Macron revised down chances of May winning vote to just 5% after hearing her at summitAccording to Reuters, Emmanuel Macron, the French president, told fellow EU leaders during the EU27 discussion (ie, after Theresa May had left the room) that he thought May had only a 10% chance of winning the vote next week before he arrived at the summit. After hearing her address the meeting, he was revising that down to 5%, he said.
Donald Tusk, the European council president, said Macron was being “very optimistic”, Reuters says.
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I’m being briefed by a senior source that when the PM stood in front of the 27 EU leaders at summit yesterday “it was almost as if she wanted them to press the button (of a no deal #Brexit) ..
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Uostalom uvek moze da da ostavku. Ali ne, radije ce se slupati u no deal i posle samo moze da kaze "mislim da sam obavila zadatak...".
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Source says No10 in “panic mode”. Meaningful vote would still be held, but expectation is it will fail. Indicative votes would follow. Kwasi Kwarteng hinted this morning any such votes would be ‘free votes’ - not whipped.
— Kate McCann (@KateEMcCann) March 22, 2019
V worried PM still wants her deal or no deal & will run down clock again til we end up with No Deal chaos on 12 April. We’ve tabled further cross party amendment; if PMs Deal isn’t passed, Govt must set out plan to prevent No Deal on 12 April, taking account of indicative votes pic.twitter.com/8d1mMdcfGZ
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deal + customs + single market
Ovo ima vecinu. Sto posto. Pitanje je samo kad ce doci na dnevni red. Verovatno i deal+CU. Pitanje je samo koja opcija ima vecu. U stvari mislim da su to dve jedine opcije koje imaju vecinu.
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MPs could stage a series of ‘knock-out’ votes on Brexit under a radical new plan to stop the UK from crashing out of the EU without a deal, HuffPost UK can reveal.
After the historic defeat of Theresa May’s proposals on Tuesday, cross-party moves are underway to effectively force the House of Commons to find a majority for an alternative way forward.
Under a new amendment drafted by Welsh party Plaid Cymru, MPs would be asked to list their preference for a range of options including a Norway-style Brexit, a second referendum and remaining in the EU.
In a dramatic bid to break the parliamentary logjam, the traditional Commons voting system would be replaced by a series of ‘run-offs’ to find the one solution which commands most support.
The least popular option would be eliminated and a fresh vote held on those remaining, until a single solution is arrived at.
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Plan for MPs to get votes on seven Brexit options if Theresa May's deal defeated again
Downing St considers giving the House of Commons a choice between various Brexit alternatives amid fears the PM's deal won't pass.
By Kate McCann, political correspondent, and Rob Powell, political reporter
Friday 22 March 2019 17:01, UK
Number 10 is understood to be considering allowing parliament to vote on seven alternative options next week amid growing fears that Theresa May will not get her Brexit plan through the House of Commons.
A senior minister in the government told Sky News that plans are being drawn up to give MPs a choice between revoking Article 50, a second referendum, the prime minister's deal, her deal plus a customs union, the deal plus a customs union and single market access, a standard free-trade agreement, or a no-deal Brexit.
Another source confirmed to Sky News that senior figures within government had been speaking openly about getting behind the idea.
The source said that it was being considered as a "way to find a solution", given that it now looks likely that Mrs May's Brexit deal will be defeated for a third time next week.
The minister said Number 10 is in "panic mode" and fears Mrs May's deal will not win enough support to pass the Commons.
They are understood to be weighing up the series of indicative votes in the knowledge that, if they do not allow MPs the chance to explore alternatives, parliament could force the government to allow such votes anyway by taking control of the Brexit process.
The votes would not replace a so-called "meaningful vote" on the prime minister's deal, which has to be held next week in order to meet the terms of the extension offered to the UK by the EU.
David Lidington, Mrs May's de facto deputy, told MPs last week that they would have further chances to express their views on Brexit in the coming weeks.
After leaving talks with Mr Lidington at the Cabinet Office on Friday, Liberal Democrat leader Sir Vince Cable said they'd had "a very good business-like discussion".
He added: "We're considering how parliament can consider a very wide range of options - including revocation, including a people's vote.
"The fact we're trying to find a way through this is encouraging."
Earlier, Brexit minister Kwasi Kwarteng suggested Conservative MPs would not be ordered to vote for any particular Brexit option if indicative votes were held.
He told MPs: "If the House is being asked to decide a way forward, it would be surprising if those votes were not free votes."
This sparked anger from Tory Brexiteers with Mark Francois, the vice-chairman of the European Research Group (ERG) of Conservative eurosceptics, telling Sky News: "If the government is going to allow unwhipped votes on indicative votes, if there is no government position on any of those issues about the future of our country, then there isn't really a government."
Former Brexit minister Steve Baker, a fellow member of the ERG, posted on Twitter: "National humiliation is imminent through these 'indicative votes'.
"The wrong Conservatives have the levers of power."
Another Tory Brexiteer, Marcus Fysh, branded the proposal "the most ludicrous, childish and unrealistic idea I have ever seen", adding: "Utterly unfit."
Former Tory minister Nick Boles, who wants the UK to pursue a Norway-style relationship with the EU, called for MPs to be put in charge of defining the different options put to indicative votes.
European Council President Donald Tusk
Labour has tabled an amendment calling on the government to provide enough time next week for MPs to be given votes on Brexit alternatives.
Jeremy Corbyn said: "Following a series of meetings with MPs from all parties, EU leaders, businesses and trade unions, I am convinced that a sensible alternative deal can be agreed by Parliament, be negotiated with the EU and bring the public together, whether they voted leave or remain.
"It's time for Parliament to take control of the Brexit process from this failed prime minister, and end the chaos and confusion created by the Government's divisions and incompetence."
In a sign of the task on Mrs May's hands to win over opponents of her deal, the Democratic Unionist Party said the PM "putting the blame on others cannot disguise the responsibility her government bears for the current debacle".
The Northern Irish party, whose support is key to a deal getting through Parliament, accused the government of being "far too willing to capitulate" to the EU.
Deputy leader Nigel Dodds said: "The prime minister missed an opportunity at the EU Council to put forward proposals which could have improved the prospects of an acceptable Withdrawal Agreement and help unite the country.
"That failure is all the more disappointing and inexcusable given the clear divisions and arguments which became evident amongst EU member states when faced with outcomes they don't like."
https://news.sky.com/story/plan-for-mps-to-get-votes-on-seven-brexit-options-if-theresa-mays-deal-defeated-again-11672593
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Normalno. Da je bilo pameti, to bi uradila odmah posle prvog poraza.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/22/may-tells-johnson-i-wont-step-aside-to-solve-brexit-crisisTheresa May told Boris Johnson she had no intention of stepping aside to help resolve the Brexit impasse at a high-stakes meeting earlier this week with the man seen as the favourite to replace her.
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According to one source, May even indicated she would, if necessary, be prepared to lead the Conservative party and fight a general election if one took place before 2022 – the date she has given for when she is prepared to stand down.
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Quincy Endicott wrote:Koliko sam ja razumeo njihov statut, oni ne mogu da je skinu sa čela partije neko određeno vreme?
Ali mogu da obore vladu, a da pri tom ne raspuste parlament. E sad, drugo je pitanje ko bi posle bio premijer.
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William Murderface wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/22/secret-cabinet-office-document-reveals-chaotic-planning-for-no-deal-brexit
To plaše laburisticke brexitere? Vise je nemoguce reci sta se iz kog razloga desava i leakuje
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Do you want a blowjob?
— Dai Lama (@WelshDalaiLama) March 20, 2019
Yes.
It's from a piranha.
Then no.
Can't change your mind now. Blowjob means blowjob.
This is where we are with Brexit now. About to dunk our cocks into the razor-toothed mouth of peril.
Brexit is a blowjob from a piranha.
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