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    Post by паће Thu Aug 27, 2020 1:50 pm

    Thierry Breton, even said Belarus isn’t part of Europe.

    Још један за културно-поправни кампРЖ за одвикавање.


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    Post by rumbeando Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:13 pm

    Divna jedna zemlja:

    Belarus detains around 20 journalists preparing to cover protest - Reuters witness
    https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-belarus-election-journalists/belarus-detains-around-20-journalists-preparing-to-cover-protest-reuters-witness-idUKKBN25N2FH

    Group of Journalists Covering Protests Taken to Minsk Police 'for Identification'
    https://sputniknews.com/europe/202008271080295212-group-of-journalists-covering-protests-taken-to-minsk-police/

    Several journalists apprehended in Minsk, including TASS press photographer Bobylev
    https://tass.com/society/1194583
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    Post by rumbeando Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:21 pm

    27 AUG, 15:40

    Putin: Mass protests in Belarus must be taken into account

    The Russian president pointed out that his Belarusian counterpart Alexander Lukashenko expressed readiness to look into adoption of a new Constitution, which may provide for new parliamentary and presidential elections


    MINSK, August 27. /TASS/. Belarusian authorities must take the ongoing street protests into account, Russian President Vladimir Putin said in his interview for Rossiya-24 TV Channel Wednesday.

    "We believe that all participants of this process [the crisis in Belarus] will have enough common sense to find a way out calmly, without extremities," Putin said. "Of course, if people have taken to the streets, one must take it into account, listen to them, react."

    The Russian president pointed out that his Belarusian counterpart Alexander Lukashenko expressed readiness to look into adoption of a new Constitution, which may provide for new parliamentary and presidential elections.

    "The Belarusian president, he did say that he is ready to look into an option to hold a constitutional reform, to adopt a new Constitution, to hold new elections, […] based on this new Constitution, but one cannot go beyond the boundaries of the existing Constitution," Putin said. "Have you noticed that the Belarusian Constitutional Court ruled that creation of some super-constitutional bodies, not provided for by the basic law, seeking to seize power, is totally unacceptable? And this is hard to disagree with."

    Earlier, Lukashenko proposed to amend the Constitution in a bid to redistribute the authority of different levels of power and to relegate a portion of powers "down." He also proposed to write down obligatory military service as a prerequisite for a presidential candidate. According to Lukashenko, the new Constitution must be adopted via a referendum. New elections are only possible after a new Constitution is adopted, he said.

    ...

    https://tass.com/world/1194445
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    Post by rumbeando Thu Aug 27, 2020 9:42 pm

    Dragi novinari, izvol'te u maricu.



    (tipična DB marica bez registarskih tablica stiže na 2:18)
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    Post by rumbeando Thu Aug 27, 2020 11:15 pm

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    Post by rumbeando Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:10 am

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    Post by Guest Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:36 am

    https://dgap.org/en/research/publications/four-scenarios-crisis-belarus

    FOUR SCENARIOS FOR THE CRISIS IN BELARUS

    Frozen Belarus: The regime survives with Russia’s help but without a bloody crackdown. Control over society is restored but remains fragile. Economic crisis triggers new unrest. The EU maintains sanctions and supports civil society but has little room for maneuver in Belarus.

    Slow-Moving, Transitional Belarus: After his inauguration, President Lukashenko announces a political transition. A new constitution is adopted, and elections are held in 2021. While opposition is tolerated, the transition is dominated by regime elites who champion their favored candidates. Both Russia and some member states of the EU are actively involved.

    Blood-Soaked Belarus: Protests continue, provoking a large-scale, violent crackdown with many fatalities. Internal conflicts grow within the regime. Moscow keeps dominating the process via its links to Belarusian security elites. The EU’s role is limited to damage control.

    Force Majeure in Belarus: Lukashenko leaves his post unexpectedly and presidential elections must be held within 70 days. Independent candidates backed by various external players run; a politician who is supported by Russia wins. The EU prefers to rely on the OSCE rather than act on its own.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:43 am

    Za sad je prvi najrealniji. Videcemo sutra Bela Rusija - Page 29 1399639816
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    Post by Guest Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:54 am

    Zasto bas sutra?
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    Post by паће Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:07 am

    Ма то као кад на кафани пише "сутра бесплатно пиво".


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:02 am

    Vasa wrote:Zasto bas sutra?

    Figurativno sutra Bela Rusija - Page 29 1143415371
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    Post by rumbeando Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:01 pm

    Evo kako izgledaju vesti glavnog državnog nacionalnog kanala Belorusija 1 za juče i prekjuče:



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    Post by rumbeando Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:26 pm

    2020 Presidential Election. Preliminary report on election observation. Full text

    Observation of the presidential election is carried out by the Belarusian Helsinki Committee and the Human Rights Center “Viasna” in the framework of the campaign “Human Rights Defenders for Free Elections”.
    https://spring96.org/files/misc/2020_election_preliminary_report_en.pdf

    Tizer: opozicija je na 5767 biračkih mesta u celoj državi sveukupno imala celih 6 članova biračkih odbora.

    ...out of 25 candidates from opposition parties, only two were included in the TECs, and out of 545 candidates nominated by opposition parties, only 6 people were included in the PECs (1.1%). Representatives of opposition parties in the TECs accounted for 0.1% of their members, and in the PECs - 0.009%, which is five times less than in the 2015 presidential election.

    CEC = Central Election Commission
    TECs = Territorial Election Commissions
    PECs = Precinct Election Commissions
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    Post by rumbeando Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:33 pm

    Dobar i dosta detaljan članak na temu gašenja i cenzure interneta u Belorusiji na sajtu o tehničkim novotarijama Gizmodo.



    Mesečno kretanje broja pretplatnika najpopularnijeg Telegram kanala @nexta_live u Belorusiji:

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    U celom svetu postoji svega 8 telegram kanala sa preko dva miliona pretplatnika: nexta_live je jedini informativni kanal među njima (Telegram News je kanal s objavama o razvoju aplikacije Telegram). Poređenja radi, najpopularniji informativni telegram kanal u 15x većoj Rusiji (zemlji iz koje je potekla aplikacija Telegram) je Mash (@breakingmash) sa manje od 900 hiljada pretplatnika (izvor).

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    Post by rumbeando Fri Aug 28, 2020 5:23 pm

    Kad treba gušiti neželjene informacije, dobra je i američka oprema.
    The government of Belarus shut down access to much of the internet during a crucial election this month by using equipment manufactured by a U.S. company to block people's access to thousands of websites, according to two people familiar with the matter.

    Sandvine Inc. makes what's known as “deep packet inspection” equipment, used to monitor and filter network traffic. It was obtained by Belarus’s National Traffic Exchange Center, which manages the country’s internet networks, as part of a $2.5 million contract with the Russian technology supplier Jet Infosystems, which supplied the Sandvine equipment, according to government documents and the people.

    In soliciting bids for new technology in 2018, the government said it needed help with “countering violations” associated with internet activity. But the real potency of the technology it obtained didn’t become clear until about two weeks ago, when large parts of the internet inside Belarus went dark during one of the most consequential elections in nearly 30 years.

    As voters went to the polls on Aug. 9 to pass judgment on the country’s authoritarian leader, President Alexander Lukashenko, social media websites like Twitter and Facebook suddenly became inaccessible, and news sources from outside the country were blocked. Protesters soon found ways around the blockage, using their own anti-censorship technology.
    ...
    Large swaths of the internet were inaccessible inside Belarus for at least three days. People inside the country lost access to thousands of websites, including Google, YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, and American and British news websites such as CNN.com and BBC.co.uk, according to Alp Toker, chief executive officer of the civil society group NetBlocks, which monitors the internet. Cellphone app stores, as well as popular messaging apps, including WhatsApp, Telegram, and Viber, were also affected, he said.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-28/belarusian-officials-shut-down-internet-with-technology-made-by-u-s-firm
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    Post by rumbeando Fri Aug 28, 2020 6:57 pm

    Rusija se protivi slanju misije OEBS-a u Minsk pošto Lukašenkov dijalog s opozicijom, je li, odlično napreduje.

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    Post by rumbeando Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:22 pm

    Statement
    27.08.2020, 17:54

    The Coordinating Council considers unacceptable the formation of armed groups on the territory of the Russian Federation or another state for use in Belarus: this is contrary to international law and the consolidated position of Belarusian society.

    We regret that at the request of the incumbent president, who should act as the guarantor of the Constitution, the Russian Federation has formed a reserve of law enforcement officers for their use on the territory of Belarus. Previously, the acting president has repeatedly stated that external interference in the affairs of Belarus is unacceptable.

    The reason for using the CSTO mechanisms is exclusively armed attack. We see no reason to get the situation inside Belarus out of control. Only peaceful actions, supported by the majority of Belarusians, are held in Belarus.

    We welcome and support the position of all foreign partners of Belarus, who note that:

    1. What is happening in Belarus is an internal matter of Belarus; any form of external interference is unacceptable.

    2. The authorities should hear people and engage in a dialogue with representatives of society.

    3. All problems in Belarus should be solved peacefully, there are no extremist elements in Belarus, and this should continue to be the case.

    The Coordination Council confirms that problems of internal political crisis should be solved exclusively within the constitutional field, within the framework of the law and by peaceful means without external interference.

    The Coordination Council does not aim to gain power, change the constitutional order and foreign policy course, expresses its position and conducts its work within the framework of the law. All accusations of the Coordination Council's use of unconstitutional methods and instruments not stipulated by law are false, which is confirmed by program documents and explanations of the members of the Presidium of the Coordination Council.

    Since the Coordination Council has a position of non-interference in the internal affairs of Belarus, we ask any foreign partners to refrain from making statements about representing the interests of Belarusian society, providing assistance to the Coordination Council, etc.

    The Coordinating Council will not accept any foreign aid and will not participate directly or indirectly in its distribution. The Coordinating Council will perform only those functions that are stipulated in the Regulation. The purpose of the Coordinating Council is to express the position of the Belarusian society.

    Only an internal dialogue can be a solution to a political crisis.
    https://rada.vision/zayavlenie
    (translation by Deepl)
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    Post by rumbeando Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:46 pm



    A Belarus death squad has been confirmed responsible for the disappearance of three opposition leaders in 1999, when Alexander Lukashenko started consolidating his hold on power. In an exclusive interview with DW, a witness has spoken out for the first time. Back then, when the three opposition leaders disappeared without a trace, rumors began circulating that they had been assassinated by a death squad.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:12 pm

    Nema coveka nema problema. Ali jel si vido kako su im ciste ulice....
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    Post by паће Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:19 pm

    ...као што су Мусолинијеви возови стизали на време.


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    Post by rumbeando Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:40 am

    'Tightening The Screws': Belarus' Lukashenko Shows No Sign Of Bending To Protests

    August 28, 20205:10 PM ET

    LUCIAN KIM

    Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko appears to be regaining the upper hand after mass demonstrations against his reelection in an Aug. 9 vote criticized as neither free nor fair by the U.S. and the European Union.

    For opposition supporters, a sense of dread is replacing the euphoria of some of the largest protests in Belarus since its independence from the Soviet Union in 1991.

    "The government is now tightening the screws very tightly, and it's becoming quite dangerous," said Yelena, 44, a volunteer in the campaign office of Viktor Babariko, one of Lukashenko's challengers in the election who was barred from running and jailed on fraud charges.

    "This week people continued to go out on the street, despite all the threats and warnings that they would be arrested," said Yelena, who asked that her last name not be used because she faces persecution as an opposition activist.

    "It's become scary because they can go after you simply for things like the color of your clothes," she said. "It's like George Orwell's 1984. They can punish you for wearing red and white, or a white bracelet, or a T-shirt with a slogan."

    Belarus' white-red-white flag has become a symbol of the opposition to Lukashenko, who, after becoming president in 1994, introduced a green and red flag reminiscent of the nation's Soviet-era flag.

    Red and white became the colors of Svetlana Tikhanovskaya, the opposition candidate who united the three campaigns of her jailed husband Sergei Tikhanovsky, Babariko and Viktor Tsepkalo, a former ambassador to the U.S. who had to flee the country. After the election, Tikhanovskaya too was forced to leave Belarus, and is now based in neighboring Lithuania.

    What's left of the organized opposition to Lukashenko is a "coordination council" that wants to facilitate a dialogue with the regime for a peaceful transition of power. Lukashenko refuses to talk to the group, and the authorities have opened a criminal case against it.

    On Wednesday, investigators called in Svetlana Alexievich, Belarus' Nobel literature laureate and a council member, for questioning. Earlier two leaders of the council were given 10-day jail sentences for allegedly holding an illegal rally.

    "We will not be silenced and forget what happened. We demand all those responsible be investigated and brought to justice, and that law and justice be restored," Maria Kolesnikova, one of the council's leaders, said in a video appeal this week.

    In the first days of the protests, police arrested almost 7,000 demonstrators. When they were released from prison, many of them spoke of being subjected to indiscriminate beatings and torture.

    The protests and strikes that followed rattled the Lukashenko regime, says Artyom Shraibman, a political analyst in Minsk, but now the demonstrations in the capital are not as widespread and visible as before.

    It's still too early to say that Lukashenko has won, Shraibman says, because protesters could turn out in force if the crackdown is too harsh.

    "Until the protests have subsided completely, we cannot say they're over because they're basically like fire," Shraibman said. "In theory, the authorities are capable of putting some more gasoline on the fire."

    The opposition council, he said, has limited room for maneuver.

    "Probably the best thing that they can do is resist all of Lukashenko's efforts to drag them into framing the conflict as geopolitical," Shraibman said.

    On Friday, Lukashenko visited a cheese factory in the city of Orsha, draping a white cape over his suit as he inspected the machinery. It wasn't long before he was warning dairy workers that American F-16 fighter planes were now just a 20-minute flight away from the border — maybe even armed with nuclear weapons, he said.

    "They don't need Belarus. Belarus is just a springboard, as usual, to get to Russia," Lukashenko said, referring to Swedish, French and German invasions over the centuries that all led through Belarus.

    Lukashenko has been talking up the threat from Belarus' NATO neighbors ever since mass protests broke out after the disputed election, which he claimed to have won in a landslide. Before the vote, Lukashenko had warned that it was enemies based in Russia who were trying to divide Belarus.

    A political survivor, Lukashenko has now secured the Kremlin's backing while branding his domestic opponents as pawns of the West. On Thursday, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that on Lukashenko's request, Russia had put together a rapid-reaction force that could intervene in Belarus if necessary. That same evening, Lukashenko's riot police detained more than 260 people at a peaceful rally in Minsk, including 50 journalists.

    But Putin's support for Lukashenko has alienated many Belarusians, who generally have warm feelings toward Russia.

    "We expected something else. We always assumed that Putin and Russia would support the Belarusian people and not one particular individual, especially when they see how hard it is for Belarusians right now," said opposition activist Yelena.

    She said she hopes the weather is good this weekend so people turn out for renewed protests across the country.

    https://www.npr.org/2020/08/28/906992368/tightening-the-screws-belarus-lukashenko-shows-no-sign-of-bending-to-protests
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    Post by rumbeando Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:47 am

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:55 am

    Nisu oni dobro izucili istoooriju. Prvo ovo nije 1989 (a ni 2000, mada Srbija 2k je druga prica). Elite na vlsti su digle ruke 1989 u zamenu za deo kolača. Nisu ga svidobili, ali deo najvisih struktura jeste. Ovo je drugaciji, licni rezim, cak i bez puno oligarhije, drugaciji je zadatak pred opozicijom. S jedne strane na neki nacin lakse je boriti se sa licnim rezimom. S druge strane ima faktor nesrecne Putinove Rusije koji je u BLR mnogo jak i zajeban. Objektivno, bice cupavo, mora mnogo da ih izadje na ulicu i u nekom momentu moraju da idu do kraja.

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