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Del Cap wrote:
Ultrabajato.
1.10.2018.
https://www.rp.pl/wydarzenia/art1718581-telewizja-rossija-1-polsko-rosyjski-rozbior-ukrainy
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Cousin Billy wrote:ipak, želim da podsetim da u ruskim medijima gotovo da nema pripreme za rat. naravno da se casus belli može brzo oposliti ali što se ruske javnosti tiče napad na Ukrajinu došao bi iz vedra neba. koliko pratim njihove medije, tamo nema ni traga od nervoze koju vidimo u zapadnim informativnim redakcijama.
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plachkica wrote:jel stasao za 7 godina okupacije krima neki pokret koji bi se borio za oslobođenje?
Okupacija i aneksija su apsolutni, dosta precizni pojmovi, nebitno je šta stanovništvo misli o tome i nebitno je da li za te operacije postoji etičko ili istorijsko opravdanje/izgovor. Krim je vojno okupiran i nakon toga anektiran, nije valjda problem da se to tako zove?
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#BREAKING France's foreign minister warns 'all elements' are in place for 'major offensive' by Russia against Ukraine pic.twitter.com/hy40jbZsO4
— AFP News Agency (@AFP) February 14, 2022
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Cousin Billy wrote:ipak, želim da podsetim da u ruskim medijima gotovo da nema pripreme za rat.
U Ukrajini samo što nisu napravili koncentracione logore za Ruse u kojima će ih potrovati gasom, kaže šefica RT-a Margarita Simonjan u udarnoj trosatnoj večernjoj emisiji kod još jednog Putinovog propagandiste, Vladimira Solovjova, na ruskoj državnoj TV Rusija 1 i poziva na intervenciju radi zaštite sunarodnika od potomaka hordi Banderovaca tvrdeći da će sankcije Zapada biti smešne.
The camera zooms in on Simonyan. Big mistake! It only reveals that she isn't really crying. There is not one tear. The camera quickly pulls back. Stanislavski would be appalled. https://t.co/DPoDZR9ihZ pic.twitter.com/bHD9GOpf2o
— Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews) February 13, 2022
Simonyan dismisses the idea that Russia would face severe sanctions for openly invading Ukraine. She says: "What can they do to us? What did they do to us after Crimea? Where's our 'economy in tatters'? McCain is dead, Obama is gone, Putin is still here."https://t.co/QpLTckoG9Q pic.twitter.com/V2Pjzh5AnX
— Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews) February 13, 2022
Cela trosatna emisija:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5XIG6FuRO0
(samo link jer nije dozvoljeno ugrađivanje)
Edit: Ha, ladno su sklonili video. Juče je radio.
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rumbeando wrote:Cousin Billy wrote:ipak, želim da podsetim da u ruskim medijima gotovo da nema pripreme za rat.
U Ukrajini samo što nisu napravili koncentracione logore za Ruse u kojima će ih potrovati gasom, kaže šefica RT-a Margarita Simonjan u udarnoj trosatnoj večernjoj emisiji kod još jednog Putinovog propagandiste, Vladimira Solovjova, na ruskoj državnoj TV Rusija 1 i poziva na intervenciju radi zaštite sunarodnika od potomaka hordi Banderovaca tvrdeći da će sankcije Zapada biti smešne.The camera zooms in on Simonyan. Big mistake! It only reveals that she isn't really crying. There is not one tear. The camera quickly pulls back. Stanislavski would be appalled. https://t.co/DPoDZR9ihZ pic.twitter.com/bHD9GOpf2o
— Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews) February 13, 2022Simonyan dismisses the idea that Russia would face severe sanctions for openly invading Ukraine. She says: "What can they do to us? What did they do to us after Crimea? Where's our 'economy in tatters'? McCain is dead, Obama is gone, Putin is still here."https://t.co/QpLTckoG9Q pic.twitter.com/V2Pjzh5AnX
— Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews) February 13, 2022
Cela trosatna emisija:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5XIG6FuRO0
(samo link jer nije dozvoljeno ugrađivanje)
Edit: Ha, ladno su sklonili video. Juče je radio.
Dobrodosao
Kacio sam to juce, al ajd da kazemo da je usamljeni slucaj...mada...
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Da, zaboravih da sam video, previše informacija sa raznih strana.
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sta ako ameri kazu da nece da sire NATO? kako to mogu da obecaju? sta ako putin kaze da se novorusija mora reintegrisati u maticu? a sta je sa krimom? i on kod kuce ima hardlinere i jastrebove. sta god da se desi odnosi ce od sada ponovo biti hladnoratovski.
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And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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In the past 15 minutes on CNN we have heard: Zaporizhzhia mispronounced as Zaporizhifhfkenfknefn; the anchor say the skies over "eastern Ukraine" seem empty (they have been since MH17 shot down in 2014); and Zelensky's national address misinterpreted. Not great!
— Christopher Miller (@ChristopherJM) February 14, 2022
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Cousin Billy wrote:plachkica wrote:jel stasao za 7 godina okupacije krima neki pokret koji bi se borio za oslobođenje?
Okupacija i aneksija su apsolutni, dosta precizni pojmovi, nebitno je šta stanovništvo misli o tome i nebitno je da li za te operacije postoji etičko ili istorijsko opravdanje/izgovor. Krim je vojno okupiran i nakon toga anektiran, nije valjda problem da se to tako zove?
nisam bila sarkastična, najozbiljnije sam pitala
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This amounts to more than 60 per cent of Russia's ground combat power. Another 14 BTGs are also on their way.
— Larisa Brown (@larisamlbrown) February 14, 2022
Mapa WSJ-a koja pokazuje odakle su sve Rusi dovlačili vojsku:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/russian-buildup-near-ukraine-features-potent-weapons-systems-well-trained-troops-11644789065?mod=hp_lead_pos2
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Sori, to pitanje se obično postavlja u drugačijem duhuplachkica wrote:Cousin Billy wrote:
Okupacija i aneksija su apsolutni, dosta precizni pojmovi, nebitno je šta stanovništvo misli o tome i nebitno je da li za te operacije postoji etičko ili istorijsko opravdanje/izgovor. Krim je vojno okupiran i nakon toga anektiran, nije valjda problem da se to tako zove?
nisam bila sarkastična, najozbiljnije sam pitala
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And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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boomer crook wrote:nebitno sta budale pricaju ali sta je putinu izlaz iz ove situacije? sta je ukrajincima? sta je NATO-u? ovo vec ima posledice kao rat i sve da neko popusti.
sta ako ameri kazu da nece da sire NATO? kako to mogu da obecaju? sta ako putin kaze da se novorusija mora reintegrisati u maticu? a sta je sa krimom? i on kod kuce ima hardlinere i jastrebove. sta god da se desi odnosi ce od sada ponovo biti hladnoratovski.
Da, to jeste faktor. Kao sto je faktor i t osto Zelenski ima ogranicen prostor za delovanje u istom smislu.
Izlaz bi zaista mogao da bude neki Minsk 3, ali moraju jako brzo da rade. Ako se tumaci tako da Ukrajina ne moze da pristupi Natou bez saglasnosti "regiona" to jeste neka minimalna pobeda Moskve. To je u sustini ovo o cemu prica Scholz
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boomer crook wrote:ono sto je meni najmanje jasno je zasto amerikanci izigravaju baba vangu sa pocetkom ruske intervencije? sta ce se desiti ako 16-ti dodje i prodje?
pa sad sigurno nece napasti 16tog. Moze veceras i moze posle, ali 16ti je sad iskljucen
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The world will be watching in horror if Russia invades Ukraine this week — but just watching. Ukraine will fight alone, as Russian tanks roll across the flat, frozen terrain; precision bombs destroy key targets near Kyiv and other cities; and the country becomes a killing field unlike anything Europe has seen since 1945....But U.S. military officials say Putin has sent orders to his commanders to prepare for possible battle by the middle of this week, when the ground in central Ukraine will have frozen more than a foot deep, allowing rapid tank advance.
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