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    Post by rumbeando Sun Dec 10, 2023 10:31 am

    ​"Ubijanje bez presedana": udeo ubijenih civila je veći nego u bilo kom sukobu u XX veku, uključujući oba svetska rata, kaže Harec.
     
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    Post by rumbeando Sun Dec 10, 2023 1:48 pm

    Jair Netanjahu, sin izraelskog premijera, koji naravno nije mobilisan i provodi se po Floridi tj. Majami Biču dok mu sunarodnici ginu, okačio na Instagramu mapu po kojoj je Jordan zapravo Palestina, što implicira da je ono što ceo svet smatra okupiranim palestinskim teritorijama zapravo Izrael.

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    https://www.instagram.com/stories/yair_netanyahu/3254193523953644804/?hl=en
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    Post by rumbeando Sun Dec 10, 2023 3:24 pm

    To je naravno potpuno u skladu s mapom Izraela koja obuhvata sve trenutno okupirane teritorije - i Pojas Gaze, i Zapadnu obalu i Golansku visoravan, a kojom je njegov otac mahao u UN-u u septembru.

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    Poređenja radi, ovako izgleda mapa Izraela bez okupiranih teritorija​​​​​​​.

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    Post by Del Cap Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:04 pm

    došli ljudi i poboli zastavu

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    Post by Del Cap Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:27 pm

    WaPo:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/12/09/us-weapons-israel-gaza/


    American-made arms have played a central role in the war. In the first month and a half, Israel dropped more than 22,000 guided and unguided bombs on Gaza that were supplied by Washington, according to previously undisclosed intelligence figures provided to Congress. And during that time, the United States has transferred at least 15,000 bombs, including 2,000-pound bunker busters, and more than 50,000 155mm artillery shells.
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    The Biden administration has not declined any request from Israel, officials said, and no cutoff of military assistance is being considered or communicated. And officials stressed that the administration believes it can better influence Israel’s treatment of civilians if it maintains strong backing for the Jewish state.
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    During the Reagan administration, the United States did suspend arms shipments to Israel over concerns about the use of cluster munitions in neighboring Lebanon.
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    This week, five senators appealed to Biden, condemning the Hamas attack but also decrying the human suffering resulting from Israel’s campaign.

    “The risk of violating international law and our own standards increases as Israel uses explosive weapons in densely populated areas,” Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.), Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Tim Kaine (D-Va.), and Martin Heinrich (D-N.M.) wrote.

    Lawmakers also complain about the administration’s lack of transparency about the weapons provided to Israel, a stark contrast to how it has accounted for aid to Ukraine. A measure introduced this week by Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.) would require the administration to verify that arms are being used in accordance with international law.

    In an interview, Warren said the U.S. government had an obligation to condition assistance on compliance with U.S. and global laws.

    “It is critical, she said, “that we follow in real time whether those who receive our aid are, in fact, protecting civilian lives.”
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    Post by rumbeando Sun Dec 10, 2023 6:02 pm

    Po zadnjem izveštaju​​​​​​​ UN-a 78% (dakle skoro četiri petine) Palestinaca iz Pojasa Gaze je interno raseljeno, u apsolutnim brojevima 1,93 miliona, a ubijeno je preko 7700 dece i skoro 5200 žena, koji čine 70% ubijenih.

    https://www.ochaopt.org/content/hostilities-gaza-strip-and-israel-reported-impact-day-64
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    Post by rumbeando Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:07 pm

    ​Karl Skau, zamenik izvršnog direktora Svetskog programa za hranu UN, koji je trenutno na licu mesta, izjavio je da se humanitarna operacija raspada, da je situacija sve više haotična jer očajni ljudi otimaju zalihe iz skladišta i s kamiona koje zaustavljaju ako uspore na raskrsnicama i naglasio da polovina populacije Pojasa Gaze gladuje, a da 90% populacije ne uspeva da jede svakog dana, prenosi Rojters.

    [Deputy executive director of the U.N. World Food Programme Carl] Skau said the situation inside Gaza was increasingly chaotic as people grabbed what they could from aid distribution points, with larger numbers of people displaced southwards close to the border with Egypt and aid trucks at risk of being stopped by desperate residents if they even slow down at an intersection.

    "There is a question for how long this can continue, because the humanitarian operation is collapsing," he said.

    "Half of the population are starving, nine out of 10 are not eating every day. Obviously the needs are massive."
    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-aid-checks-kerem-shalom-being-tested-crossing-not-open-un-official-2023-12-09/
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    Post by rumbeando Sun Dec 10, 2023 10:00 pm

    Izraelski Kanal 12 emitovao svedočenje jedine preživele (tom prilikom izgubila muža) od 14 talaca zarobljenih u jednoj kući sa 40 hamasovaca u kibucu Beri o tome kako su ih 7.X pobili Izraelci.

    https://www.uncaptured.media/p/fresh-testimony-reveals-how-israel
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    Post by fikret selimbašić Tue Dec 12, 2023 3:30 pm



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    Post by Guest Tue Dec 12, 2023 6:16 pm

    Заборавио је да је Алахово прво име Јехова…
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    Post by fikret selimbašić Tue Dec 12, 2023 6:21 pm

    No Country wrote:Заборавио је да је Алахово прво име Јехова…

    Elohim. Selam alejkum, šalom alehem.


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    Post by Guest Tue Dec 12, 2023 6:23 pm

    Of course. Као Срби и Хрвати.
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    Post by rumbeando Tue Dec 12, 2023 6:37 pm

    Bajden počeo da spominje potrebu da se spreči naglo okretanje svetskog javnog mnjenja na štetu Izraela. Za to vreme, prvi čovek EU za spoljnu politiku Žozep Borelj izjavio da je situacija u Gazi katastrofalna, čak apokaliptična, a stepen uništenja veći i od onog u Nemačkoj na kraju II svetskog rata. Još je naglasio da ova ljudska patnja predstavlja izazov bez presedana za međunarodnu zajednicu i da civili čine 60-70 odsto poginulih.

    “We continue to provide military assistance until they get rid of Hamas,” Biden said Monday at a White House Hanukkah reception. “But we have to be careful. They have to be careful. The whole world’s public opinion can shift overnight - we can’t let that happen.”
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-12-12/biden-warns-israel-that-public-opinion-can-shift-in-hamas-war

    The situation in Gaza is “catastrophic, apocalyptic,” with destruction proportionally “even greater” than that which Germany experienced in World War II, the EU’s top diplomat, Josep Borrell, said Monday. (...)

    “The human suffering constitutes an unprecedented challenge to the international community,” Borrell said.

    “Civilian casualties are between 60 and 70 percent of the overall deaths,” based on Gaza health ministry figures, and “85% of the population is internally displaced.”

    “The destruction of buildings in Gaza… is more or less or even greater than the destruction suffered by the German cities during the Second World War,” taken proportionally, Borrell said.
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/top-eu-diplomat-gaza-destruction-proportionally-even-greater-than-in-wwii-germany/
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    Post by fikret selimbašić Tue Dec 12, 2023 7:48 pm

    Nemamo Poljska topik.




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    Post by rumbeando Tue Dec 12, 2023 8:29 pm

    Turski narodni poslanik i potpredsednik islamističke partije Sadet Hasan Bitmez za govornicom parlamenta rekao onima koji podržavaju Izrael da su saučesnici, da imaju krv Palestinaca na rukama i da neće izbeći gnev Alaha, a zatim se srušio zbog srčanog udara. Oživljavan je na licu mesta, a sad je u bolnici.

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    Post by паће Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:04 am

    Нема стила. Какав битмез.


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    Post by rumbeando Wed Dec 13, 2023 11:00 am

    Generalna skupština odnosom 15:1 izglasala otprilike istu rezoluciju s pozivom na trenutno uspostavljanje humanitarnog prekida vatre i puštanje svih talaca kao onu što nije prošla u Savetu bezbednosti pre neki dan.

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    WSJ potvrdio da Izraelci potapaju tunele morskom vodom još od kraja novembra.

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    Post by MNE Wed Dec 13, 2023 11:28 am

    na vrijeme su se sjetili, mogli su sačekati dok Izrael sve to očisti

    "i da civili čine 60-70 odsto poginulih."

    to je otprilike kao u 2. svjetskom zajedno sa svim logorima i genocidima
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    Post by rumbeando Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:45 pm

    Bajden rekao da Izrael neselektivno bombarduje i pozvao Netanjahua da promeni koalicione partnere.


    U drugim vestima, pored 10.000 ubijene dece od početka izraelskog napada na Pojas Gaze, organizacija za ljudska prava Euro-Med Monitor tvrdi da je između 24 i 25 hiljada dece ostalo siročad, dakle bez barem jednog roditelja.

    https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/6020/Over-10,000-infants-and-children-killed-in-Israel%E2%80%99s-Gaza-genocide,-hundreds-of-whom-are-trapped-beneath-debris
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    Post by Del Cap Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:18 pm

    ludi su za medalju


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    Post by beatakeshi Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:40 pm

    Ne razumem, zašto su se povukli?
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    Post by rumbeando Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:53 pm

    Imaš citat koji im je neprihvatljiv na engleskom usred saopštenja.

    Ceo Mašin članak:
    https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-weekend-essay/in-the-shadow-of-the-holocaust
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    Post by Del Cap Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:10 pm

    zato što je uporedila gazu (kao geto) sa nacoškim getoima u 2sr



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    Post by boomer crook Thu Dec 14, 2023 10:05 am

    meanwhile in 1948

    But Arendt was brutally opposed to the extreme Revisionist Zionism that became normative Israeli Zionism. In December 1948 Arendt wrote a long essay in the New York Times in which she violated the *Verbot* of comparing Israel to fascists:

    "Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (nuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy, and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine. The current visit of Menachem Begin, leader of this party, to the United States is obviously calculated to give the impression of American support for his party in the coming Israeli elections, and to cement political ties with conservative Zionist elements in the United States. Several Americans of national repute have lent their names to welcome his visit. It is inconceivable that those who oppose fascism throughout the world, if correctly informed as to Mr. Begin's political record and perspectives, could add their names and support to the movement he represents."
    "A shocking example was their behavior in the Arab village of Deir Yassin. This village, off the main roads and surrounded by Jewish lands, had taken no part in the war, and had even fought off Arab bands who wanted to use the village as their base. On April, The New York Times reported that terrorist bands attacked this peaceful village, which was not a military objective in the fighting, killed most of its inhabitants — 240 men, women, and children-and kept a few of them alive to parade as captives through the streets of Jeru-salem. Most of the Jewish community was horrified at the deed, and the Jewish Agency sent a telegram of apology to King Abdullah of Transjordan. But the terrorists, far from being ashamed of their act, were proud of this massacre, publicized it widely, and invited all the foreign correspondents present in the country to view the heaped corpses and the general havoc at Deir Yassin."
    "The Deir Yassin incident exemplifies the character and actions of the Freedom Party. Within the Jewish community they have preached an admixture of ultra-nationalism, religious mysticism, and racial superiority. Like other fascist parties they have been used to break strikes, and have themselves pressed for the destruction of free trade unions. In their stead they have proposed corporate unions on the Italian Fascist model. During the last year of sporadic anti-British violence, the IZL and Stern groups inaugurated a reign of terror in the Palestine Jewish community. Teachers were beaten up for speaking against them, adults were shot for not letting their children join them. By gangster methods, beatings, window-smashing, and widespread robberies, the terrorists intimidated the population and exacted a heavy tribute."


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