UK - Politika i društvo
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Ma koga boli kurac. Streljati i kraj.
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Dragoslav Bokan, Novi putevi oftalmologije
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A evo i šta se dešava kod laburista.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/23/corbyns-cabinet-set-for-another-huge-rift-michael-savage-toby-helm
Corbyn’s cabinet set for another huge rift over Brexit
Commons votes will force Labour to decide between a soft Brexit or second referendum
Michael Savage and Toby Helm
Sat 23 Mar 2019 19.00 GMT
Jeremy Corbyn’s shadow cabinet is set to clash again over Brexit this week, with supporters of a second referendum concerned that Labour’s leadership will opt to facilitate a soft Brexit.
With senior Labour figures openly calling for another public vote at the anti-Brexit march in London yesterday, other influential MPs believe Corbyn’s inner circle is actually warming to a Norway-style Brexit that would see Britain leave the EU, but remain closely aligned to it.
Tensions between Labour and its pro-Remain activists are already high after the party released a tweet on Friday evening asking if supporters had any “big weekend plans” and called on them to go out leafleting for May’s local elections.
The party’s official position is to explore all possibilities to resolve the Brexit impasse, including a public vote if other avenues prove impossible. The position has allowed Labour to keep its options open amid widespread support for a second referendum among party members. However, a plan to hold a series of indicative Commons votes this week on possible Brexit options is set to force Labour to decide whether it can allow its MPs to back a soft Brexit.
A previous Commons vote over a Norway-style soft Brexit last year resulted in a huge row within Labour. Jeremy Corbyn told his MPs to abstain, but 75 MPs voted for the idea, while 15 voted against. Six quit their Labour roles as a result of the vote.
But several Labour sources believed the party leadership was now warming to a Norway-style Brexit, dubbed “Common Market 2.0”, which would see Britain remain inside a customs union with the EU and part of its single market. Customs union membership would stop Britain signing its own trade deals, while single market membership would force Britain to adhere to the EU’s free movement rules on immigration.
Corbyn had seemed to be edging to the idea of backing a “confirmatory referendum”, which would see May’s deal put to the people. That idea has been drawn up by Labour backbenchers Peter Kyle and Phil Wilson, and will be voted on when May puts her Brexit deal to a third vote in the Commons, expected this week.
That option is still the preference of some in Corbyn’s team, said to include shadow Brexit secretary Keir Starmer. Tom Watson, the party’s deputy leader, appeared at yesterday’s march for a second vote and said he would back May’s deal if she put it to a public vote, with an option to Remain. “When the deal fails this week we are going to face the prospect of a huge delay to the process – I don’t think the people that voted Leave want that and I don’t think people who voted Remain want that,” he said. “So I have an explicit message for Theresa May.
“I will support your deal going through parliament or a revised deal you can agree with my party. I will help you get it over the line to prevent a disastrous no deal exit. But I can only vote for a deal if you let the people have a vote on it too.”
The rally was also addressed by London mayor Sadiq Khan, who said it was “time to withdraw article 50”. Speaking from the stage in Parliament Square, he said he was “a proud European”.
“No matter how you voted in the referendum, no matter what political party you support, we can all agree that Brexit has been a complete and utter mess,” he said. “With days to go we’re in danger of falling off the cliff, which will have catastrophic consequences... it’s time to give us, the British people, a final say on Brexit.”
Writing in the Observer today, shadow business secretary Rebecca Long-Bailey said parliament should now “consider the other options – including our alternative plan, the Common Market 2.0 proposal, a customs union, and a public vote”.
“Labour’s starting point is our alternative plan based around a new customs union and a close alignment to the single market. It abides by the result of the referendum without wrecking our economy. And it will work for the whole country, not just those at the top,” she said.
“Unlike the prime minister, Labour is willing to be flexible to find a way through. But we will not vote for Theresa May’s terrible deal, and we’ll never countenance a disastrous no-deal crash.”
Some Labour MPs are also backing an amendment that would order May not to back a no-deal Brexit. It would give parliament the chance to block a no-deal outcome, a week before departure is set to take place.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/23/corbyns-cabinet-set-for-another-huge-rift-michael-savage-toby-helm
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Video na tnjiteru upravo
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BREAKING: A full blown cabinet coup is under way tonight to remove Theresa May as prime minister
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Samo je pitanje Hunt, Gove ili Lidington
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Hunt je najdesniji. Gove je...well, šta reći. Najbolje Lidington, ali kao i sa svim što je najbolje u poslednje vreme - ima najmanje šanse
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disident wrote:BREAKING: A full blown cabinet coup is under way tonight to remove Theresa May as prime minister
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KinderLad wrote:Hunt je najdesniji. Gove je...well, šta reći. Najbolje Lidington, ali kao i sa svim što je najbolje u poslednje vreme - ima najmanje šanse
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Dragoslav Bokan, Novi putevi oftalmologije
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Da, postoji mala, minimalna, ali ljudski je nadati se, šansa da se stranka pocepa.
Mislim, mogu da izaberu i raju, gaju i vlaju na čelo stranke, računica ostaje ista.
Mislim, mogu da izaberu i raju, gaju i vlaju na čelo stranke, računica ostaje ista.
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Pa da. Zlo kako god okrenes.
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Dragoslav Bokan, Novi putevi oftalmologije
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Oni su stvarno kraljevi, nije im dovoljan Brexit, def su rešili da rasture UK.
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Pa najbolje je što je ERG protiv Gouva
Gove ima trenutno najviše šansi kako izgleda. Hunt se suviše sluzao sa Brextremistima za ukus rimejn dela vlade i stranke. A Lidington je prosto intimno rimejner čovek, pa tako da će to teško ići.
Ma ko zna šta će biti, život pišeromaneTV serije.
Gove ima trenutno najviše šansi kako izgleda. Hunt se suviše sluzao sa Brextremistima za ukus rimejn dela vlade i stranke. A Lidington je prosto intimno rimejner čovek, pa tako da će to teško ići.
Ma ko zna šta će biti, život piše
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Suze će mi poteći za sudbinom kletom pegavih incestaša
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- Post n°167
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Ma nije njima još uvek ništa.
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Tacno su zasluzili Nodija.
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Dragoslav Bokan, Novi putevi oftalmologije
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Pa ne mogu da se dogovore oko nikog drugog, kako izgleda. Mada, što rekoh, ko zna, možda bude i Hunt
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Jos bolje. Sto brze rasparcaju UK to bolje.
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Dragoslav Bokan, Novi putevi oftalmologije
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Najbolje je sto sad treba navijati za to da May bude tvrdoglava i ne napravi trgovinu - obećanje da će dati ostavku za proguravanje deal-a. A to uvek može da se desi. Mada ni to ništa ne garantuje, ali onda bar ima šanse.
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Алстер република!
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Michael Gove probably has more support than David Lidington across the parliamentary party but a large number of ERG don’t trust either of them. Theresa May is more likely to stand down for Lidington
— Tim Shipman (@ShippersUnbound) 23 March 2019
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Још се домунђавају, или екипа за чишћење не постиже да уклони крваве мрље из тапета?
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