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Mór Thököly wrote:

"Повестка пришла мне на работу". Жители ЛНР прибывают на мобилизационные пунктыhttps://t.co/jwYurJoO1U pic.twitter.com/2Z3FgPP8KC

— РИА Новости (@rianru) February 20, 2022

ficfiric wrote:Dolazi Petrusev po ukrajniske dobrovoljce. Kinik? Uki?

ficfiric wrote:Dolazi Petrusev po ukrajniske dobrovoljce. Kinik? Uki?

The Russian troops have now their rations, tents, etc. with them (the brown packs on the APCs).

But the troops are not setting up any tents (as it would take time to take them down and store them), which means these troops are in the last hours before an invasion. https://t.co/oJa63JUW9K

— Thomas C. Theiner (@noclador) February 20, 2022

The president was very clear that he is convinced by U.S. intelligence that this invasion will happen, that President Putin decided to do it. How is he that certain?

DAVID MARTIN: Because the intelligence says that Russian troops have actually received orders now to proceed with the invasion. So, not only are they moving up closer and closer to the border into these attack positions, but the commanders on the ground are making specific plans for how they would maneuver in their sector of the battlefield. They're doing everything that American commanders would do once they got the order to proceed.

MARGARET BRENNAN: We know Vladimir Putin gives himself many options. From what you know, what is the option he seems to be setting himself up for? How does this play out?

DAVID MARTIN: Well, he is definitely giving himself the option for a full- scale invasion of the country, which would begin with an attack on the capital of Kyiv. And...

MARGARET BRENNAN: It would begin there?

DAVID MARTIN: It would begin there.

MARGARET BRENNAN: With an aerial assault?

DAVID MARTIN: An aerial -- well, a cyber assault to begin with. But it will look much like the shock and awe campaign that the U.S. unleashed on the city of Baghdad in 2003 when it invaded Iraq. Cyber weapons didn't exist back in 2003, so that is a new ingredient. And you would think cyber would come first to knock out communications, knock out power. But then they would be followed by missile strikes and airstrikes and special operations raids to seize key parts of the city, radio, TV stations. And then you could see the units rolling from the border north of Kyiv down on either side of the city to isolate the city and prevent the government from escaping into a government in exile.

MARGARET BRENNAN: When you compare it to shock and awe, there is a certain amount of precision that's assumed with that. Precision is not necessarily in the Russian playbook for military operations. I mean, what should we be preparing for?

DAVID MARTIN: Well, remember, the Russians have had 18 years to go to school on how we conducted that shock and awe campaign. So, they have developed precision-guided weapons. I would expect them to use them, because they're more effective. If he wants to have this country back in the Russian empire, he doesn't want to destroy Kyiv.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Right.

DAVID MARTIN: He wants -- he wants a working government. He doesn't want to find what we found when we got to Baghdad, to find this country totally stripped of its infrastructure.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Mm-hmm. And when it comes to trying to swallow a country, I mean, the argument for the U.S. has been we have poured in weapons and training, and helps the Ukrainians to be able to resist this kind of occupation. Is that what we're looking for, occupation, here, or is this just like military coercion?

DAVID MARTIN: Well, he's making the preparations for occupation. He has assembled a force that could invade and take down most of the country. And now he has begun to mobilize reserves who would serve as the occupation force. Now, I'm sure he's going to do the least that it takes to achieve his goal. And if his goal is to bring Ukraine back into his sphere of influence, maybe he can do it by just taking down the capital. Maybe he can do it by cutting a bigger piece out of the east. But he is obviously making preparations to do whatever it takes.

MARGARET BRENNAN: All right, David Martin, great to have you and your insight.

Clarifying: The French say Macron spoke with Biden and Putin separately today, not a joint call. Macron proposed a summit between Biden-Putin, which the French say the two agreed to “in principle.” “It can only be held if Russia does not invade Ukraine,” French readout says.

— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) February 21, 2022

“And currently, Russia appears to be continuing preparations for a full-scale assault on Ukraine very soon,” Psaki says.

— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) February 21, 2022

Del Cap wrote:

The Russian troops have now their rations, tents, etc. with them (the brown packs on the APCs).

But the troops are not setting up any tents (as it would take time to take them down and store them), which means these troops are in the last hours before an invasion. https://t.co/oJa63JUW9K

— Thomas C. Theiner (@noclador) February 20, 2022

Mór Thököly wrote:Ovo Z dosta izgleda kao položeno N. Ili su to mozda trupe kojima je glavno odredište Zaporožje

Ili obrnuto ćirilično "i"

#UPDATE Kremlin says it is too early to organise summit between Putin and Biden, after Paris announced the possibility of a meeting to calm tensions over Ukraine.

"It's premature to talk about any specific plans for organising any kind of summits," Kremlin spokesman Peskov says

MNE wrote:izgleda je situacija prilično zaguljena čim su aktivirali Andurila

Ministar spoljnih poslova Austrije, Aleksander Šalenberg, každe da se ”u senci rusko ukrajinskog konflikta” dešava ”aneksija Belorusije od strane Rusije“ i da se tome ne pridaje dovoljno medijske pažnje.

"Vidimo više manje aneksiju Belorusije , u vojnom smislu. Lukašenko je u izvesnoj meri odustao od suvereniteta Belorusije. To je vrlo zabrinjavajuće”, poručio je Šalenberg.

Dolazeći na sastanak Saveta ministra EU, šef austrijske diplomatije kaže da se najave o povalcenju ruske vojske iz Belorusije nakon manevara nisu ispunile i irazio sumnju da će se one ”ikada povući iz Belorusije”.

Anduril wrote:Ne znam sta je smesno u sada vec realnoj mogucnosti velikog rata u Evropi, sveopstem naoruzavanju, ekonomskoj krizi i nesigurnosti.