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ficfiric wrote:Nema nista od toga, kao ni prethodnih nekoliko puta kada je bacana ista ova koska koja bi se svaki put glodala po nekoliko dana.

Наша позиција је недовољно снажна и недовољно јака јер смо прилично усамљени у оваквој арени, где желимо да припадамо Европи, а немамо шта да кажемо по питању КиМ јер су сви на другој страни."

Del Cap wrote:Fantastično je ovo svaljivanje nekakve krivice na Putina zbog pominjanja Kosova u vezi sa Krimom i ruskim akcijama. Rusija je to i oficijelno govorila 2014. godine, a dobro sam zapamptio Putinov intervju pred posetu Beču 2018. u kojem je za austrijsku TV relativno široko govorio o tome.

Vladimir Putin: You know, if you do not like my answers, then do not ask me questions. But if you want to hear my opinion on the issues that I raise, then you need to have patience. I need to finish.

So, Crimea gained independence through the free will of the Crimeans expressed in an open referendum, not as a result of an invasion by Russian forces.

You are talking about annexation, but can we call a referendum held among all people living in the region annexation? Then Kosovo's self-determination was also annexation. Why do you not say Kosovo was annexed after the invasion of NATO troops? You do not say that. You are talking about the Kosovars’ right to self-determination.

The Kosovars did this by a parliamentary decision alone, while the Crimeans did it in a referendum, with an over 90 percent voter turnout – people living in Crimea came to vote for independence, and then for uniting with Russia, with about the same turnout – about 90 percent. Is this not democracy? What is it then? And what is democracy?

Armin Wolf: Mr President, the referendum was still unconstitutional.

Vladimir Putin: Why?

Armin Wolf: It did not comply with the Ukrainian legislation, the Ukrainian Constitution. It was not a free referendum, Western observers say.

As for what you are saying about Kosovo, you have called Kosovo’s declaration of independence immoral and illegal, and have not recognised it yet. How can this be?

Vladimir Putin: This is quite possible, and I will tell you why. Because during the political changes and military conflict in the former Yugoslavia, the UN Court issued a decision with regard to Kosovo (I can give you a quote), which explicitly said (read it and then read it out loud for your viewers and listeners): “The consent of the central authorities of the country is not mandatory in determining the issues of sovereignty.” This is how the UN Court commented on the Kosovo events, and now you are saying…

Armin Wolf: There were some very clear conditions there that were not met in Crimea. This is what all international observers say.

Vladimir Putin: What are they?

Armin Wolf: There is no one who would recognise that vote, there is no one who would recognise the annexation.

Vladimir Putin: Your arguments sound completely unconvincing, because no one has to recognise the will of citizens residing in a certain area. This fully complies with the UN Court decision. There is no other interpretation, but some people are trying to find ways to interpret this situation differently.

Armin Wolf: May I take you at your word?

Vladimir Putin: Try it.

Ne sećam se da se tada zvanični Beograd toliko vozbudio, iste Putinove reči tada nisu teško pale, odlučili su da se prave slepi i na pozicije Moskve ali i na ceo kompleks rata u Ukraijini.

Del Cap wrote:Šokiran sam saznanjima o slabosti pozicije, kolko do juče smo bili najpoštovaniji u istoriji i sav taj džez.