Kapitalizam 101

Vilmos Tehenészfiú wrote:da ukidaju kapitalizam pričajući komunističke priče iz XIX veka.

ako su već vanzemaljci, daj da nam daju ideju za nešto bolje, za ovo znamo da neće da radi.

što me navodi na jednu misao koju sam podelio jednom prilikom sa paćetom, pošto on mlogo vole naučnu fantastiku:

kako to da ni u jednom romanu koji opisuje budućnost nema komunizma?

moj odgovor je bio: zato što ni najveća mašta ne može da zamisli sistem u kome to radi.

sad vidim da ste se raspisali na Duncu, nije on jedini koji troši tu literaturu, pa isto pitanje vazi za sve vas:

ako je komunizam budućnost, kako se ne nadje niko da ga udene u SF roman?

Almost 15% of working adults now get paid by platform such as Deliveroo, Uber and Amazon’s delivery arm Flex, compared with about 6% in 2016 and just under 12% in 2019, according to research for the TUC union carried out by the University of Hertfordshire and the consultancy BritainThinks.

Erős Pista wrote:Vilmoše, da li često viđaš Marksa i Engelsa? Jel ti se obraćaju? Jesu li oni sada sa tobom u sobi?

Talason wrote:

Vilmos Tehenészfiú wrote:što me navodi na jednu misao koju sam podelio jednom prilikom sa paćetom, pošto on mlogo vole naučnu fantastiku:

kako to da ni u jednom romanu koji opisuje budućnost nema komunizma?

moj odgovor je bio: zato što ni najveća mašta ne može da zamisli sistem u kome to radi.

pored toga, mislim da je pače potpuno pogrešan sagovornik za SF, shvata ga otprilike kao i jezik, tako da si našao crkvu 'de ćeš Bogu da se moliš

što se tiče anarhije i komunizma, ima ih u SF-u kod Ursule, F. Pola, Aldisa, Londona, Heinleina, Robinsona itd, ali ima i apsolutno svih ostalih postojećih i nepostojećih političkih modela ili kako se već to zove zbirno

Vilmos Tehenészfiú wrote:

Erős Pista wrote:Vilmoše, da li često viđaš Marksa i Engelsa? Jel ti se obraćaju? Jesu li oni sada sa tobom u sobi?

Jedan od njih me gleda sa korica knjige Marx za početnike.

Научнофантастични писци обећали су нам летеће аутомобиле. Будућност је већ стигла, али на Старом новосадском путу, и у току је увиђај.

Александар Чотрић, вероватно

Зашто у СФ књигама нема комунизма? Има - у Капиталу.

Бобан Милетић Бапси, вероватно

Јанош Винету wrote:Како немамо комунизам у научној фантастици?
Имамо "Ми" Замјатина, имамо "Животињску Фарму", имамо "1984", то је све комунизам у будућности.

Songs of Cosmos Prologue is an intro-book into Songs of Cosmos series, a Sci-Fi/political novel that deals with the questions that have always been relevant to humankind. Conserve or destroy the order? What is just and on what scale? Who has the authority to set everything ablaze? Where are all the Gods and how they come into existence? Is there any such thing as supreme authority? Will we ever change and do we have the right or liability to always hope to do better than how we do today?

The story follows young Count, a System Master from the outer reaches of what will be the known Cosmos at his time. He takes over his domain, Svarog system, with some reluctance, after the tragic death of his brother on the throne world Vodan. However, he has some ideas about the order that do not correspond with the official policies, so he has to mask all his intentions and survive against the odds. To do that, he combines his civil authority as a System Master with his military authority, using his birthright to push through military ranks quickly, and his military rank to deal with his enemies, which he does ruthlessly with the help of the trusted friend and large organization they created.

This is a story that brings him to the crossroads and pushes him over the edge. Before, he was a young but not so powerful noble from the provincial system, a nobody with an old and dignified name in the eyes of central authorities. He does not only enhance his power, but gains the most dangerous ally of all - new ideology, one he is willing to fight for as he considers it beneficial for both himself and his people. In a galaxy dangerously divided among the descendants of the Wends and the Goths, that means he will either have to forfeit his life at some point and see everything he created burn to ashes, or he will push through to the very end. On top of all, the Empire faces new, mortal threat by the forgotten ones...

Vilmos Tehenészfiú wrote:

Јанош Винету wrote:Како немамо комунизам у научној фантастици?
Имамо "Ми" Замјатина, имамо "Животињску Фарму", имамо "1984", то је све комунизам у будућности.

Ne to bre. Lep komunizam, u kome svi imaju koliko pozele, rade koliko im se radi, a svaki dan je lep ko suncani vikend.

Problem sa lepim komunizmom je sto za to trebaju neograniceni resursi. Dinamicni duo Marks/Engels nije o tome razmisljao a i zasto bi? U njihovo vreme nisu postojali avioni kamioni a samim tim ni problem transporta, zagadjenja zivotne sredine, efekta staklene baste, itd. Ja da sam pisac SF (a i da sam marksista, to je isto) jab to resio sa prijemnikom i predajnikom, uparenim, koji coveka na jednom kraju (predajnik) rastavljaju na atome, a na drugom ga ponovo sastave. Svaka zgrada ima taj par i vozi.... problem resen. Ne moras da se patis po avionima, vozovima i autima, za sve sto nije na peskomet koristis to da bi odsao od tacke A do tacke B.