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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:38 am

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    Merkel izgleda pokusava da izboksuje produzenje samo do 30 juna.
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    Post by Erős Pista Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:01 am

    Čitam sad kako su torijevci najurili Skrutona sa čela neke urbanističke komisije, jer se opet nešto nalupetavao (nema antisemitizma u Mađarkoj, ali ima, hehe, jevrejske zavere), pa rekoh da pogledam taj njegov intervju. Posle godina truda, konačno je pošlo za rukom da se pretvori u tipičnog rasističkog dedu. Međutim, opet je rekao par zanimljivih stvari, pre svega oko Bregzita i Kamerona.






    It  was in Paris in May 1968, as French workers and students revolted, that Roger Scruton became a conservative. “I was woken up then, I wasn’t really political until that moment,” the author and philosopher recalled when we met recently at his flat in Albany, the rarefied apartment complex opposite Fortnum & Mason in Piccadilly, London. “I thought, here is the most beautiful city in the world, with its wonderful culture, all the things that I’ve just learned to appreciate, and these wretched, spoiled brats are trying to pull it all down… I had an old-fashioned English Puritanical revolt against it.”
    Since then, Scruton, now 75, has become something of a one-man think tank, writing more than 50 books on politics, philosophy, religion and culture; founding and editing The Salisbury Review (from 1982 to 2001); hosting a ten-day summer school on his Wiltshire farm (with the unintentionally comical name “Scrutopia”); and, most recently, becoming head of the government’s Building Better, Building Beautiful commission in November 2018. His sacking was unsuccessfully demanded by Labour MPs and others on account of his past remarks on Hungarian Jews (part of a “Soros empire”), Islamophobia (a “propaganda word”) and homosexuality (“not normal”).
    “It’s upsetting because it’s meant to undermine your authority,” Scruton, who was knighted in 2016, said as he reflected on the affair. “And authority is the only thing I have, authority that comes from hard work and thinking.
    “What surprised me was the kind of people who repeated this. You expect people who spend their lives on Twitter to have this store of malice but when it comes up in parliament, as it did, I was astonished.”
    Scruton is unrepentant, however, about the remarks that earned him such opprobrium. “Anybody who doesn’t think that there’s a Soros empire in Hungary has not observed the facts,” he said, heedless of the anti-Semitic portrayal of the philanthropist George Soros as a Jewish puppet-master.
    It was “nonsense”, Scruton continued, to accuse the Hungarian prime minister Viktor Orbán of anti-Semitism (the pair have been friends since meeting in Budapest in 1987). The same applied, he insisted, to charges of Islamophobia. “The Hungarians were extremely alarmed by the sudden invasion of huge tribes of Muslims from the Middle East.” Islamophobia was, he repeated, a propaganda word “invented by the Muslim Brotherhood in order to stop discussion of a major issue”.
    Perhaps most remarkably, he commented of the rise of China: “They’re creating robots out of their own people… each Chinese person is a kind of replica of the next one and that is a very frightening thing.”

    Scruton has long prided himself on his contempt for utopian schemes to remake the world and society. How does he respond to the charge that Brexit (which he favours) is one such project? “What I really think is that David Cameron should not have given us the chance of a referendum if he did not intend to go through with the result. I think that was a major constitutional betrayal and I suspect that most people would feel that.”
    He elaborated: “Cameron’s resignation really was the death knell of the Conservative Party as we knew it because that’s something a proper Conservative politician cannot do: renounce leadership at the moment when it’s needed.”
    Scruton was little more favourable towards the prime minister whose government appointed him. “I can’t say that Theresa May would have been my choice. She’s obviously an honest, respectable, somewhat old-fashioned, wooden person… she’s doing her best. But it’s not what the country needs, it does need strong leadership.” Someone prepared to pursue a no-deal Brexit? “Yes.”
    Evelyn Waugh once lamented that the Conservative Party had “never put the clock back a single second”. Does Scruton agree? “I think that’s his romanticism, of course it’s true. But it’s not entirely true. What the word conservative means is not putting things back but conserving them. There are things that are threatened and you love them, so you want to keep them.”
    Has he been surprised by the resurgence of socialist politicians such as Jeremy Corbyn? (Who Scruton once remarked reminded him of his father.) “In the end I’m not really surprised because the decline of education means that people don’t understand any more what it [socialism] was, they haven’t got the historical narrative that will tell you exactly why communism leads to the gulag.”
    But Scruton, who retains a conservative scepticism of the free market, confessed that he was “tempted by the idea of renationalising the railways – they seem to run quite well in places that they’re nationalised”.
    He is repulsed by some of the consequences of globalisation. “It is outrageous that Amazon doesn’t pay any tax in this country, or hardly any at all, but it operates from Luxembourg, which is a tinpot little place, which seems to be getting more and more power over us. A lot more could have been done to discipline international business.”

    Does he feel any optimism about the future? “I’ve never been an optimist, but that’s fine because pessimists have the possibility of being agreeably surprised… What is known as optimism is really a collection of illusions. One must recognise what all religious people know, which is that human beings are imperfect and fallen and there’s no way in which they alone can surmount the problems which they create.”
    https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2019/04/roger-scruton-cameron-s-resignation-was-death-knell-conservative-party


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:31 am

    Kakav god da je (a generalno je uzasan) on je 1 pojam za ove nadri youtube mislioce tipa Jordan Petrovic. Ako nista drugo bar zna o cemu prica. Druga je stvar sta prica UK - Politika i društvo  - Page 26 1399639816
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    Post by Erős Pista Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:37 am

    +1


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:33 pm

    31. oktobar


    Znaci Brexit emergency EUCO 29. oktobar

    "Halloween Brexit"  UK - Politika i društvo  - Page 26 1861198401

    As the great and good gather in Brussels to consider all-consuming timeless oblivion, others have been getting excited across town about an actual black hole. 

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    Post by Erős Pista Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:56 pm

    Makronu dokurcilo.

    Emmanuel Macron will not be holding a press conference tonight, Catherine Nicholson from France24 reports.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:07 pm

    Ma bre, skoro niko ga nije podrzao, na ciste misice (Francuske) je izgurao da ne bude 31. decembar. 

    Naravno, u UK se to odmah iskoristili da prionu na posao i ponovo vratili parlamentarni raspust za uskrsnje praznike.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:11 pm

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    Post by Zuper Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:46 pm

    Dakle, sta se moze nauciti:
    1) Ne postoji EU vec Nemacka. Mej je otisla u Berlin i tamo se dogovorila a Brisel je tek usputna stanica.
    2) Nemacka puno zavisi od izvoza u UK i nije spremna da pravi radikalne zahvate.

    Ako nista, Faraz se biti u Strazburu.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:19 am

    Bice Faraz, ali ce se najvise svadjati, to kratko vreme (najverovatnije) sa drugim MEPs iz svoje zemlje. 

    Mej je otisla u Berlin, ali sta god da se dogovorila - nije to bilo. Mada bolje da jeste. 

    Najbolje bi im bilo da odrze izbore odmah, ali nece to uraditi.
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    Post by Erős Pista Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:44 am

    Ovi izgleda nikad neće dizađu...


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    Post by Erős Pista Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:11 am

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    Post by Mr.Pink Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:09 pm

    Pamela Anderson slams UK over Julian Assange arrest: 'You are America's b****'


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    Post by Mr.Pink Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:12 pm

    ja i ovo asanzovo hapsenje citam kroz brexit


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:34 pm

    The Guardian can reveal:


    • Each additional week as a member state will now eat into the transition period in which the UK wants to negotiate the future economic relationship, and avoid having to trigger the Irish backstop to avoid a hard border on the island of Ireland. The 31 December 2020 end date of the transition period, extendable by up to two years, will not be “revised”, an official said.


    • Nineteen leaders backed a long extension to 31 December or 31 March, seven were flexible either way – and France stood alone demanding a short extension, potentially ending 22 May before being talked round.


    • The prime minister has agreed she will not attend a 9 May leaders’ summit in the Romanian city of Sibiu on the future of Europe.


    • May told leaders that the last time there was real cross-party cooperation in the UK was during the second world war, and that while customs arrangements were being discussed with Jeremy Corbyn most of the talks with Labour were about internally locking in any future government into pursuing a softer Brexit.


    • The EU’s lawyers warned France that its proposal to throw the UK out if it failed to live up to a promise of “sincere cooperation” as a member state would be illegal.


    • Belgium held up the seven-hour discussion by asking for tougher language on the UK’s responsibilities as a member state during the extra time in the EU but was bought off with two extra words to the summit communique.


    • May haggled in the early hours of the morning over the June review point included in the summit communique to reflect that it was not a health check on the UK’s record as a member state but a stock check on progress in the Brexit process. “There was a requirement from the UK to be a little more precise so to avoid any confusion,” an EU official said. “That’s why we ended up with the word progress [in paragraph nine of the text].”



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    Post by Ferenc Puskás Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:09 am

    TV fans delighted as Brexit renewed for another season
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    Fans of Britain’s long-running comedy-drama Brexit are today overjoyed after learning that another season of the popular show has been commissioned.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:58 am

    otto katz wrote:TV fans delighted as Brexit renewed for another season
    UK - Politika i društvo  - Page 26 Couple10
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:03 am

    Inače, ovo je prava ideologija iza Brexita. Ovo je snimljeno pre Brexita. Tu ima cela priča

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    Post by Anduril Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:07 am

    Ovo je vrhunska propaganda - ovaj lik koji je napravio dokumentarac je inace bivsi komunista a sada fura drugi ekstrem.
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    Post by Ferenc Puskás Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:15 am

    Jeste gledali neko Brexit s Cumberbatchom? Majkutibožju stvori se cijela mala popularna kultura.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:14 am

    Anduril wrote:Ovo je vrhunska propaganda - ovaj lik koji je napravio dokumentarac je inace bivsi komunista a sada fura drugi ekstrem.

    vrlo solidna propaganda. kao i svaka uspesna propaganda nosi sa sobom i lep deo istine, ali totalno masi poentu, no to nije bitno. 

    ja sve vise verujem da ovi hard-core brexiteri u stvari zaista ne zele da se desi brexit. prvo, gube pricu. drugo, sta ako se ispostavi da je promasaj? 

    Ali naravno - Svajcarska UK - Politika i društvo  - Page 26 1399639816 Kako oni mogu a mi ne mozemo! 

    For starters:

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:16 am

    otto katz wrote:Jeste gledali neko Brexit s Cumberbatchom? Majkutibožju stvori se cijela mala popularna kultura.

    Kako nece. Nesto sto ce sve zajedno trajati desetak godina mora imati takav efekat. Tj, ako se naprasno ne opamete.
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