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    Mhm
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    Post by kondo Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:02 am

    Jedna laborantkinja sa nefrologije u Nišu je u izolaciji i čeka se nalaz. Nefrologija i ambulanta su zatvoreni, gomila osoblja i lekara koji su bili u kontaktu je u izolaciji. Bemti, prebrzo je krenulo da se širi kroz sistem.


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    Post by rumbeando Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:04 am

    U Italiji je broj umrlih trenutno 6,6% registrovanih slučajeva. Pre nedelju dana i preopterećenja sistema bio je 0,9%.

    Izvor: https://covid19info.live/
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    Post by bemty Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:06 am

    ova moja konferencija u US krajem aprila se i dalje kao odrzava Virus - Page 18 286371741 skupili se da razgovaraju i odlucili da nastave kao da nista nije bilo. fascinantno je da ne vide da nema sanse da im ljudi dodju. pa cak i u US univerziteti salju zaposlenima instrukcije da ne idu na konferencije, a studente salju kuci.

    ovde u ox je situacija komplikovana. studenti su iz celog sveta, zive u univerzitetskom smestaju, tako da bi zatvaranje univerziteta prakticno znacilo da vise nemaju smestaj i hranu i da moraju nekud. sigurno postoje neka prelazna resenja, ali nisu ih jos objavili.


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    Post by rumbeando Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:09 am

    Evropska unija pokazala je da nije spremna da se izbori sa epidemijom koronavirusa, izjavio je bugarski premijer Bojko Borisov tokom zasedanja Saveta bezbednosti te zemlje.

    „Nijedna od članica EU ne poseduje dovoljnu rezervu maski, zaštitne odeće, aspiratora, respiratora, navlaka za obuću, rukavica. Nijedna – zato što niko nije mogao da predvidi ovakav razvoj situacije.
    https://rs-lat.sputniknews.com/svet/202003111122016715-bugarski-premijer-evropa-nespremna-da-se-izbori-sa-koronavirusom-video/

    Apsolutno niko nije mogao da predvidi, virusi se obično zaustavljaju na državnim granicama, ovaj je potpuno atipičan.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:04 pm

    The European countries that are not part of the Schengen zone, and whose citizens are therefore exempt from Trump’s ban are: Albania, Andora, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Georgia, Ireland, Kosovo, North Macedonia, Moldova, Monaco, Montenegro, Romania, Russia, San Marino, Serbia, Turkey, Ukraine, The United Kingdom and Vatican City.


    Sad kad krene prebacivanje...
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    Post by boomer crook Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:13 pm

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    Post by Guest Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:24 pm

    bilo koji topik na forumu:



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    Post by Летећи Полип Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:28 pm

    Luca Franzese, instruktor fitnessa i glumac koji se pojavio u talijanskoj kriminalističkoj televizijskoj seriji Gomorra, tvrdi da je njegova sestra Teresa u subotu umrla u svome domu u Napulju te da joj je bila dijagnosticirana bolest COVID-19, bolest koju uzrokuje koronavirus, piše Sky News.


    Franzese je na svom Facebook profilu objavio nekoliko videa, uključujući i jedan u kojem se u pozadini može vidjeti tijelo njegove sestre, za koje tvrdi da ga je država odbacila.


    "Moja je sestra jučer umrla, vjerojatno zbog virusa, a ja od jučer navečer čekam odgovore", rekao je u videu. "Ljudi, propali smo. Italija nas je napustila."


    https://www.jutarnji.hr/vijesti/svijet/video-uznemirujuci-vapaj-glumca-iz-kultne-talijanske-tv-serije-zarobljen-sam-u-stanu-s-tijelom-svoje-sestre-koja-je-umrla-od-koronavirusa/10083628/




    Naslov je idiotski. Čovek ne kuka zato što je zarobljen u stanu, već zato što im niko ne pomaže.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:30 pm

    bruno sulak wrote:Virus - Page 18 3579118792

    Pazi, trenurno ako si Srb negde na zapadu evrope u nekoj kompaniji mozes u Rusiju i Kinu bez vize i u US uopste. Ne znam pasos koji trenutno to moze.
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    Post by zvezda je zivot Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:59 pm

    bruno sulak wrote:inace gobert kaze da je mogao da igra veceras. kao oseca kao da ima blagu prehladu.

    pa tako ide korona - podmuklo. prvo kao blaga prehlada, mogu da igram, izdrzacu na nogama, onda kad se u sledecoj fazi optereti pluca i srce... ako te ne hospitalizuju caozdravo

    ali evo, dobre vesti, otoplilo. danas 25 stepeni, suncano, ljudi sredjeni, nasmejani na ulicama. danas koroni kazemo: dosta je bilo!


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    Post by Летећи Полип Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:00 pm

    Restart!


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    Post by kondo Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:16 pm

    koja glupost, virus zivi u ljudskom organizmu na 37C a umrece na 25C napolju.

    ukljucite mozak ako vam virus nije usao u neurosistem.


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    Post by Guest Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:22 pm

    Постоји нешто чега нема у људском телу на 36.3, а има напољу на 25.
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    Post by kondo Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:44 pm

    sranje na ostrvu. pristigao feri na kome je uocen jedan saspekt na koronu. ceo feri prebacili u bolnicu u mirini u izolaciju i posmatranje.

    eto samo nam je ovo trebalo, no enivejz bilo je izvesno da ce se desiti.

    ortak kaze da su grci jednako ludi isto se pozivaju na gene plus na pravoslavlje, to nisam video ovde do sada


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    Post by rumbeando Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:49 pm

    Šef misije SZO u Kini Aylward opisao kineski sistem, još čekamo da vidimo hoće li se ijedna zapadna zemlja organizovati ovako efikasno.

    How did the Chinese reorganize their medical response?

    First, they moved 50 percent of all medical care online so people didn’t come in. Have you ever tried to reach your doctor on Friday night? Instead, you contacted one online. If you needed prescriptions like insulin or heart medications, they could prescribe and deliver it.

    But if you thought you had coronavirus?

    You would be sent to a fever clinic. They would take your temperature, your symptoms, medical history, ask where you’d traveled, your contact with anyone infected. They’d whip you through a CT scan …

    Wait — “whip you through a CT scan”?

    Each machine did maybe 200 a day. Five, 10 minutes a scan. Maybe even partial scans. A typical hospital in the West does one or two an hour. And not X-rays; they could come up normal, but a CT would show the “ground-glass opacities” they were looking for.

    (Dr. Aylward was referring to lung abnormalities seen in coronavirus patients.)

    And then?

    If you were still a suspect case, you’d get swabbed. But a lot would be told, “You’re not Covid.” People would come in with colds, flu, runny noses. That’s not Covid. If you look at the symptoms, 90 percent have fever, 70 percent have dry coughs, 30 percent have malaise, trouble breathing. Runny noses were only 4 percent.

    The swab was for a PCR test, right? How fast could they do that? Until recently, we were sending all of ours to Atlanta.

    They got it down to four hours.

    So people weren’t sent home?

    No, they had to wait. You don’t want someone wandering around spreading virus.

    If they were positive, what happened?

    They’d be isolated. In Wuhan, in the beginning, it was 15 days from getting sick to hospitalization. They got it down to two days from symptoms to isolation. That meant a lot fewer infected — you choke off this thing’s ability to find susceptibles.

    What’s the difference between isolation and hospitalization?

    With mild symptoms, you go to an isolation center. They were set up in gymnasiums, stadiums — up to 1,000 beds. But if you were severe or critical, you’d go straight to hospitals. Anyone with other illnesses or over age 65 would also go straight to hospitals.

    What were mild, severe and critical? We think of “mild” as like a minor cold.

    No. “Mild” was a positive test, fever, cough — maybe even pneumonia, but not needing oxygen. “Severe” was breathing rate up and oxygen saturation down, so needing oxygen or a ventilator. “Critical” was respiratory failure or multi-organ failure.

    So saying 80 percent of all cases are mild doesn’t mean what we thought.

    I’m Canadian. This is the Wayne Gretzky of viruses — people didn’t think it was big enough or fast enough to have the impact it does.

    Hospitals were also separated?

    Yes. The best hospitals were designated just for Covid, severe and critical. All elective surgeries were postponed. Patients were moved. Other hospitals were designated just for routine care: women still have to give birth, people still suffer trauma and heart attacks.

    They built two new hospitals, and they rebuilt hospitals. If you had a long ward, they’d build a wall at the end with a window, so it was an isolation ward with “dirty” and “clean” zones. You’d go in, gown up, treat patients, and then go out the other way and de-gown. It was like an Ebola treatment unit, but without as much disinfection because it’s not body fluids.

    How good were the severe and critical care?

    China is really good at keeping people alive. Its hospitals looked better than some I see here in Switzerland. We’d ask, “How many ventilators do you have?” They’d say “50.” Wow! We’d say, “How many ECMOs?” They’d say “five.” The team member from the Robert Koch Institute said, “Five? In Germany, you get three, maybe. And just in Berlin.”

    (ECMOs are extracorporeal membrane oxygenation machines, which oxygenate the blood when the lungs fail.)
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/04/health/coronavirus-china-aylward.html
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    Post by Daï Djakman Faré Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:11 pm

    Igor Rudan ekskluzivno za Index: 20 ključnih pitanja i odgovora o koronavirusu


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    i would like to talk here about The Last of Us on HBO... and yeah, yeah i know.. the world is burning but lets just all sit and talk about television. again - what else are we doing with ourselves ? we are not creating any militias. but my god we still have the content. appraising content is the american modus vivendi.. that's why we are here for. to absorb the content and then render some sort of a judgment on content. because there is a buried hope that if enough people have the right opinion about the content - the content will get better which will then flow to our structures and make the world a better place
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    100 kila C4 pod Lamanš i napraviti festung Kale.
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    Post by Cowboy Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:24 pm

    rumbeando wrote:
    Apsolutno niko nije mogao da predvidi, virusi se obično zaustavljaju na državnim granicama, ovaj je potpuno atipičan.

    Kako se zaustavljaju na granicama, nemaju pasoš?

    Mere zaustavljanja virusa na granicama su uvek iste, samo je pitanje kada se krece sa njihovom primenom. Ovde je istovareno na hiljade ljudi iz Kine i Italije (doduse tako je bilo i u drugim zemljama)


    @garnantua jbg win win za svaku drzavu, smanjuje se drasticno potraznja iz penzionog fonda. Inaze SZO bi morala da reaguje na ovo, ne moze 1Kina da potrosi milijarde na suzbijanje zaraze a UK da im se popisha na napore i postane rasadnik virusa.
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    Sarkazaaaaaam detektoooooooor popraviii
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    Post by boomer crook Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:31 pm

    rumbeando wrote:Šef misije SZO u Kini Aylward opisao kineski sistem, još čekamo da vidimo hoće li se ijedna zapadna zemlja organizovati ovako efikasno.

    How did the Chinese reorganize their medical response?

    First, they moved 50 percent of all medical care online so people didn’t come in. Have you ever tried to reach your doctor on Friday night? Instead, you contacted one online. If you needed prescriptions like insulin or heart medications, they could prescribe and deliver it.

    But if you thought you had coronavirus?

    You would be sent to a fever clinic. They would take your temperature, your symptoms, medical history, ask where you’d traveled, your contact with anyone infected. They’d whip you through a CT scan …

    Wait — “whip you through a CT scan”?

    Each machine did maybe 200 a day. Five, 10 minutes a scan. Maybe even partial scans. A typical hospital in the West does one or two an hour. And not X-rays; they could come up normal, but a CT would show the “ground-glass opacities” they were looking for.

    (Dr. Aylward was referring to lung abnormalities seen in coronavirus patients.)

    And then?

    If you were still a suspect case, you’d get swabbed. But a lot would be told, “You’re not Covid.” People would come in with colds, flu, runny noses. That’s not Covid. If you look at the symptoms, 90 percent have fever, 70 percent have dry coughs, 30 percent have malaise, trouble breathing. Runny noses were only 4 percent.

    The swab was for a PCR test, right? How fast could they do that? Until recently, we were sending all of ours to Atlanta.

    They got it down to four hours.

    So people weren’t sent home?

    No, they had to wait. You don’t want someone wandering around spreading virus.

    If they were positive, what happened?

    They’d be isolated. In Wuhan, in the beginning, it was 15 days from getting sick to hospitalization. They got it down to two days from symptoms to isolation. That meant a lot fewer infected — you choke off this thing’s ability to find susceptibles.

    What’s the difference between isolation and hospitalization?

    With mild symptoms, you go to an isolation center. They were set up in gymnasiums, stadiums — up to 1,000 beds. But if you were severe or critical, you’d go straight to hospitals. Anyone with other illnesses or over age 65 would also go straight to hospitals.

    What were mild, severe and critical? We think of “mild” as like a minor cold.

    No. “Mild” was a positive test, fever, cough — maybe even pneumonia, but not needing oxygen. “Severe” was breathing rate up and oxygen saturation down, so needing oxygen or a ventilator. “Critical” was respiratory failure or multi-organ failure.

    So saying 80 percent of all cases are mild doesn’t mean what we thought.

    I’m Canadian. This is the Wayne Gretzky of viruses — people didn’t think it was big enough or fast enough to have the impact it does.

    Hospitals were also separated?

    Yes. The best hospitals were designated just for Covid, severe and critical. All elective surgeries were postponed. Patients were moved. Other hospitals were designated just for routine care: women still have to give birth, people still suffer trauma and heart attacks.

    They built two new hospitals, and they rebuilt hospitals. If you had a long ward, they’d build a wall at the end with a window, so it was an isolation ward with “dirty” and “clean” zones. You’d go in, gown up, treat patients, and then go out the other way and de-gown. It was like an Ebola treatment unit, but without as much disinfection because it’s not body fluids.

    How good were the severe and critical care?

    China is really good at keeping people alive. Its hospitals looked better than some I see here in Switzerland. We’d ask, “How many ventilators do you have?” They’d say “50.” Wow! We’d say, “How many ECMOs?” They’d say “five.” The team member from the Robert Koch Institute said, “Five? In Germany, you get three, maybe. And just in Berlin.”

    (ECMOs are extracorporeal membrane oxygenation machines, which oxygenate the blood when the lungs fail.)
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/04/health/coronavirus-china-aylward.html

    to je onaj intervju iz VOX-a


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    Post by Cowboy Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:35 pm

    Papa Lazarou wrote:Sarkazaaaaaam detektoooooooor popraviii

    ne poznajem rumberandoa, a svakakvih sam se gluposti nacitao u ovih par nedelja.

    Kod sarkazma je fora da znas coveka Virus - Page 18 2304934895 jer u suprotnom i Vucic moze komplet da se shvati sarkasticno. I ovaj Trampavi englez je pre sarkastican nego ozbiljan, jer ako je bio ozbiljan kada je rekao da virus treba pustiti da protrci kroz naciju onda jebi ga


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    Whip you through a CT scan.

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