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[size=48]Gaza: Decomposing bodies of babies 'seen in footage' from abandoned children's hospital[/size]
Scenes captured on film were described as an "unspeakable tragedy", while a doctor who was involved in the evacuation explained why the babies could not be moved.
A video taken in an abandoned Gaza hospital appears to show the decomposing bodies of babies who were left behind during evacuations.
The paediatric intensive care unit at al Nasr children's hospital was evacuated around 10 November as the Israeli military continued its ground invasion into northern Gaza and called for people to leave the area.
Follow live: UK launching surveillance flights over Gaza
During the week-long ceasefire, Mohammed Baalousha, a journalist with the Emirati TV channel Al Mashhad, entered the building where he found the bodies of several infants who had to be left in their beds while others escaped.
Warning: This article contains graphic content
Filmed around two weeks after the hospital was emptied, footage from the channel appeared to show at least three of five dead infants, according to Sky News' US partner site NBC.
Their bodies were decaying, including one that had insects appearing to crawl over its chest.
All were near catheters and ventilators and one infant appeared to still be connected to a machine that measures the oxygen levels in blood, with tanks of the gas nearby, NBC reported.
The advanced stages of decomposition of the infants are consistent with the timeframe between them being abandoned and the date the video was shot, two independent forensic pathologists told NBC.
The US broadcaster was unable to verify the status of the infants within this two-week period.
Dr Mustafa al Kahlot, director of the hospital, said staff concluded they could not safely evacuate five babies, several of whom were premature and "on oxygen machines" when Israeli tanks encircled the facility.
"Our evacuation from al Nasr hospital was very difficult and under fire," he told NBC. "Children cannot be carried by hand or evacuated without oxygen equipment."
In footage taken before the evacuation, Dr al Kahlot is seen in the same hospital room, warning that the building was the target of bombings, and that one child had already died due to a "lack of oxygen".
A similar situation was faced at al Shifa hospital - one of Gaza's largest - which came under intense bombardment by Israeli forces.
A group of 28 premature babies who were described as having "serious infections" were transported from Gaza to a hospital in Egypt, where they continued to receive treatment.
One nurse, who works with the charity Doctors Without Borders (MSF), was voluntarily working at al Nasr hospital at the time it was evacuated.
'We only took one baby'
An audio recording he took on 10 November described a "sniper shooting" making it impossible for anyone to leave or move from the building, NBC reported.
"Five patients remained in the intensive care unit on the oxygen machine," he is heard saying in the recording. "We left them. We only took one baby."
"We had to leave patients on the beds. We could not take any patient with us," the same nurse said in a separate video taken within this timeframe and seen by NBC.
Ashraf al Qudra, a spokesperson for the Gaza health ministry, said medical teams could not evacuate the five children by hand as there must be "health standards for transporting them".
He told NBC that he blamed the Israeli military for the infants' deaths.
The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) said it was not involved in any evacuation operations, despite receiving "several requests" for help from hospitals in northern Gaza.
"Footage circulating of deceased newborn babies represents an unspeakable tragedy, an unacceptable reality of how civilians - including babies and children - pay the price in conflict," the ICRC said in a statement.
In response to the claims, the Israel Defence Forces said "it did not operate inside al Nasr hospital," and that "these allegations are not only false but also a perverse exploitation of innocent lives, used as tools to spread dangerous misinformation".
"This is more evident when taking into account that the IDF assisted in moving newborns from the pediatric ward of the Shifa hospital to safety, as well as provide Israeli incubators in the process," the statement added.
https://news.sky.com/story/gaza-decomposing-bodies-of-babies-seen-in-footage-from-abandoned-childrens-hospital-13021772
Scenes captured on film were described as an "unspeakable tragedy", while a doctor who was involved in the evacuation explained why the babies could not be moved.
A video taken in an abandoned Gaza hospital appears to show the decomposing bodies of babies who were left behind during evacuations.
The paediatric intensive care unit at al Nasr children's hospital was evacuated around 10 November as the Israeli military continued its ground invasion into northern Gaza and called for people to leave the area.
Follow live: UK launching surveillance flights over Gaza
During the week-long ceasefire, Mohammed Baalousha, a journalist with the Emirati TV channel Al Mashhad, entered the building where he found the bodies of several infants who had to be left in their beds while others escaped.
Warning: This article contains graphic content
Filmed around two weeks after the hospital was emptied, footage from the channel appeared to show at least three of five dead infants, according to Sky News' US partner site NBC.
Their bodies were decaying, including one that had insects appearing to crawl over its chest.
All were near catheters and ventilators and one infant appeared to still be connected to a machine that measures the oxygen levels in blood, with tanks of the gas nearby, NBC reported.
The advanced stages of decomposition of the infants are consistent with the timeframe between them being abandoned and the date the video was shot, two independent forensic pathologists told NBC.
The US broadcaster was unable to verify the status of the infants within this two-week period.
Dr Mustafa al Kahlot, director of the hospital, said staff concluded they could not safely evacuate five babies, several of whom were premature and "on oxygen machines" when Israeli tanks encircled the facility.
"Our evacuation from al Nasr hospital was very difficult and under fire," he told NBC. "Children cannot be carried by hand or evacuated without oxygen equipment."
In footage taken before the evacuation, Dr al Kahlot is seen in the same hospital room, warning that the building was the target of bombings, and that one child had already died due to a "lack of oxygen".
A similar situation was faced at al Shifa hospital - one of Gaza's largest - which came under intense bombardment by Israeli forces.
A group of 28 premature babies who were described as having "serious infections" were transported from Gaza to a hospital in Egypt, where they continued to receive treatment.
One nurse, who works with the charity Doctors Without Borders (MSF), was voluntarily working at al Nasr hospital at the time it was evacuated.
'We only took one baby'
An audio recording he took on 10 November described a "sniper shooting" making it impossible for anyone to leave or move from the building, NBC reported.
"Five patients remained in the intensive care unit on the oxygen machine," he is heard saying in the recording. "We left them. We only took one baby."
"We had to leave patients on the beds. We could not take any patient with us," the same nurse said in a separate video taken within this timeframe and seen by NBC.
Ashraf al Qudra, a spokesperson for the Gaza health ministry, said medical teams could not evacuate the five children by hand as there must be "health standards for transporting them".
He told NBC that he blamed the Israeli military for the infants' deaths.
The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) said it was not involved in any evacuation operations, despite receiving "several requests" for help from hospitals in northern Gaza.
"Footage circulating of deceased newborn babies represents an unspeakable tragedy, an unacceptable reality of how civilians - including babies and children - pay the price in conflict," the ICRC said in a statement.
In response to the claims, the Israel Defence Forces said "it did not operate inside al Nasr hospital," and that "these allegations are not only false but also a perverse exploitation of innocent lives, used as tools to spread dangerous misinformation".
"This is more evident when taking into account that the IDF assisted in moving newborns from the pediatric ward of the Shifa hospital to safety, as well as provide Israeli incubators in the process," the statement added.
https://news.sky.com/story/gaza-decomposing-bodies-of-babies-seen-in-footage-from-abandoned-childrens-hospital-13021772
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Naoružanog jevrejskog civila, heroja Juvala Dorona Kastlemana, koji je u petak u Jerusalimu ubio dvojicu palestinskih terorista koji su pucali na osobe na stanici gradskog prevoza (ubili troje i ranili petoro) odmah zatim je ubio izraelski vojnik iako je on odložio oružje, kleknuo, pokazao da nema eksploziv oko struka i obratio se vojnicima na hebrejskom rekavši da pogledaju njegovu ličnu kartu i uvere se da je Jevrejin. Dijabola iz vojske (naravno doseljenik ekstremista) po imenu Aviad Frija ga je ipak ubila pucnjem u stomak zaključivši da to nije dovoljno, a zatim su ga ostavili da iskrvari.
Netanjahu je najpre rekao "c'est la vie" i nastavio da podržava politiku deljenja dugih cevi civilima da bi se tek nekoliko dana kasnije pod pritiskom javnosti pošto su tvrdnje porodice heroja da je reč o likvidaciji potkrepljene i snimkom, ipak sastao s ocem ubijenog i obećao detaljnu istragu.
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Netanjahu je najpre rekao "c'est la vie" i nastavio da podržava politiku deljenja dugih cevi civilima da bi se tek nekoliko dana kasnije pod pritiskom javnosti pošto su tvrdnje porodice heroja da je reč o likvidaciji potkrepljene i snimkom, ipak sastao s ocem ubijenog i obećao detaljnu istragu.
gunmen and stops the attack before more people could be killed.
— Dimi Reider | dimireider.substack.com (@reider) December 3, 2023
9. Then, IDF soldiers arrive. Castleman realises he might be mistaken for one of the attackers. So he drops his handgun. He kneels on the road. He lifts his t-shirt to show he's got no vest. He asks them
12. Castleman bleeds to death.
— Dimi Reider | dimireider.substack.com (@reider) December 3, 2023
13. The settler-soldier who executed him gives smug interviews and gets much kudos from other far-right figures (they later erase the tweets.)
14. The army and police spend say they won't be investigating, before u-turning under pressure.
18. RIP, Doron Yuval Castleman. A hero. Right guy, right place, right time. Wrong government. Wrong kind of state.
— Dimi Reider | dimireider.substack.com (@reider) December 3, 2023
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- https://www.timesofisrael.com/three-killed-6-injured-in-terror-shooting-at-jerusalem-entrance-bus-stop/
https://www.timesofisrael.com/family-says-yuval-castleman-killed-after-taking-out-terrorists-was-executed/
https://www.timesofisrael.com/father-of-man-killed-after-taking-out-terrorists-decries-silence-from-officials/
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/netanyahu-speaks-to-father-of-yuval-castleman-about-whose-killing-he-said-thats-life/
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Israel ordered people out of swathes of the main southern city in the Gaza Strip as it pressed its ground campaign deep into the south, sending desperate residents fleeing even as it dropped bombs on areas where it told them to go https://t.co/FeJzaTlCen pic.twitter.com/F4GpwIBKlH
— Reuters (@Reuters) December 4, 2023
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:small_orange_diamond: U.S. STATE DEPT ON GAZA: U.S. STILL EXPECTS TO SEE CIVILIAN CASUALTIES AS A RESULT OF THIS CAMPAIGN, "THAT IS SADLY TRUE IN ALL WARS"
— *Walter Bloomberg (@DeItaone) December 4, 2023
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Today, @WHO received notification from the Israel Defense Forces that we should remove our supplies from our medical warehouse in southern Gaza within 24 hours, as ground operations will put it beyond use.
— Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus (@DrTedros) December 4, 2023
We appeal to #Israel to withdraw the order, and take every possible…
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NEW: Satellite imagery reviewed by HRW shows that orchards, greenhouses and farmland in northern Gaza have been razed since the beginning of Israel’s ground invasion, compounding concerns of dire food insecurity and loss of livelihood. 1/14 🧵:arrow_heading_down: pic.twitter.com/Qrvbklro5d
— Human Rights Watch (@hrw) December 4, 2023
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Generalni sekretar UN-a Antonio Gutereš u prošlu sredu: "Postoje brojni izveštaji o seksualnom nasilju tokom gnusnih terorističkih akata Hamasa 7. oktobra koji moraju biti energično istraženi i krivično gonjeni. Rodno zasnovano nasilje se mora osuditi, uvek i svuda."
Izraelski ambasador u UN Gilad Erdan juče na zatvorenoj projekciji (namenjenoj diplomatama) snimaka koji dokumentuju Hamasovo seksualno nasilje kritikovao UN što se tek skoro dva meseca posle masakra setio da o tome nešto prozbori.
Londonski Tajms je pre neki dan objavio svedočenje preživelog Izraelca sa festivala o grupnom silovanju jedne devojke, nakon čega je ubijena. Članak je iza pejvola, Tajms of Izrael ima preprič.
Izveštaj izraelske organizacije Lekari za ljudska prava s izjavama očevidaca, lekara i vojnika. Prema njemu, bilo je sistematskog seksualnog nasilja nad izraelskim devojkama i ženama.
https://www.phr.org.il/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/5771_Sexual_Violence_paper_Eng-final.pdf
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U pitanju je inače organizacija koja detaljno dokumentuje i kršenja ljudskih prava Palestinaca npr. u izraelskim zatvorima i na naslovnici svog sajta poziva na prekid vatre i prestanak napada na bolnice. Osnivačica i direktorka organizacije Ručama Marton eksplicitno podržava pokret BDS, koji poziva na bojkot, deinvestiranje i ekonomske sankcije prema Izraelu zbog kršenja prava Palestinaca.
Izraelski ambasador u UN Gilad Erdan juče na zatvorenoj projekciji (namenjenoj diplomatama) snimaka koji dokumentuju Hamasovo seksualno nasilje kritikovao UN što se tek skoro dva meseca posle masakra setio da o tome nešto prozbori.
Londonski Tajms je pre neki dan objavio svedočenje preživelog Izraelca sa festivala o grupnom silovanju jedne devojke, nakon čega je ubijena. Članak je iza pejvola, Tajms of Izrael ima preprič.
Izveštaj izraelske organizacije Lekari za ljudska prava s izjavama očevidaca, lekara i vojnika. Prema njemu, bilo je sistematskog seksualnog nasilja nad izraelskim devojkama i ženama.
https://www.phr.org.il/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/5771_Sexual_Violence_paper_Eng-final.pdf
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- Pronašli su mlade žene koje su bile silovane toliko brutalno da su im slomljene karlične kosti, žene kojima su teroristi pucali u vaginu i lice i kojima su odsečene grudi.
U pitanju je inače organizacija koja detaljno dokumentuje i kršenja ljudskih prava Palestinaca npr. u izraelskim zatvorima i na naslovnici svog sajta poziva na prekid vatre i prestanak napada na bolnice. Osnivačica i direktorka organizacije Ručama Marton eksplicitno podržava pokret BDS, koji poziva na bojkot, deinvestiranje i ekonomske sankcije prema Izraelu zbog kršenja prava Palestinaca.
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"USAID administrator Samantha Power arrived in Egypt alongside a delivery of 36,000 pounds of humanitarian aid for Gaza." That weighs less than 20 of the bombs US has supplied to Israel's genocidal regime, without a peep of protest from this opportunist "scholar of genocide" pic.twitter.com/Fh7TI5DpmM
— Mouin Rabbani (@MouinRabbani) December 5, 2023
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Footage posted to X (Twitter) showed the demolition of Gaza’s top courthouse, the Palace of Justice, published by Israeli media outlets who said the destruction was carried out by the Israel Defense Forces.
— Sky News (@SkyNews) December 5, 2023
Live updates: https://t.co/52XmF4tudY pic.twitter.com/SpTHKhqACA
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Zli stolar.
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Patients, injured from airstrikes arrive at hospitals in a near-constant stream. Khan Younis hospitals ran out of beds days ago. Now they’re running out of space on the floor - and the fighting is only set to intensify in the south of Gaza.
— Sky News (@SkyNews) December 5, 2023
More here: https://t.co/TXgoC0vtfp pic.twitter.com/t0UHnLgy8Y
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Applicants for naturalization in the eastern German state of Saxony-Anhalt are now required to declare their support for Israel's right to exist. pic.twitter.com/g93IdjcLOL
— DW Politics (@dw_politics) December 5, 2023
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Dobro je od starta do kraja ali skroz on topic kreće od pitanja iz publike na 35:00.
Citira Tijanića, prvi put čujem citat o paklu
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What stage of genocide is this? #Israel #Gaza
— Abier (@abierkhatib) December 7, 2023
h/t @khaledkraizim pic.twitter.com/OLe1fy0txP
Among those taken hostage today in Beit Lahia are:
— Ramy Abdu| رامي عبده (@RamAbdu) December 7, 2023
-Khalil Hashem Al-Kahlot, 65,
- Rafiq Ahmad Al-Kahlot, 60,
- Muhammad Ismail Al-Kahlot, 57
- Darwish Gharbawy, @unrwa School director, 48
- Ahmed Akram Lubad, 56, @UN staff
In addition to the children
-Muhammad Hamza… pic.twitter.com/ivbcgR8IsD
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This was his final tweet https://t.co/pWpgGEFPEk
— Krystal Ball (@krystalball) December 7, 2023
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Malo je se zaneo u pravednom gnevu. Genocid je kad ratne zatobljenike streljaš, kao što je bilo u Srebrenici.uh Del Cap wrote:What stage of genocide is this? #Israel #Gaza
— Abier (@abierkhatib) December 7, 2023
h/t @khaledkraizim pic.twitter.com/OLe1fy0txP
— Astraia Intel :flag_ua::flag_il: (@astraiaintel) December 7, 2023
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dobro kae disident prava si kmetina
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Ma da, proći laž da je skidanje ratnih zarobljenika u gaće genocid, kako da ne.
Samo se ti loži da razmišljaš svojom glavom, a numeš dvaput da klikneš na tvit da vidiš odakle je to došlo ii šta je tu pisalo.
Samo se ti loži da razmišljaš svojom glavom, a numeš dvaput da klikneš na tvit da vidiš odakle je to došlo ii šta je tu pisalo.
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"Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."
“Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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Vilmos Tehenészfiú wrote:Malo je se zaneo u pravednom gnevu. Genocid je kad ratne zatobljenike streljaš, kao što je bilo u Srebrenici.uh Del Cap wrote:What stage of genocide is this? #Israel #Gaza
— Abier (@abierkhatib) December 7, 2023
h/t @khaledkraizim pic.twitter.com/OLe1fy0txP— Astraia Intel :flag_ua::flag_il: (@astraiaintel) December 7, 2023
well, genocid u srebrenici je po presudama za konstitutivni element imao i proterivanje stanovništva (žena, dece, staraca), što je ukupno u kombinaciji sa streljanjem zarobljenih muškaraca grubo rečeno vojne dobi značilo uništenje zaštićene grupe ergo genocid. ne mora samo da se strelja.
drugo, za kršenje konvencije o genocidu zemlja može biti kriva (kao što je formalno bila srbija) ne zbog direktnog učešća nego i zbog nehapšenja optuženih, i što je važnije, zbog toga što nije učinila sve što je razumno mogla da bi sprečila genocid (jednim okom gledamo u ameriku).
naravno da zarobljavalnje muškaraca, svlačenje i maltretman itd nisu (sami po sebi) genocid ali mogu biti zločini protiv čovečnosti i običaja rata (ili običaja "specijalne vojne operacije" što bi rekao jedan drugi haški optuženik). izrael tu negde krstari oko granične linije genocida (x puta su odgovorni pojedinci jasno izneli genocidnu nameru, plus masovno ubijanje stanovništva i razni actus reus-i genocida na terenu). nije to baš posve jasno ali da postoji tzv tužilac međunarodnog krivičnog suda (postoji ali u ovom slučaju uspešno imitira zagorku dolovac) nekog bi glasa pustio od sebe.
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izrael tu negde krstari oko granične linije genocida
Mozda, ali krstarecim raketama. Ovo sto Izrael radi je genocid 1/1, utoliko odvratniji zbog cinizma i laznog formalizma koji tom prilikom ispoljavaju.
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sad cekamo da cujemo sta ce henri da kaze pa da se razilazimo
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THE space age is upon us. Rockets are leaving our globe at
speeds unheard of only a few years ago, to orbit earth, moon, and
sun. People have visited the moon, we have sent space probes to
all but one of the planets, and words like "orbit" and "satellite" are
picked up by children in the nursery.
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Dobro je, na kraju si ipak zaključio da je u pitanju kršenje običaja rata, kao što je uostalom i bilo koje maltretiranje ratnih zarobljenika.Del Cap wrote:Vilmos Tehenészfiú wrote:
Malo je se zaneo u pravednom gnevu. Genocid je kad ratne zatobljenike streljaš, kao što je bilo u Srebrenici.— Astraia Intel :flag_ua::flag_il: (@astraiaintel) December 7, 2023
well, genocid u srebrenici je po presudama za konstitutivni element imao i proterivanje stanovništva (žena, dece, staraca), što je ukupno u kombinaciji sa streljanjem zarobljenih muškaraca grubo rečeno vojne dobi značilo uništenje zaštićene grupe ergo genocid. ne mora samo da se strelja.
drugo, za kršenje konvencije o genocidu zemlja može biti kriva (kao što je formalno bila srbija) ne zbog direktnog učešća nego i zbog nehapšenja optuženih, i što je važnije, zbog toga što nije učinila sve što je razumno mogla da bi sprečila genocid (jednim okom gledamo u ameriku).
naravno da zarobljavalnje muškaraca, svlačenje i maltretman itd nisu (sami po sebi) genocid ali mogu biti zločini protiv čovečnosti i običaja rata (ili običaja "specijalne vojne operacije" što bi rekao jedan drugi haški optuženik). izrael tu negde krstari oko granične linije genocida (x puta su odgovorni pojedinci jasno izneli genocidnu nameru, plus masovno ubijanje stanovništva i razni actus reus-i genocida na terenu). nije to baš posve jasno ali da postoji tzv tužilac međunarodnog krivičnog suda (postoji ali u ovom slučaju uspešno imitira zagorku dolovac) nekog bi glasa pustio od sebe.
Srbija nije nikada osudjena za genocid u Srebrenici jer u streljanju nisu učestvovali vojnici SRJ. Proterivanje stanovništva uz masovnu egzekuciju jeste genocid, ali bez masovne egzekucije nema genocida, to je “samo” etničko čiščenje. Zato je samo Srebrenica presudom proglašena za genocid. Srbija jeste pomagala etničko čišćenje u ratu u Bosni. Ako treba primer iz II svetskog rata da bude jasnije, imamo i to: Slovenci su iz Štajerske proterani u Srbiju, ali nisu ubijani. Srbi iz Hrvatske su i proterivani i masovno ubijani. Prvo je etničko čišćenje, a drugo je genocid.
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"Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."
“Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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Filipenko wrote:izrael tu negde krstari oko granične linije genocida
Mozda, ali krstarecim raketama. Ovo sto Izrael radi je genocid 1/1, utoliko odvratniji zbog cinizma i laznog formalizma koji tom prilikom ispoljavaju.
Цинизам, ционизам, краљево, ваљево...
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cousin for roasting the rakija
И кажем себи у сну, еј бре коњу па ти ни немаш озвучење, имаш оне две кутијице око монитора, видећеш кад се пробудиш...
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