Povraća mi se od ovog foruma.
Блиски исток
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@pace Pa svi vi iz Banata ste direktno profitirali od politike “nema nevinog, krivic je kolektivna”, jer su Nemci - od babe do unuke - bili kolektivno krivi i netragom nestali odatle. Al je bitno da si nam reko da se to ne računa, kolektivna krivica je novitet za tebe, nije to bilo da ti znaš do pre 30 godina.
Povraća mi se od ovog foruma.
Povraća mi se od ovog foruma.
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"Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."
“Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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Vilmos Tehenészfiú wrote:Brt, ovo što sam napisao je pisalo u novinama još dok je Teton ležao u komi. Nisam ja toliko maštovit da ovo izmislim. Možda je novinar na zadatku izmislio, ja svakako nisam.One Eyed Bob wrote:
Ladno si dodao tu izmišljotinu o Brisu Tatonu da bi uspostavio analogiju sa ovim događajem. Ne brt, Bris Taton je imao navijačka obeležja i zato su ga ubili, a ovi su pevali o ubijanju dece pa su dobili malo po leđima, i to ima dabome isti šmek. Pakao.
Vi ladno kmečite zbog nečega što se u pristojnom društvu smatra normalnim postupkom, da se fašista stavi na mesto. Pišite sada Lendisu da menja Blues Brothers, jer su Džejk i Elvud pobacali naciste sa mosta, a nasilje nije pristojno.
Drugo, ti ladno zaobilaziš vesti da su zaštitnici palestinske nejači i življa koordinirano lovili manje grupice navijača koje po svemu sudeći veze nisu imale za incidentom koji te je trigerovao. Upao si u pravedni bes verziju Vase circa 2015, i to me čini tužnim.
Naravno da je izmisljeno to za Tatona, kampanja za oslobadjanje njegovih ubica je bila jeziva, po svim tabloidima. Da li ne moguce da ozbiljno ponavljas te gadosti?
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Vilmos Tehenészfiú wrote:@pace Pa svi vi iz Banata ste direktno profitirali od politike “nema nevinog, krivic je kolektivna”, jer su Nemci - od babe do unuke - bili kolektivno krivi i netragom nestali odatle. Al je bitno da si nam reko da se to ne računa, kolektivna krivica je novitet za tebe, nije to bilo da ti znaš do pre 30 godina.
Povraća mi se od ovog foruma.
Jel zbog majoneza?
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@Pista: Ja ti kažem šta smo čuli prvog dana. Kasnije smo saznali šta je stvarno bilo. Da li mnogo očekujem ako kažem da sačekamo par dana da čujemo šta se stvarno dogodilo pre nego krenemo da se radujemo što je Jicak završio u kanalu?
Evo da ti kažem šta je meni na pameti. Kada navijači dolaze na utakmicu visokog rizika, na železničkoj stanici (ili na aerodomu) ih dočeka policija, sprovede do stadiona, deset minuta pre kraja ih izvede napolje i sprovede nazad. Ovde toga nije bilo. Zašto? Ko ih je pustio same u centar grada, i ko nije rekao policiji da budu blizu? To me zanima.
Evo da ti kažem šta je meni na pameti. Kada navijači dolaze na utakmicu visokog rizika, na železničkoj stanici (ili na aerodomu) ih dočeka policija, sprovede do stadiona, deset minuta pre kraja ih izvede napolje i sprovede nazad. Ovde toga nije bilo. Zašto? Ko ih je pustio same u centar grada, i ko nije rekao policiji da budu blizu? To me zanima.
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"Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."
“Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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Samo da se zna da nisam rekao da si ti izmislio, to bi bila dosta teška i ružna optužba i ne mislim da imaš to u sebi.
Meni forum sada super, ima raznih stavova, uopšte mi se ne povraća od njega.
Meni forum sada super, ima raznih stavova, uopšte mi se ne povraća od njega.
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Gdje punac drži pive?
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Erős Pista wrote:Vilmos Tehenészfiú wrote:@pace Pa svi vi iz Banata ste direktno profitirali od politike “nema nevinog, krivic je kolektivna”, jer su Nemci - od babe do unuke - bili kolektivno krivi i netragom nestali odatle. Al je bitno da si nam reko da se to ne računa, kolektivna krivica je novitet za tebe, nije to bilo da ti znaš do pre 30 godina.
Povraća mi se od ovog foruma.
Jel zbog majoneza?
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"Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."
“Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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Eto… nekom smrkne nekom svane.One Eyed Bob wrote:Samo da se zna da nisam rekao da si ti izmislio, to bi bila dosta teška i ružna optužba i ne mislim da imaš to u sebi.
Meni forum sada super, ima raznih stavova, uopšte mi se ne povraća od njega.
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"Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."
“Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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Ovako, ja ne bih imo ništa protiv te šorke da se skupilo njih 500 i uletelo u onu masu što peva o ubijanju Arapa i jebalo im kevu. Individualno presretanje mi je malo bez veze. Odnosno ne znam, nisam dovoljno pratio, možda se ta grupna tuča negde i dogodila, ali nisam uspeo to da vidim.
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A policijski failure je potpun, kao i Uefin.
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Vilmos Tehenészfiú wrote:@pace Pa svi vi iz Banata ste direktno profitirali od politike “nema nevinog, krivic je kolektivna”, jer su Nemci - od babe do unuke - bili kolektivno krivi i netragom nestali odatle. Al je bitno da si nam reko da se to ne računa, kolektivna krivica je novitet za tebe, nije to bilo da ti znaš do pre 30 godina.
Профитирали су ови што су усељени уместо њих.
А санкција би као требало да се не сећам.
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И кажем себи у сну, еј бре коњу па ти ни немаш озвучење, имаш оне две кутијице око монитора, видећеш кад се пробудиш...
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Nektivni Ugnelj wrote:A policijski failure je potpun, kao i Uefin.
pa da. nista ovo ne bi bilo da su izraelski klubovi sankcionisani.
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And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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boomer crook wrote:Nektivni Ugnelj wrote:A policijski failure je potpun, kao i Uefin.
pa da. nista ovo ne bi bilo da su izraelski klubovi sankcionisani.
Замисли да Израел направи олимпијаду и има кворум као на играма Брикса.
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И кажем себи у сну, еј бре коњу па ти ни немаш озвучење, имаш оне две кутијице око монитора, видећеш кад се пробудиш...
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Моша!
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И кажем себи у сну, еј бре коњу па ти ни немаш озвучење, имаш оне две кутијице око монитора, видећеш кад се пробудиш...
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Profitirale i komšije koje su preuzele stoku i živinu.паће wrote:Vilmos Tehenészfiú wrote:@pace Pa svi vi iz Banata ste direktno profitirali od politike “nema nevinog, krivic je kolektivna”, jer su Nemci - od babe do unuke - bili kolektivno krivi i netragom nestali odatle. Al je bitno da si nam reko da se to ne računa, kolektivna krivica je novitet za tebe, nije to bilo da ti znaš do pre 30 godina.
Профитирали су ови што су усељени уместо њих.
А санкција би као требало да се не сећам.
Nisu profitirali tamburaši.
Nije prob cega se secas, nego onog sto prećutiš zbog dramskog efekta.
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"Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."
“Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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Vilmos Tehenészfiú wrote:Profitirale i komšije koje su preuzele stoku i živinu.паће wrote:
Профитирали су ови што су усељени уместо њих.
А санкција би као требало да се не сећам.
Nisu profitirali tamburaši.
Nije prob cega se secas, nego onog sto prećutiš zbog dramskog efekta.
Ту си онда и ти прећутао да се Тито трампио - нама имовина војвођанских Немаца, па нећемо тражити ратну одштету.
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И кажем себи у сну, еј бре коњу па ти ни немаш озвучење, имаш оне две кутијице око монитора, видећеш кад се пробудиш...
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Bilo je i ratne odštete. Valjaonica bakra u Sevojnu npr.
Ed: mada mi se mnogo sviđa ovaj izraz: ”Tito trampio”. Konačno sam shvatio na koga me Tramp podseća kada krene da baljezga sve što mu tog trenutka padne na pamet.
Ed: mada mi se mnogo sviđa ovaj izraz: ”Tito trampio”. Konačno sam shvatio na koga me Tramp podseća kada krene da baljezga sve što mu tog trenutka padne na pamet.
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čika Condor wrote:Bilo je i ratne odštete. Valjaonica bakra u Sevojnu npr.
Naravno da je bilo, znam i za mašine, odnosno kompletna prizvodna linija karabina i mitraljeza. Imovina banatskih Nijemaca je valjda izbijena iz ukupne cijene odštete.
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Međuopštinski pustolov.
Zli stolar.
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A zatvorenici koji su radili u Nemačkoj tokom rata su od te odštete dobili… kurac da izbiju oči, uglavnom.
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"Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."
“Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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Genocid
Nearly 70% of Gaza war dead are women and children, UN says https://t.co/4f30gQ1zRw
— BBC News (World) (@BBCWorld) November 8, 2024
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Što se ostaloga tiče, smatram da Zapad treba razoriti
Jedini proleter Burundija
Pristalica krvne osvete
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[size=60]Fact check: Amsterdam video doesn't show attack on Israelis[/size]
Rayna Breuer | Rachel Baig
6 hours ago6 hours ago
Violence broke out following the recent Europa League match between Ajax Amsterdam and Maccabi Tel Aviv. A video showing the riots was misrepresented by many media outlets. DW takes a closer look
In the days after the riots following the soccer match between Ajax Amsterdam and Maccabi Tel Aviv, international media coverage of the event has been heavily criticized. A video published by a Dutch photographer on the X platform was rebroadcast by many media outlets — and misrepresented in the process.
On the night from Thursday to Friday in Amsterdam, Israeli fans clashed with locals and pro-Palestinian supporters during the Europa League match between Dutch first-division team Ajax Amsterdam and Maccabi Tel Aviv. According to police, riots broke out in several places in the city center, 62 people were arrested and five people were taken to hospital.
The attacks on Israeli fans in Amsterdam have caused international outrage. However, according to the police, Maccabi supporters had also previously rioted and provoked, burning Palestinian flags, among other acts.
To illustrate this, a video by Dutch photographer Annet De Graaf was used several times to show the acts of violence committed by Israeli fans. However, it was misrepresented by many major media outlets in their reporting. Many users shared and disseminated the viral posts with the same false claims, as seen here.
German media outlets such as the German broadcaster Tagesschau, the newspapers FAZ and Bild, and international media like the The Wall Street Journal, Channel 4, and BBC showed either parts of this video or screenshots.
Claim: "Israeli soccer fans were chased and beaten in Amsterdam in what Israeli and Dutch politicians called antisemitic attacks," wrote The Wall Street Journal in a headline found here.
The German newspaper Bild also used a screenshot from the video with the caption: "The hunt for Jews has broken out again: Arab mob chases soccer fans in Amsterdam."
DW Fact check: False
The video by De Graaf actually shows supporters of the Israeli soccer club Maccabi Tel Aviv attacking locals around Amsterdam Central Station.
It, therefore, does not show pro-Palestinians chasing Israelis, as has been falsely claimed by several media outlets, but instead Israeli soccer fans attacking locals and pro-Palestinian soccer fans.
Another video by a young Dutch reporter, Ome Bender, supports De Graaf's version because it shows the same violent scenes from a different angle.
Many users have repeatedly pointed out the misuse of the images on social networks, as has De Graaf herself. They explained that the perpetrators were Israeli, and not pro-Palestinian soccer fans.
In a viral post, De Graaf asked the media to classify her material correctly and issue an apology. A journalist from Tagesschau has already complied with this request. Tagesschau itself has issued a correction and edited the initial video and posted a new version online.
DW also did not initially categorize the images correctly, but has since published a correction under the post:
"We showed the clips marked with the watermark X/iAnnet in the wrong context. The author of the clip says she filmed Maccabi supporters who attacked Amsterdam citizens in front of Central Station after the game."
Other media have now also replaced or deleted the video sequences or published corrections.
The exact identity of the men in the video remains unclear. A spokeswoman for the Amsterdam police said in an interview with DW that the video taken by the Dutch photographer is the subject of an ongoing investigation. At present, the police cannot provide any information about the identity of the perpetrators seen in the video.
Edited by: Martin Kuebler
https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-amsterdam-video-doesnt-show-attack-on-israelis/a-70763374
Rayna Breuer | Rachel Baig
6 hours ago6 hours ago
Violence broke out following the recent Europa League match between Ajax Amsterdam and Maccabi Tel Aviv. A video showing the riots was misrepresented by many media outlets. DW takes a closer look
In the days after the riots following the soccer match between Ajax Amsterdam and Maccabi Tel Aviv, international media coverage of the event has been heavily criticized. A video published by a Dutch photographer on the X platform was rebroadcast by many media outlets — and misrepresented in the process.
On the night from Thursday to Friday in Amsterdam, Israeli fans clashed with locals and pro-Palestinian supporters during the Europa League match between Dutch first-division team Ajax Amsterdam and Maccabi Tel Aviv. According to police, riots broke out in several places in the city center, 62 people were arrested and five people were taken to hospital.
The attacks on Israeli fans in Amsterdam have caused international outrage. However, according to the police, Maccabi supporters had also previously rioted and provoked, burning Palestinian flags, among other acts.
To illustrate this, a video by Dutch photographer Annet De Graaf was used several times to show the acts of violence committed by Israeli fans. However, it was misrepresented by many major media outlets in their reporting. Many users shared and disseminated the viral posts with the same false claims, as seen here.
German media outlets such as the German broadcaster Tagesschau, the newspapers FAZ and Bild, and international media like the The Wall Street Journal, Channel 4, and BBC showed either parts of this video or screenshots.
Claim: "Israeli soccer fans were chased and beaten in Amsterdam in what Israeli and Dutch politicians called antisemitic attacks," wrote The Wall Street Journal in a headline found here.
The German newspaper Bild also used a screenshot from the video with the caption: "The hunt for Jews has broken out again: Arab mob chases soccer fans in Amsterdam."
DW Fact check: False
The video by De Graaf actually shows supporters of the Israeli soccer club Maccabi Tel Aviv attacking locals around Amsterdam Central Station.
It, therefore, does not show pro-Palestinians chasing Israelis, as has been falsely claimed by several media outlets, but instead Israeli soccer fans attacking locals and pro-Palestinian soccer fans.
Another video by a young Dutch reporter, Ome Bender, supports De Graaf's version because it shows the same violent scenes from a different angle.
Many users have repeatedly pointed out the misuse of the images on social networks, as has De Graaf herself. They explained that the perpetrators were Israeli, and not pro-Palestinian soccer fans.
In a viral post, De Graaf asked the media to classify her material correctly and issue an apology. A journalist from Tagesschau has already complied with this request. Tagesschau itself has issued a correction and edited the initial video and posted a new version online.
DW also did not initially categorize the images correctly, but has since published a correction under the post:
"We showed the clips marked with the watermark X/iAnnet in the wrong context. The author of the clip says she filmed Maccabi supporters who attacked Amsterdam citizens in front of Central Station after the game."
Other media have now also replaced or deleted the video sequences or published corrections.
The exact identity of the men in the video remains unclear. A spokeswoman for the Amsterdam police said in an interview with DW that the video taken by the Dutch photographer is the subject of an ongoing investigation. At present, the police cannot provide any information about the identity of the perpetrators seen in the video.
Edited by: Martin Kuebler
https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-amsterdam-video-doesnt-show-attack-on-israelis/a-70763374
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Vraćanje perja u jastuk je često jalov posao.
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beatakeshi wrote:Vraćanje perja u jastuk je često jalov posao.
И даље је лакше него враћање пасте у тубу... Ал' тачно сам знао да ће овако бити, да ће она прва вест („израелски навијачи дивљали па добили по пичци“) да буде склоњена и да ће контра добити много већи тираж.
(ако чЦ буде написао нешто, не читам га)
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И кажем себи у сну, еј бре коњу па ти ни немаш озвучење, имаш оне две кутијице око монитора, видећеш кад се пробудиш...
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Evo Paće samo za tebe: čika C misli da kad se tuku navijači - da tu obično nema pravedne strane.
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Da, kao onomad kad su se oni francuzi pokacili sa grobarima.
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