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    Post by Guest Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:47 pm

    Sotir wrote:На оном тргу тешко може да стане 100 хиљада људи. Са камера се не виде добро сви крајеви, видимо да има делова који су збијенији, и тамо где се слободно шета. Можда неки просек од 1.5 човека по квм.
    Ако је 40 хиљада квм површина под демонстантима, са густином као у првом плану може бити 60 хиљада људи. Ако је гушће у центру, може да буде и 80 хиљада. Али сто хиљада тешко.

    šta menja to da li ih je 800 hiljada ili 40 hiljada?
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    Post by Daï Djakman Faré Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:49 pm

    disident wrote:
    evo ja sam napravio mim  Bela Rusija - Page 26 1233199462

    kisa u minsku: pada
    internet: zlokobno znamenje buducih dogadjaja


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    i would like to talk here about The Last of Us on HBO... and yeah, yeah i know.. the world is burning but lets just all sit and talk about television. again - what else are we doing with ourselves ? we are not creating any militias. but my god we still have the content. appraising content is the american modus vivendi.. that's why we are here for. to absorb the content and then render some sort of a judgment on content. because there is a buried hope that if enough people have the right opinion about the content - the content will get better which will then flow to our structures and make the world a better place
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    Post by Erős Pista Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:55 pm

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    "Oni kroz mene gledaju u vas! Oni kroz njega gledaju u vas! Oni kroz vas gledaju u mene... i u sve nas."

    Dragoslav Bokan, Novi putevi oftalmologije
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    Post by Guest Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:13 pm

    Mór Thököly wrote:
    Telegram channel NEXTA

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    Telegram je u fajtu sa ruskim vlastima, do pre 2-3 meseca su bili blokirani (mestimično uspešno) od operatera u Rusiji po nalogu države, osnivač je odavno napustio Rusiju, u suštini ih ogromna većina opozicionara koristi baš zbog bezbednosti (ili percepcije bezbednosti), pa tako i Nexta u BLR.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:17 pm

    Baš zato  Bela Rusija - Page 26 2304934895 :nemozestinasegcovekazajebat:
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    Post by Sotir Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:33 pm

    Talason wrote:
    šta menja to da li ih je 800 hiljada ili 40 hiljada?
    Лукашенка Bela Rusija - Page 26 2952840586
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    Post by rumbeando Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:31 am

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    Post by Guest Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:03 am

    Počeo crackdown. Na današnjem danu lomi se cela priča.

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    Post by rumbeando Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:11 pm

    Lukašenko danas izjavio da nastavnici koji ne slede državnu ideologiju ne treba da budu u školi:

    Он отметил, что в Беларуси государственное образование, государственные школы, государственная идеология. "И те, кто хотят следовать этим принципам, пожалуйста, милости просим: идите преподавайте, учите, работайте. Те, кто не хочет, значит, они в школе быть не должны. Это надо говорить прямо, откровенно и честно", - заявил Александр Лукашенко.
    https://www.belta.by/president/view/lukashenko-trebuet-zaschitit-uchitelej-v-shkolah-ot-vsjakih-napadok-403901-2020/

    Translation by Deepl:
    He noted that Belarus has state education, public schools and state ideology. "And those who want to follow these principles, please, be gracious: go teach, learn, work. Those who do not want to, so they should not be in school. You have to say it directly, frankly and honestly," said Alexander Lukashenko.
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    Post by disident Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:17 pm

    Pa po svemu sto smo videli juce , ocigledno da ce se ovo gusiti represijom i silom na svim nivoima, od pendrecenja, otkaza, privodjenja do toga da neke pojede mrak.


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    Jedini proleter Burundija
    Pristalica krvne osvete
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    Post by rumbeando Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:44 pm

    Lavrov tvrdi da opozicioni protesti jenjavaju i da opozicija želi krvoproliće:

    Russia's Lavrov says Belarus opposition wants bloodshed
    Foreign minister compares protests in Eastern European country with situation in Venezuela


    Elena Teslova
    23.08.2020

    The Russian foreign minister on Sunday said the Belarusian opposition is not happy over its "waning" support for protests, and wants bloodshed.

    Speaking at the Terra Scientia National Youth Educational Forum in Solnechnogorsk, Moscow Region, Sergey Lavrov said the law enforcers do not interfere in peaceful demonstrations but "some Belarusian opposition figures who live in the West, and try to influence events in their country from there" are provoking for hostilities.

    He compared the protests in Belarus with what happened in Venezuela, saying the Belarusian opposition follows the Venezuelan model, and is asking President Alexander Lukashenko to have talks only to discuss his resignation.

    In Venezuela, President Nicolas Maduro and the opposition are engaged in a bitter power struggle. Maduro was re-elected to a second six-year term in May 2018 in elections opposition says were rigged.

    Lavrov said calls to law enforcers "to come over to the peoples side," are illegitimate, because they urge to break the oath.

    The fact that opposition leader Svetlana Tikhanovskay appeals most often in English rather than Belarusian shows where her interests lie, he said.

    ...
    https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/russias-lavrov-says-belarus-opposition-wants-bloodshed/1950964
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    Post by rumbeando Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:05 pm

    Zvanične cifre beloruskog MUP-a o posećenosti Lukašenkovog kontramitinga i opozicionog protesta. Na obe slike je isti trg.

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    Post by rumbeando Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:19 pm

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    Post by rumbeando Mon Aug 24, 2020 2:36 pm

    Pojavljuju se tvrdnje da su udeli glasova po zvaničnim rezultatima na nekoliko biračkih mesta potpuno identični.

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    Post by rumbeando Mon Aug 24, 2020 2:41 pm



    Prevod by Deepl:
    Four employees of the Belarussian Philharmonic Society were summoned to the police department. They went out to protest outside their own building with banners and sang songs.
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    Post by Guest Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:13 pm

    Rusi opomenuli Lukašenka da ne dira mirne demonstrante (Peskov tako rekao, a preneo TASS), i obećali da će Belorusija prva dobiti vakcinu Sputnik 5.
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    Post by Guest Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:13 pm

    Zbirna poruka: nikakve destabilizacjie ne sme da bude u Belorusiji, or else.
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    Post by rumbeando Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:21 pm

    Belarus / How people are tortured in jails / My arrest and imprisonment / The People

    Hey guys! You have been asking me to go to Belarus for a long time. I wanted to do that as well. And now I am there. I have not seen such terrible things neither in Venezuela nor in North Korea. I went to Minsk immediately after the first days of protests and spent two days in a detention facility on Okrestina street.



    (dostupan engleski titl)
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    Post by rumbeando Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:28 pm

    Peskov na engleskom sa TASS-ovog sajta:

    24 AUG, 12:08

    Kremlin hopes wave of violence in Belarus is avoided

    The Kremlin spokesman noted that the law enforcement agencies perform their duties correctly


    MOSCOW, August 24. /TASS/. Moscow notes that the Belarusian protesters’ actions do not lead to clashes with the law enforcement, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Monday, expressing hope that clashes will also be avoided in the future.

    "So far, we note that no provocation from the protesters took place. We note that the law enforcement agencies perform their duties correctly. […] We hope that any provocations in this regard will be successfully avoided and prevented in the future," Peskov told journalists.

    The spokesman noted that various rallies in Belarus do not lead to riots.

    "Consecutively, there is no need for any harsh measures from the law enforcement," he said.


    Peskov also said that Russia is not in talks with the Belarusian opposition’s coordination council.

    "No, we have no channels of contacts. No talks are underway," Peskov said, while answering media questions if Moscow tried to establish contacts with the oppositional forces in Belarus.

    Moscow prefers politicians that advocate cooperation between Russia and Belarus, but Kremlin has no intention to meddle in the situation in the neighboring country, according to the Kremlin spokesman.

    "Of course, we prefer those politicians in Belarus who advocate consistent movement towards allied relations, who advocate mutually beneficial partnership between our two brotherly nations," he said.

    In the meantime, the spokesman underscored that making any contacts with the opposition would fall into meddling in Belarus’s internal affairs category in any case.

    "We criticize those who do it, we consider it wrong and we are not going to do it ourselves. At least, not now, during this so-called ‘hot phase’," he said.

    According to Peskov, Belarus’ opposition has scant intentions to maintain friendly ties with Russia.

    "We saw some texts, some text drafts which were accessible in the media outlets, they are still accessible where the intentions to continue friendly relations were declared in the least degree," the spokesman said answering a reporter’s question whether there are those among the Belarusian opposition who expresses serious anti-Russian views.

    The Kremlin representative noted that the Coordination council of the Belarusian opposition is a somewhat informal structure and its "position on various issues is mobile, it changes." "There is no clear position, thus it is difficult for us to make a judgement in this case," he added.

    The spokesman refused to comment on the actions of security structures during rallies in Belarus. "This is the internal affair of Belarus, we are not going to interfere," he said.

    The Kremlin spokesman also declined to comment on the footage of Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko arriving at his residence in a bulletproof vest carrying a machine gun. "I will not answer this question," the Kremlin representative said.
    https://tass.com/world/1193047
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    Post by rumbeando Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:45 pm

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    Post by Guest Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:48 pm

    Третий этап проверки боевой готовности вооруженных сил начался в Белоруссии 24 августа, он подразумевает призыв военнослужащих из запаса, сообщили в пресс-службе минобороны республики.

    «В ходе проверки предусматривается приведение отдельных воинских частей в высшие степени боевой готовности с призывом военнослужащих из запаса», — указано в сообщении.

    В белорусском военном ведомстве добавили, что в рамках проверки отдельные воинские части будут приведены в «высшие степени боевой готовности». Проверка завершится проведением тактического учения.

    Проверка проводится для оценки способности и готовности воинских частей круглосуточно выполнять свои задачи в «динамично меняющейся обстановке», а также для совершенствования боевой выучки войск, объяснили в министерстве.

    https://www.vedomosti.ru/society/news/2020/08/24/837598-v-belorusskuyu-armiyu-prizovut-voennih-iz-zapasa-dlya-proverki-boegotovnosti
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    Post by Guest Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:48 pm

    Pozvali Svetlanu Aleksijevič na saslušanje u sredu, boli ih kurac.
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    Post by MNE Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:34 pm

    rumbeando wrote:Pojavljuju se tvrdnje da su udeli glasova po zvaničnim rezultatima na nekoliko biračkih mesta potpuno identični.

    nije bitno ko kako glasa..
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    Post by rumbeando Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:22 am

    Izveštaj platforme Golos (Glas) kojoj su građani na dan izbora prijavljivali za koga su glasali ili slali slike zaokruženih listića u kome se u suštini tvrdi da je Lukašenko dvostruko pokrao izbore - i u samim zapisnicima i pri sabiranju zapisnika.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kSprtBUUtS1vb-W_jc4QJkPkoZPJBWxd/view (na ruskom)

    Ovde ima dobar pregled na engleskom na koje su sve načine ti izbori neregularni - od zabrane kandidatura najpopularnijih protivnika, preko potpuno kontrolisanih biračkih odbora i nemogućnosti nezavisnog posmatranja do krađe na biračkim mestima i u CIK-u, praktično severnokorejske medije i pritiske na glasače zavisne od državne plate da i ne spominjemo:

    http://euromaidanpress.com/2020/08/21/statistics-dont-lie-how-alyaksandr-lukashenka-rigged-the-belarus-presidential-election-exclusive/

    Raspodela glasova po zvaničnim rezultatima je potpuno neprirodna i žestoko odstupa od normalne, što se vidi na sledeća dva grafika:

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    http://euromaidanpress.com/2020/08/21/statistics-dont-lie-how-alyaksandr-lukashenka-rigged-the-belarus-presidential-election-exclusive/

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    https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2020/08/13/86651-vbroshennyy-prezident

    Ovo su dve urađene procene realnih rezultata:

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    http://euromaidanpress.com/2020/08/21/statistics-dont-lie-how-alyaksandr-lukashenka-rigged-the-belarus-presidential-election-exclusive/

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    https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2020/08/13/86651-vbroshennyy-prezident
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    Post by rumbeando Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:37 am

    Sajmon Ostrovski (ex Vice) izveštava za PBS iz Minska:

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