Levica u Srbiji i svetu

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So, let me tell you a few things about Eastern Europeans and NATO and Russia.

We see NATO in a completely different, and I dare say much more nuanced way. We are not fans of it, and we can agree with you on many, many reasons to criticise it.  But when you say “Fuck NATO” or “End NATO expansion”, what I hear is that you do not care about the safety and wellbeing of my Eastern European friends, family and comrades. You are happy to put my mum at risk for cheap political points you would not even be able to act on, you bastards!

When you talk about “expansion”, with everything this word implies, really, you are referring to this process in which Eastern Europe, for the reason of other countries making decisions over our heads in 1945, quite literally tip-toed around Russia petitioning it to allow us do what we wanted to do. Eventually, this resulted in Russia signing something called the Founding Act on Mutual Relations, Cooperation and Security between NATO and the Russian Federation. This happened in May 1997 and Russia, finally, agreed to what you are now calling “expansion” provided that certain conditions are met. These conditions effectively made us second-class members of NATO, but hey ho, that is all we could get and we went for it. Poland joined NATO in 1999, the Baltic countries followed in 2004. And for now, I want them to stay there, and it doesn’t have much to do with politics tbh. It is a self-preservation instinct, but this is another thing you will just not get. You talk more about “NATO expansion” than you talk about the fact that you are the funding members of it.

Further, you talk about how you desire to stop “NATO expansion” but you don’t really mention what, exactly, would be a viable alternative to it. This is not acceptable at all, it just shows your privilege of growing up in a country where your life story was not littered with, how exciting, tantrums and aggressions of various scales of this great, unpredictable force that assumes it can throw its way anywhere where there is no NATO. So tell me, how exactly will you assure our safety? What is this NATO alternative you are advocating for? Have you considered asking us what we think of it? Or did you just decide, as you did many times in your history, and to many other countries you felt superior towards,  that it will be you, and your leaders, who will be setting the cards on the table, and we just need to submit? Did you already take out your ruler to make straight lines on the map, except that this time it will be the map of the place where I grew up?

And this is beyond Personal is Political – what is most enraging is that the people doing the Westplaining are absolutely the same ones that will cry over Trump over Twitter, but will not lift a finger to get his yilk out! You are not some soldiers, you are cowards! And when you are a coward, the only self-respect you may have is some moral virtue, or superiority. It may get you followers, but it costs lives, it costs faith, it costs political disorientation, it reproduces docility. Antifascism is protecting people from individuals with structural power. Right now that is Putin.

Vilmos Tehenészfiú wrote:Video kod Garija na tviteru: 

https://freedomnews.org.uk/2022/03/04/fuck-leftist-westplaining/

So tell me, how exactly will you assure our safety? What is this NATO alternative you are advocating for? Have you considered asking us what we think of it? Or did you just decide, as you did many times in your history, and to many other countries you felt superior towards,  that it will be you, and your leaders, who will be setting the cards on the table, and we just need to submit? Did you already take out your ruler to make straight lines on the map, except that this time it will be the map of the place where I grew up?

Erős Pista wrote:https://pescanik.net/pismo-zapadnoj-levici-iz-ukrajine/

Invazija je zbunila i intelektualnu ljevicu naviknutu da za gotovo sve svjetske probleme krivi zapad. Ukrajinski ljevičari Taras Bilous i Vladimir Artjuh u otvorenim su pismima kritizirali takav "antiimperijalizam za idiote" zapadne ljevice. Što bi bila ispravna lijeva perspektiva?
Osobno sam često pisao protiv pojednostavljenih interpretacija Euromajdana, koji je dio zapadne ljevice pogrešno vidio kao državni udar poduprt sa zapada, baš kao što su separatističke republike u Donbasu viđene kao proto-socijalističke, dok su u stvarnosti marionete vrlo nesocijalističkog ruskog režima. No u ovom je trenutku diskusija o krivnji zapadnih ljevičara kao Putinovih korisnih idiota vrlo štetna za ljevicu. Debata o podcjenjivanju ruskog imperijalizma je važna, ali ne treba je voditi u trenucima intenzivnih emocija i koristeći moralne ucjene.
Kao posljedica invazije nastupit će snažan desničarski val koji će i u istočnoj i u zapadnoj Evropi uvelike suziti prostor ljevice. Ne trebamo se sami razoružavati i otvarati za desne napade. Ogromna većina europske ljevice osuđuje ruski imperijalizam i jasno im je da invazija vodi u katastrofu, baš kao i američka invazija Iraka. Ljevica treba ofenzivne argumente. Ne smijemo pristati na zabranu diskusija o suučesništvu NATO-a i postmajdanskog režima u Ukrajini, o razlozima neprovođenja sporazuma iz Minska ili odnosima NATO-a i Rusije. To bi značilo kapitulaciju, naročito na istoku Europe gdje u eri nadolazećeg neomakartizma možda više ni osnovne lijeve argumente neće biti moguće iznositi bez optužbe da ste ruski špijun.

Del Cap wrote:

Vilmos Tehenészfiú wrote:Video kod Garija na tviteru: 

https://freedomnews.org.uk/2022/03/04/fuck-leftist-westplaining/

Zanimljiva temeljna zbrka.

Što bi neko "assureovao" tuđu bezbednost? I to je neka obaveza, valjda tamo neki Amer ili Španac ima pravo da odluči da ne troši svoju energiju na to, to je pitanje nečije kalkulacije interesa a ne neupitna datost.

Autor ne želi da neko drugi radi "setting the cards" ali želi da određeni drugi baš mora da "assure our safety". "Nemojte da settujete cards ali dajte da temeljna postavka bude takva da nam vi dajete blanko kišobran protiv suseda".