Rat u Ukrajini
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Zus wrote:Npr.aneksijom laponske oblasti u Finskoj. Treba zastititi Laponce, a I Rusija nema puno delova blizu polarne oblastifikret selimbašić wrote:Još jedan bitan detalj koji je u zavjetrini zbog jučerašnjih zbivanja, a na fonu one Putinove izjave pravu sovjetskih republika na nezavisnost. Juče mu je u posjetu došao Alijev, prijem je danas a na dnevnom redu je potpisivanje ugovora o svaezništvu, po važnosti i jačini ravnog tzv. Šušinskoj deklaraciji koju su prošle godine potpisali Erdogan i Allijev. Naplata za rusku kurcobolju za vrijeme rata u Karabahu i vraćanje Azerbejdžana na poželjan kolosijek. Ostaje još da riješi Baltik
Bukvalno može i to da uradi pod baš tim izgovorom. Trenutno nikakvih ozbiljnih prepreka za bilo kakvu akciju nema, da bi ih imao mora da se desi ozbiljna i duboka konsolidiacija tzv. zapada (EU, GB i USA) a toga ni na vidiku nema niti će uskoro da bude. Sad da uleti sa vojskom u Litlatesotoniju, ništa osim sankcija za te tri države ne bi dobio.
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Mór Thököly wrote:Zapravo to sto ne mogu da se dogovore oko sankcija je solidan faktor nestabilnosti.
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Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov says Ukraine does not have a right to sovereignty, says right should only be extended to nations that represent all people on territory, and Ukraine has not since 2014: News Outlet via Interfax.
— Tony Connelly (@tconnellyRTE) February 22, 2022
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Kazem, da mu uputi Dacic 1 upit
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https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1496098720076767236.htmlAlexey Navalny
16m • 16 tweets • 3 min read
1/16 Yesterday I watched the “session of the Security Council”, this gathering of dotards and thieves (it seems to me that our Anti-Corruption Foundation has done investigations into the corruption of every single one of them).
2/16 And I thought about the same gathering of nomenklatura dotards from the Politburo of the Central Committee of the CPSU, who, quite similarly, on their own whim , imagining themselves as geopoliticians at the “grand chessboard”, decided to send Soviet troops into Afghanistan.
3/16 The result was hundreds of thousands of victims, injuries to entire nations, the consequences of which both we and Afghanistan still cannot overcome, and the emergence of one of the key reasons for the collapse of the USSR.
4/16 Those morons from the Politburo covered themselves with a two-faced ideology. These Putin's dotards do not even have an ideology - only constant and undisguised lies. They don't even bother to give their casus belli the slightest credibility.
5/16 Both of them need one thing: to divert the attention of the people of Russia from real problems - the development of the economy, rising prices, reigning lawlessness - and switching it to the format of "imperial hysteria."
6/16 How long has it been since you last watched the news on federal channels? It's the only thing I watch now, and I can assure you, there is NO news about Russia there AT ALL. Literally. From the first to the last piece, it's Ukraine - USA - Europe.
7/16 Bare propaganda is no longer enough for the senile thieves. They want blood. They want to move around tank figurines on a map of hostilities.
8/16 And so, the head of the 21st century Politburo makes a truly insane speech. Twitter gave the most accurate metaphor for it: “It's just like my grandfather getting drunk at a family celebration and annoying everyone with his stories about how world politics actually works.”
9/16 It would be funny if the drunk grandfather was not a man of 69 who holds power in a country with nuclear weapons.
10/16 Replace "Ukraine" in his speech with "Kazakhstan", "Belarus", "Baltic countries", "Azerbaijan", "Uzbekistan" and so on, even including "Finland". And think about where the train of geopolitical thought of this senile grandfather may take him next.
11/16 All this ended very badly for everyone in 1979. And it will end just as badly now. Afghanistan was destroyed, but the USSR also received a mortal wound.
12/16 Thanks to Putin, hundreds of Ukrainians and Russian citizens may die now, and in the future, this number may reach tens of thousands. Yes, he will not allow Ukraine to develop, he will drag it into the swamp, but Russia will pay the same price.
13/16 We have everything for powerful development in the 21st century, from oil to educated citizens, but we will lose money again and squander the historical chance for a normal rich life for the sake of war, dirt, lies and the palace with golden eagles in Gelendzhik.
14/16 Putin and his senile thieves from the Security Council and United Russia are the enemies of Russia and its main threat, not Ukraine and not the West. Putin kills and wants to kill more.
15/16 The Kremlin is making you poorer, not Washington. It is not in London that economic policy is being conducted in such a way that a pensioner's "borscht set" has doubled in price, but in Moscow.
16/16 To fight for Russia, to save it, means to fight for the removal of Putin and his kleptocrats from power. But now it also means the banal “to fight for peace”.
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Putin tells ex-Soviet republics: Ukraine was an exception - report https://t.co/KtZolUW8l9 pic.twitter.com/vN9FI8NelM
— Reuters (@Reuters) February 22, 2022
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edit: hoću da kažem da su akcije iz tog playbooka već viđene
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War or not, biggest winner of last 48h is Iran.If Europe wants to diversify gas supplies its only major nearby producer w/spare capacity & will. US will be more amendable to concede to renew JCPOA & Biden now has good national security excuse when GOP will attack on concessions🧵 https://t.co/EuHntfS0sF
— Dov H. Levin (@dov_levin) February 22, 2022
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BREAKING: The UK is sanctioning 5 Russian banks (Rossiya Bank, IS bank, General Bank, Promsviazbank, Black Sea bank) and 3 oligarchs: Igor and Boris Rotenberg, and Gennadiy Timchenko. Pretty tepid if you ask me. The oligarchs have been on the US sanctions list since 2018
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German Chancellor Olaf Scholz has issued an order to halt the process of certifying the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline. Well. Welcome to the brave new world where Europeans are very soon going to pay €2.000 for 1.000 cubic meters of natural gas!
— Dmitry Medvedev (@MedvedevRussiaE) February 22, 2022
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Mór Thököly wrote:Zapravo to sto ne mogu da se dogovore oko sankcija je solidan faktor nestabilnosti.
Naprotiv, nisam uopste ocekivao da vec sada stopiraju NS2.
Sada je vec za ocekivati da ce se poceti sa potpunim stopiranjem kupovanja energenata iz Rusije, ako bude full scale invazija.
Pregovori sa Iranom idu dobro, tako da im je to verovatno OK prelazno resenje.
Paralelno ce verovatno jos vise da ubrzaju zeleni program smanjivanja potrosnje i prebacivanja svega moguceg na obnovljivu energiju.
Ne bih iskljucio i da ponovo zapale neku od nuklearki sto Francuzi ionako masovno rade i planiraju.
Jednom kad pocne da se prebacuje energetska infrastruktura Evrope, to je gotovo i nema vise nazad. Za 10 godina je ionako procena pada potrosnje nafte i gasa.
Rusiji ce biti potrebno dosta vremena da izgradi infrastrukturu do Kine koja ce imati jos veci ucenjivacki potencijal, a i sama se sve vise prebacuje na obnovljivu energiju.
Inkrementalni pristup sankcijama je OK jer Kremlju treba dati sansu na svakom koraku da dobro razmisli.
Ali, mislim da oni tamo zaista razmisljaju kao i Milosevic - sve takticke pobede protiv zapada ali strateski se sve vise gubi a najvise sama Rusija.
Dobro, nastradace Ukrajina jos mnogo vise i ako se pogleda istorija, to je verovatno najtragicinija zemlja od 1930. naovamo
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energija je samo deo te slike, sve i da se potpuno promeni slika, ostaje proizvodnja koja nema sirovine zato što se pomenila prerada nafte, a od te prerade zavise skoro svi proizvodi
cena gasa utiče direktno na mnogo proizvoda, ali još više utiče cena monomera koji se dobijaju iz gasa i nafte, samo čekam trenutak kada će kućište da bude skuplje od grafičke kartice
zeleni programi, obnovljivi izvori energije, reciklaža, sve to zajedno ne znači skoro ništa ako se suočimo sa potpunom nestašicom osnovnih sirovina, a tu nam neće mnogo pomoći Iran, potrebno je da proizvodnja u Nemačkoj i Francuskoj ostane bar na današnjem nivou, a to se neće desiti
ako ne bude dovoljno đubriva, situacija će biti mnogo gora od bilo koje krize koju smo do sada imali
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Vučić: "Neka oni osude agresiju nad Srbijom"
Predsednik Srbije Aleksandar Vučić rekao je da je Srbija vojno neutralna, ali njena politika nije neutralna.
On je kazao da je Srbija na putu u Evropsku uniju, ali neće odustati od tradicionalnih prijateljstava.
Vučić je kazao da je Ukrajina uvek podržavala suverenitet te zemlje.
Podsetimo, ambasador Ukrajine u Srbiji Oleksandar Aleksandrovič izjavio da Ukrajina i ukrajinski narod očekuju da Srbija osudi jučerašnji potez Rusije.
"On je od nas tražio da osudimo rusku agresiju, ja na to imam prost odgovor: mi smo mala zemlja, ne želimo sebi da ukidamo mogućnost prijateljstva, ne odlučujemo o budućnosti Ukrajine", rekao je Vučić.
Pozvao je ambasadora da pozove Zelenskog da osudi agresiju koju su nad Srbijom sprovele zemlje zapada.
"Pa kad on to učini, onda ću ja osuditi agresiju", rekao je on.
Vučić je rekao da je Srbija jedina koja se striktno drži međunarodnog prava.
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