Thököly wrote:
    Del Cap wrote:https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1497993363076915204

    ima svašta u nizu

    Idk... Mislim, ok, ali zasto bi Putin morao nesto da zna o ratu (ko da Zelenski ista zna...), ima valjda generale za to?

    Druga je stvar ako se petljao u posao.

    Ja mislim da je najslabija tacka poduhvata, kao i, ahem, Milosevicevih - sto nema jasnog cilja operacije. Posto je i rat politika i vodi se radi politickih ciljeva - koje je to tacno politicko stanje stvari koje ti hoces da postignes? Ne sta "neces" (Zelenskog, liberalnu demokratiju, ukrajinske desnicare bla bla, nego, sta - hoces?
    Pa rekao je šta hoće. Regime change, predsednika uhapsilo pa na sud, čisćenje zemlje od narkomana i fašista, jako i do samog kraja (što znači do Poljske granice). Kad ti čovek lepo kaže ko je, odmah mu poveruj.


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    "Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."

    “Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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    Post by Vilmos Tehenészfiú Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:03 am

    Mór Thököly wrote:Ova ekipa je luda
    Problem je (njihov, ruski) što se ovo na zapadu ne shvata ozbiljno. Niko im ne veruje da je Ukrajina srce Rusije i da je Ukrajina brdo na kome će svi Rusi da izginu ako treba (a sa njima i ceo svet).


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    "Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."

    “Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:47 am

    Da je to tako ne bi rat polukrili od svog stanivnistva

    Ne samo rat, nego sirinu rata. I totalno bi ga drugacije krstili, a ne kao nekakvu kaznenu ekspediciju.
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    Post by Del Cap Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:18 am

    Josh Lipsky, director of the Atlantic Council’s Geoeconomics Center who previously worked at the IMF, said before the announcement that hitting the central bank would be an “extraordinarily significant and damaging move” to Russia’s economy. “A G20 central bank has never been sanctioned before. This is not Iran. This is not Venezuela,” said Lipsky.

    As Fishman explained to the FT, the ultimate sanction would be to add the Russian central bank to the Treasury’s “Specially Designated Nationals” list, that would effectively excluded it from the global financial system. “It would render a sizeable chunk of their foreign exchange reserves unusable overnight” - in the order of $300 billion - Fishman added.

    But, for all the fire and fury, the FT team also reported the following:

    The goal will be to avoid undermining mechanisms for western economies to purchase energy from Russia. The allies have not finalised the details, but will either carve out certain energy-focused banks or use product definitions in the Swift system to permit energy-related transactions.

    In other words, sanctions will be designed to enable continued flows of payments to Russia for energy.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:31 am

    Dobro, ne zele sami sebe da ubijaju.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:34 am

    Btw, Zelenski mora da bude ekstra pazljiv odakle ce i kako da komunicira sa onima koji budu bili na tim pregovorima u Belorusiji.
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    Post by Vilmos Tehenészfiú Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:37 am

    Ne ide on na pregovore.


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    "Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."

    “Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:40 am

    Nije to bitno. Mora nekako da real time ucestvuje ili bar konsultuje. A kojim god sredstvom da to radi, postoji rizik.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:41 am

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/volodymyr-zelensky-russian-mercenaries-ordered-to-kill-ukraine-president-cvcksh79d
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    Post by Guest Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:47 am

    Finansijski kolaps u Rusiji. Berze se navodno otvaraju (najranije) tek u 3 popodne, a pitanje je da li će uopšte otvarati danas.
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    Post by Del Cap Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:50 am

    Europe is now operating in a new paradigm where Ukraine should be offered a “special track” toward integration, Slovakia’s Prime Minister Eduard Heger said on Sunday.
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    Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy made a public appeal over the weekend on EU accession, declaring that now is a “crucial moment” to decide on Ukraine’s membership, after Russian President Vladimir Putin invaded the country on Thursday.

    Slovakia — which shares a border with Ukraine — is advocating for Kyiv’s EU plea to be taken seriously.

    “On Thursday morning, we woke up to a new world,” Heger said. Europe, according to the Slovak leader, now needs to give Kyiv a “signal.”

    “They fight for themselves, they fight for us — they fight for freedom,” Heger said of Ukrainians. “We have to realize that they are protecting our system, our values and we have to be together with them. So there is no time to hesitate on this,” he said.

    The Slovak prime minister argued that a new approach to European integration should be adopted when it comes to Ukraine. There should be a “totally new track” for a country that has gone through a war and “wants to be part of Europe,” he said.
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    https://www.politico.eu/article/slovakia-pushes-for-new-eu-track-for-ukraine/
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    Post by Del Cap Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:57 am

    BREAKING: The Russian central bank raises the key interest rate to 20% (from 9.5%). https://t.co/v8NkhuTSiv
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    Post by kondo Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:58 am

    haha koje budale, koliko stvari gura normalnog coveka na stranu rusa samo kad bi oni bili normalni za promenu. kako su ovo zamesili bajdenovci, pakao. cemu se vucic nada, da li je svestan.

    nego ova kombinacija demokrata precednik US, zeleni ministar spoljnih poslova nemacke, odakle mi to zvuci poznato.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Feb 28, 2022 8:01 am

    Zasto su budale?

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