UK - Politika i društvo
- Posts : 82754
Join date : 2012-06-10
- Post n°176
Re: UK - Politika i društvo
_____
"Oni kroz mene gledaju u vas! Oni kroz njega gledaju u vas! Oni kroz vas gledaju u mene... i u sve nas."
Dragoslav Bokan, Novi putevi oftalmologije
- Posts : 52531
Join date : 2017-11-16
- Post n°177
Re: UK - Politika i društvo
Kapiram da sada već najviše zato to ne radi.
Mislim, zamisli da to obeća i onda deal padne za 2 glasa. Autoritet nula, rešenje nula.
Među torijevcima koji glasaju protiv njenog dila ima desetak rimejnera. A ko zna koliko još može da ih se pojavi "iz drveća" ako znaju da ne samo da prolazi deal, nego da posle toga dobijaju proper brexitera za premijera
- Posts : 52531
Join date : 2017-11-16
- Post n°178
Re: UK - Politika i društvo
Mislim...
Tory minister goes on record on revocation. The first Tory member of the government to do so.. https://t.co/pFeF1pGXmZ
— Sam Coates Times (@SamCoatesTimes) 24 March 2019
- Posts : 82754
Join date : 2012-06-10
- Post n°179
Re: UK - Politika i društvo
KinderLad wrote:Ali ni tad nije sigurno da će proći. Verovatno bi prošao, ali daleko od 100%.
Kapiram da sada već najviše zato to ne radi.
Mislim, zamisli da to obeća i onda deal padne za 2 glasa. Autoritet nula, rešenje nula.
Među torijevcima koji glasaju protiv njenog dila ima desetak rimejnera. A ko zna koliko još može da ih se pojavi "iz drveća" ako znaju da ne samo da prolazi deal, nego da posle toga dobijaju proper brexitera za premijera
Pa da. Prihvati loš dil, da bi posle dobio još gori užas u vidu BoJoa ili nekog sličnog. Uopšte ne razumem koja je ovo taktika.
_____
"Oni kroz mene gledaju u vas! Oni kroz njega gledaju u vas! Oni kroz vas gledaju u mene... i u sve nas."
Dragoslav Bokan, Novi putevi oftalmologije
- Posts : 13817
Join date : 2016-02-01
- Post n°181
Re: UK - Politika i društvo
Tereza Mej izgleda ide taktikom: ako moj dil ne prolazi, neće vala nijedan pošto nije u skladu s mojim izbornim programom (koji sam sama napisala u pola kampanje i na kojem nisam dobila većinu već je pravim s DUP-om), već ćemo na izbore. U tom smislu najavljeno je da će pokušati da aktivno spreči svoje poslanike da podrže Letvinov amandman koji predviđa da se glasa o svim mogućim ishodima.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6848113/We-call-election-MPs-force-soft-Brexit-claim-ministers.htmlThe Government today discussed forcing a General Election if MPs try to seize control of Brexit and make it softer than Theresa May's deal.
Ministers including Brexit Secretary Stephen Barclay are said to have raised the prospect at Cabinet this morning ahead of a Parliamentary votes this evening to wrestle control of the withdrawal process.
The Commons will tonight vote on a series of amendments to a Government motion that would pave the way to so-called indicative votes taking place on Wednesday.
These would allow MPs to show what sort of Brexit they wish to push through if a majority cannot be found for Mrs May's twice-defeated deal.
The talk of forcing a General Election come despite an Opinium poll from two months ago finding that only 12 per cent of Britons would welcome another one, just two years after the last resulted in a hung Parliament.
Theresa May suggests she won't pursue single market or customs union even if MPs vote for it: 'No-one would want to support an option which contradicted the manifesto on which they stood'
— Jason Groves (@JasonGroves1) March 25, 2019
Theresa May is either deluded or lying about wanting to reach an agreement. She says she wants to reach consensus but only if it doesn't conflict with the Tory manifesto! How is this in any way showing willingness to compromise? She is totally unfit for her office. #Brexit
— Simon Harding (@goalposthead1) March 25, 2019
Theresa May has emphasised twice now that the Government will whip against the indicative vote amendment tonight, ie will actively seek to block MPs from conducting indicative votes on the way forward for Brexit. Staggering abdication of responsibility.
— Edwin Hayward (@uk_domain_names) March 25, 2019
Theresa May suggests her party’s manifesto should guide Brexit not Majority in House. Ken Clarke reminds her that the “manifesto appeared halfway through the election campaign, it was not discussed in cabinet and was not circulated to candidates already fighting their campaigns” pic.twitter.com/CLEd6A90uu
— Peter Stefanovic (@PeterStefanovi2) March 25, 2019
Letvinov amandman će izgleda biti usvojen, tvrdi Huff Post.
Following an emergency cabinet meeting, a senior government source said MPs led by Tory Sir Oliver Letwin “have the numbers” to pass their amendment, paving the way for indicative votes on Wednesday.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/may-resigned-to-losing-control-of-commons-for-votes-on-brexit-alternatives_uk_5c98e20de4b01ebeef12409b
Last edited by rumbeando on Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:14 pm; edited 1 time in total
- Posts : 52531
Join date : 2017-11-16
- Post n°182
Re: UK - Politika i društvo
već ćemo na izbore
to je i inace najizglednija opcija sada, a pogotovu ako prodje Letwinov amandman
- Posts : 52531
Join date : 2017-11-16
- Post n°183
Re: UK - Politika i društvo
A delegation of eight Remain ministers just emerged from Theresa May’s Commons office and were reassured by what they heard
Pending a confirmation by Stephen Barclay tonight that Govt will push indicative votes if Letwin fails, they are not minded to resign
- Posts : 52531
Join date : 2017-11-16
- Post n°184
Re: UK - Politika i društvo
I’m sorry, is this for real? Have the leaders of the hard Brexiteers just called themselves the same name as the leaders of the Ku Klux Klan? https://t.co/ltMKsyCnwH
— George Osborne (@George_Osborne) 25 March 2019
- Posts : 52531
Join date : 2017-11-16
- Post n°185
Re: UK - Politika i društvo
saće haos
- Posts : 41623
Join date : 2012-02-12
Location : wife privilege
- Post n°186
Re: UK - Politika i društvo
_____
cousin for roasting the rakija
И кажем себи у сну, еј бре коњу па ти ни немаш озвучење, имаш оне две кутијице око монитора, видећеш кад се пробудиш...
- Posts : 3849
Join date : 2014-11-12
- Post n°187
Re: UK - Politika i društvo
_____
Warning: may contain irony.
- Posts : 52531
Join date : 2017-11-16
- Post n°189
Re: UK - Politika i društvo
Možda proba sutra da progura konačno svoj deal preteći Brexiterima da mogu da dobiju ko zna šta ili da uopšte ne bude Brexita. Mada ne verujem, ali ko zna...
- Posts : 13817
Join date : 2016-02-01
- Post n°190
Re: UK - Politika i društvo
https://twitter.com/326Pols
- Guest
- Post n°191
Re: UK - Politika i društvo
Jacob Rees-Mogg tells ConHome:
— Alex Wickham (@alexwickham) March 26, 2019
"Is this deal worse than not leaving? No, definitely not. If we take this deal we are legally out of the EU… Being legally out is of great importance. It restores our independence."
"Dobar je i Terezin dogovor"
- Posts : 13817
Join date : 2016-02-01
- Post n°192
Re: UK - Politika i društvo
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu/may-to-meet-her-lawmakers-as-resignation-talk-swirls-idUKKCN1R70VH?rpc=401&British Prime Minister Theresa May will address her Conservative lawmakers on Wednesday, possibly to announce a resignation date in a last throw of the dice to win support for her twice-rejected Brexit deal in parliament.
May was due to speak to the party’s so-called 1922 Committee at 1700 GMT on Wednesday, a lawmaker from her Conservative Party said, speaking on condition of anonymity, adding it was “certainly a possibility” she could set her date of departure.
The political editor of The Sun newspaper said May was expected to set a date for her resignation at the meeting.
- Posts : 41623
Join date : 2012-02-12
Location : wife privilege
- Post n°193
Re: UK - Politika i društvo
William Murderface wrote:Padni na mač, Tereza, i slavićemo te slavom velikom.
Theresa may or may not do it...
_____
cousin for roasting the rakija
И кажем себи у сну, еј бре коњу па ти ни немаш озвучење, имаш оне две кутијице око монитора, видећеш кад се пробудиш...
- Posts : 13817
Join date : 2016-02-01
- Post n°194
Re: UK - Politika i društvo
“I am still resolved” to voting against the PM’s Brexit deal, @SuellaBraverman confirms.
— Aubrey Allegretti (@breeallegretti) March 26, 2019
10 podržavalaca manjinske vlade iz DUP-a i dalje nisu impresionirani.
Sky News understands that the DUP now consider a long extension to #Brexit to be preferable to the prime minister's deal. @tamcohen has the latest on this breaking story.
— Sky News Politics (@SkyNewsPolitics) March 26, 2019
More here: https://t.co/hP2ziWu5zq pic.twitter.com/5bEFYlLkKa
DUP MP Jim Shannon said it was beginning to look like the Eurosceptic ERG group, led by Mr Rees-Mogg, were more focused on Brexit than the Union.
...
Speaking on BBC Radio 4's Today programme on Tuesday morning Mr Shannon said it appeared that some ERG members had changed their stance.
...
"They've not all changed their opinion, but they maybe see Brexit as a greater issue than the Union.
"We see the Union as the big issue, as the priority and that's what we're focused upon."
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk/jacob-reesmogg-may-back-mays-brexit-deal-but-dup-now-preparing-for-long-extension-37952186.html
- Posts : 52531
Join date : 2017-11-16
- Post n°195
Re: UK - Politika i društvo
JRM
I apologise for changing my mind. Theresa May’s deal is a bad one, it does not deliver on the promises made in the Tory Party manifesto and its negotiation was a failure of statesmanship.
A £39 billion bill for nothing, a minimum of 21 months of vassalage, the continued involvement of the European Court and, worst of all, a backstop with no end date.
Yet, I am now willing to support it if the Democratic Unionist Party does, and by doing so will be accused of infirmity of purpose by some and treachery by others.
- Posts : 7775
Join date : 2017-03-14
- Post n°196
Re: UK - Politika i društvo
- Posts : 52531
Join date : 2017-11-16
- Post n°197
Re: UK - Politika i društvo
- Posts : 11141
Join date : 2014-10-28
Age : 45
- Post n°199
Re: UK - Politika i društvo
_____
radikalni patrijarhalni feminista
smrk kod dijane hrk
- Posts : 13817
Join date : 2016-02-01
- Post n°200
Re: UK - Politika i društvo
New - Labour will whip to support
— Jessica Elgot (@jessicaelgot) March 27, 2019
F&J - Snell/Clarke on Customs Union
K - Labour’s Brexit plan
M - Beckett on second referendum
They are also “encouraging support”
D - Common Market 2.0
Not whipped because not technically party policy but implication is Corbyn will support