UK - Politika i društvo

ne može ni da nametne komesara eu, komesar mora biti potvrđen u e. parlamentu, između ostalog. može da stavlja veto, doduše.

skvoter u dauning stritu 

EU sada drzi sve karte u rukama. Njihova slabost doduse je sto ih je 27. No i ovih u UK deluje kao da ih ima minimum 5. Ako se ne desi Brexit 31. oktobra i ako izbori budu posle toga - ne postoji niko na svetu ko moze da predvidi rezultat, ni izbliza

Sta to uopste znači u kontekstu u kome već sledeća vlada ko zna kakvu će politiku voditi, da ne pričam što bi kod nekih LibDemsa u toj nekoj budućoj vladi ta zemlja mogla da odleti pravo na začelje saradnje. Besmislena poruka.

Labour’s shadow defence secretary

The primary duty of any govt is to ensure the safety and security of its citizens. Threats to end defence and security cooperation with our European and NATO partners are reckless and dangerous. Labour is firmly committed to NATO and to ensuring peace and stability in Europe. https://t.co/wxqS7Arz7U

— Nia Griffith MP (@NiaGriffithMP) October 8, 2019

However, the anonymous No 10 source spoke to broadcast journalists, saying Merkel “made clear a deal is overwhelmingly unlikely and she thinks the EU has a veto on us leaving the customs union”.

“Merkel said that if Germany wanted to leave the EU they could do it no problem, but the UK cannot leave without leaving Northern Ireland behind in a customs union and in full alignment forever,” the source said.

“She said Ireland is the government’s special problem and Ireland must at least have a veto on NI leaving. Merkel said the PM should tell Northern Ireland it must stay in full alignment forever but that even this would not eliminate customs issues.

“It was a very useful clarifying moment in all sorts of ways. If this represents a new established position then it means a deal is essentially impossible, not just now but ever. It also made clear that they are willing to torpedo the Good Friday agreement.”

Berlin declined to give its side of the conversation. A German government spokesperson said: “I can confirm that the German chancellor and the British prime minister spoke on the phone this morning. As usual, we do not report from such confidential conversations.”

Donald Tusk, the president of the European council, criticised Johnson directly, tweeting it was not about “winning some stupid blame game”.


Nicola Sturgeon

@NicolaSturgeon
The UK government’s attempt to shift the blame for the Brexit fiasco to anyone but themselves - today it’s Merkel - is pathetically transparent.


Nigel Farage

@Nigel_Farage
No British Government could ever accept Germany telling us that part of the UK has to stay in the EU.
The choice now is clear: A clean break Brexit, or stay in a new militarised empire.
Time to choose freedom.

Nemci stvarno ne umeju politike.

Merkel said that if Germany wanted to leave the EU they could do it no problem, but the UK cannot leave without leaving Northern Ireland behind in a customs union and in full alignment forever,

#nijesedesilo

velika se nesigurnost uvukla u pos'o, panika se diže globalno po više osnova, ovo sa bregzitom će da košta sve nas, pravi okidač, pored toliko klimavih domina, ova će prva da padne i poruši sve oko sebe, dolazi zima

šta bi moralo da se dogodi da bankrotira dojče bank (naravno da neće da bankrotira, čak iako bude blizu bankrota)

ja ne znam

ali to je pitanje koje sam čuo na nekoliko potpuno nepovezanih mesta

Odlično. Propast svega je naša šansa.

Miki Maus iznad Kindera, to su kompleksna pitanja ali nemoj se plasiti.

Plan B: izvredjati ih da dignu ruke

Aoj Svabo, Genseru, Genseru...

Bukvalno

Kraut=Kroat?

Kupio me Turcin

Kupio te ona stvar. Daj bre znamo se dovoljno  Ovo je užas za UK, ništa ne valja za EU i loše za NATO, what's not to like?

više liči na charge of the light brigade.....

Ali rotting inside the custom union.

Jedna od najboljih analiza do sada:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/09/brexit-crisis-global-capitalism-britain-place-world
Brexit ovakav kakav je i odraz slabosti britanske asministracije i totalnog gubljenja veza izmedju vecinski stranog kapitala i industrije koji cine britansku ekonomiju sa konzervama.

doar tekst.

tek sad vidljive posledice međunarodnog kapitala na državu:

The modern British state has distanced itself from the productive economy and is barely able to take an expert view of the complexities of modern capitalism. This was painfully clear in the Brexit impact sectoral reports the government was forced to publish – they were internet cut-and-paste jobs.

The state can no longer undertake the radical planning and intervention that might make Brexit work. That would require not only an expert state, but one closely aligned with business. The preparations would by now be very visible at both technical and political levels. But we have none of that.

ovo je na tragu (i) jedne druge stvari: moderni kapitalizam je naravno probio nacionalne/državne granice i poremetio i različite aspekte klasne borbe shvaćene u tradicionalnom smislu. i pitanje je šta je osnova za vođenje politike i u kakvom su odnosu nacionalno i internacionalno.

ovde su se torijevci, grogirani, pomerili više na pozicije engleskog nacionalizma i ono "malo" povezanog "nacionalnog" kapitala, "sišli u narod" na kontraintuitivan način.

a s druge strane, međunarodni kapital nema ko da politički zastupa  osim nešto medija i etabliranih interesnih grupa naravno.

živ nisam da vidim kako će se ukvadraturiti taj krug.

Naravno da ima da ih stiti, eto upravo Guardian.
Liberali i etablirani levicari, to bi u UK trebao biti New Labour, su danas najveci zastitnici krupnog kapitala kroz globalizaciju.

Gargantua wrote:doar tekst.

tek sad vidljive posledice međunarodnog kapitala na državu:

The modern British state has distanced itself from the productive economy and is barely able to take an expert view of the complexities of modern capitalism. This was painfully clear in the Brexit impact sectoral reports the government was forced to publish – they were internet cut-and-paste jobs.

The state can no longer undertake the radical planning and intervention that might make Brexit work. That would require not only an expert state, but one closely aligned with business. The preparations would by now be very visible at both technical and political levels. But we have none of that.

ovo je na tragu (i) jedne druge stvari: moderni kapitalizam je naravno probio nacionalne/državne granice i poremetio i različite aspekte klasne borbe shvaćene u tradicionalnom smislu. i pitanje je šta je osnova za vođenje politike i u kakvom su odnosu nacionalno i internacionalno.

ovde su se torijevci, grogirani, pomerili više na pozicije engleskog nacionalizma i ono "malo" povezanog "nacionalnog" kapitala, "sišli u narod" na kontraintuitivan način.

a s druge strane, međunarodni kapital nema ko da politički zastupa  osim nešto medija i etabliranih interesnih grupa naravno.

živ nisam da vidim kako će se ukvadraturiti taj krug.

Fintana O'Tool je to mislim prvi ozbiljno izanalizirao. Pri tom, tu nema nista sustinski nelegitimno, osim toga da se ne pojavljuje u tom obliku zvanicno pa onda hubris se izliva i preliva posvuda. Bilo bi bolje da se pojavljuje jer bi onda bilo jasno o cemu se prica. Dobar deo Engleza je resio da sebi odsece kuracposlednje ostatke imperije, a njen poslednji ostatak je sama UK. Apsolutno njihovo suvereno pravo. Dakle, nije u narodu problem (kao i obicno). Problem je u tome sto kod Brexit kolovodja nije u pitanju to, nego imperijalni refleks koji je nemoguce ukopiti u tu u stvari zelju Brexit Engleza za nekom fakticki novom suverenoscu. To je prva kvadratura kruga. Pa onda na to dolazi taj biznis/korporacijski aspekt koji je i sam po sebi neresiv. Znaci 1 zagonetka obmotana misterijom u okviru enigme