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by rumbeando Fri Dec 01, 2023 11:59 amIsrael obtained Hamas’s battle plan for Al Aqsa Flood more than a year beforehand "but experts determined that an attack of that scale and ambition was beyond Hamas’s capabilities."https://t.co/4wr87YzyTJ pic.twitter.com/eocodTL93s
— Nathan Thrall (@NathanThrall) December 1, 2023
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Navodno je danas gađana Rafa (mesto kod prelaza s Egiptom, jedinog otvorenog za pomoć) i ubijeno 10 ljudi.
U novim lecima izraelska vojska poziva Palestince da napuste Han Junis i idu upravo u tu danas gađanu Rafu.
Izraelska vojska je objavila i link na interaktivnu mapu i po njima Palestinci treba da u realnom vremenu prate koja područja su trenutno ratne zone i da se evakuišu iz njih
U novim lecima izraelska vojska poziva Palestince da napuste Han Junis i idu upravo u tu danas gađanu Rafu.
Izraelska vojska je objavila i link na interaktivnu mapu i po njima Palestinci treba da u realnom vremenu prate koja područja su trenutno ratne zone i da se evakuišu iz njih
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Portparol Unicefa danas se javio iz bolnice u Gazi.
Ceasefire over in #Gaza. Attacks v near this hospital. Bombing consistent. Has humanity given up on the children of Gaza?!
— James Elder (@1james_elder) December 1, 2023pic.twitter.com/dsyvQeBEWx
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Blinken najavio Netanjahuu zabranu izdavanja viza nasilnim doseljenicima za Zapadne obale možda već sledeće nedelje. Navodno spisak neće biti objavljen kako bi i oni koji nisu na njemu pazili šta rade.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/us-tells-israel-it-will-announce-visa-ban-on-violent-settlers-in-coming-weeks-officials/US Secretary of State Antony Blinken notified Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu during meetings yesterday that the Biden administration is preparing to announce a series of visa bans against Israeli settlers involved in attacks on Palestinians in the West Bank, an Israeli official tells The Times of Israel. A US official confirmed the plan to AFP.
The announcement will likely only include the number of settlers being banned from the US, rather than their names, the Israeli official says, explaining that the US hopes that the anonymity will serve as a deterrent against those considering targeting Palestinians who won’t know whether they’ve been black-listed or not.
The visa ban could be imposed as early as next week, the Israeli official says.
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"We will come to you, God willing, in a roaring flood. We will come to you with endless rockets, we will come to you in a limitless flood of soldiers, we will come to you with millions of our people, like the repeating tide," he [Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar] said during his Dec. 14 [2022 Gaza rally] address.
Hamas leader Sinwar plotted Israel's most deadly day in plain sight | Reuters
— Candidly Tiff (@tify330) December 1, 2023
“Last year, Yahya Sinwar told a rally in Gaza that Hamas would deploy fighters and rockets in a fierce strike on Israel” https://t.co/bwAPdkMh0D
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https://forbes.n1info.ba/novac/nerealizirani-potencijal-palestinskih-prirodnih-resursa-okupirana-gaza-lezi-na-17-milijardi-barela-nafte/Studija Konferencije Ujedinjenih naroda za trgovinu i razvoj (UNCTAD) otkriva da se rezerve prirodnog gasa u slivu Levanta kreće u rasponu od 122 triliona kubnih stopa, dok se nafta koja se može iskoristiti procjenjuje na 1,7 milijardi barela. Ove rezerve nude priliku za distribuciju i podjelu oko 524 milijarde dolara. Resursi nafte i prirodnog gasa na okupiranoj palestinskoj teritoriji mogli bi donijeti stotine milijardi dolara za razvoj palestinskih zajednica i učiniti ovu naciju, koja je pod okupacijom, jednom od prosperitetnijih u svijetu. (...)
Izraelska vojna okupacija palestinskih teritorija od 1967. i blokada pojasa Gaze od 2007. spriječile su palestinski narod da izvrši bilo kakvu kontrolu nad vlastitim resursima fosilnih goriva, uskraćujući im prijeko potrebne fiskalne i izvozne prihode. Ekonomski troškovi naneseni palestinskom narodu pod okupacijom su dobro dokumentovani: stroga ograničenja kretanja ljudi i robe; oduzimanje i uništavanje imovine; gubitak zemlje, vode i drugih prirodnih resursa; fragmentirano domaće tržište i odvojenost od susjednih i međunarodnih tržišta.
Međutim, do sada je palestinskom narodu bilo zabranjeno da eksploatiše rezerve nafte i plina u vlastitoj zemlji i vodi kako bi zadovoljio svoje energetske potrebe i ostvario fiskalne i izvozne prihode. To povećava i oportunitetne troškove i ukupne troškove koje palestinski narod snosi kao rezultat okupacije, navodi se u studiji.
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Izrael je obavestio Egipat, Jordan, UAE, Saudijsku Arabiju i Tursku da želi da uspostavi tampon zonu na palestinskoj strani granice Gaze radi sprečavanja budućih napada, javlja Rojters.
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- Israel informs Arab states it wants buffer zone in post-war Gaza
Israel has informed several Arab states that it wants to carve out a buffer zone on the Palestinian side of Gaza's border to prevent future attacks as part of proposals for the enclave after war ends, Egyptian and regional sources said.
According to three regional sources, Israel related its plans to its neighbours Egypt and Jordan, along with the United Arab Emirates, which normalised ties with Israel in 2020.
They also said that Saudi Arabia, which does not have ties with Israel and which halted a U.S.-mediated normalisation process after the Gaza war flared on Oct. 7, had been informed. The sources did not say how the information reached Riyadh, which officially does not have direct communication channels with Israel. Non-Arab Turkey was also told, the sources said.
The initiative does not indicate an imminent end to Israel's offensive - which resumed on Friday after a seven-day truce - but it shows Israel is reaching out beyond established Arab mediators, such as Egypt or Qatar, as it seeks to shape a post-war Gaza.
No Arab states have shown any willingness to police or administer Gaza in future and most have roundly condemned Israel's offensive that has killed more than 15,000 people and levelled swathes of Gaza's urban areas. Hamas killed 1,200 people in its Oct. 7 raid and took more than 200 hostages.
"Israel wants this buffer zone between Gaza and Israel from the north to the south to prevent any Hamas or other militants from infiltrating or attacking Israel," said a senior regional security official, one of the three regional sources who asked not to be identified by nationality.
The Egyptian, Saudi, Qatari and Turkish governments did not immediately respond to requests for comment. Jordanian officials could not immediately be reached for comment.
A UAE official did not respond directly when asked if Abu Dhabi had been told about the buffer zone, but said: "The UAE will support any future post-war arrangements agreed upon by all the concerned parties" to achieve stability and a Palestinian state.
Asked about plans for a buffer zone, Ophir Falk, foreign policy adviser to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, told Reuters: "The plan is more detailed than that. It's based on a three-tier process for the day after Hamas."
Outlining the Israeli government's position, he said the three tiers involved destroying Hamas, demilitarising Gaza and de-radicalising the enclave.
"A buffer zone may be part of the demilitarisation process," he said. He declined to offer details when asked whether those plans had been raised with international partners, including
Arab states.
Arab states have dismissed as impossible Israel's goal of wiping out Hamas, saying it was more than simply a militant force that could be defeated.
SQUEEZING PALESTINIANS
Israel has suggested in the past it was considering a buffer zone inside Gaza, but the sources said it was now presenting them to Arab states as part of its future security plans for Gaza. Israeli troops withdrew from the enclave in 2005.
A U.S. official, who declined to be identified, said Israel had "floated" the buffer zone idea without saying to whom. But the official also repeated Washington's opposition to any plan that reduced the size of Palestinian territory.
Jordan, Egypt and other Arab states have voiced fears that Israel wants to squeeze Palestinians out of Gaza, repeating the dispossession of land Palestinians suffered when Israel was created in 1948. The Israeli government denies any such aim.
A senior Israeli security source said the buffer zone idea was "being examined", adding: "It is not clear at the moment how deep this will be and whether it could be 1 km or 2 km or hundreds of metres (inside Gaza)."
Any encroachment into Gaza, which is about 40 km (25 miles) long and between about 5 km (3 miles) and 12 km (7.5 miles) wide, would cram its 2.3 million people into an even smaller area.
In Washington, an Israeli official said the Israeli defense establishment was talking about "some kind of security buffer on the Gaza side of the border so that Hamas cannot gather military capabilities close to the border and surprise Israel again."
"It is a security measure, not a political one," the official said on condition of anonymity. "We do not intend to remain on the Gaza side of the border."
Till now, Egypt, the first Arab state to sign a peace deal with Israel, and Qatar, which does not have formal ties but keeps communication channels open, have been at the centre of mediation talks with Israel that have focused on exchanging hostages held by Hamas for Palestinians in Israeli jails.
SHIFTING FOCUS
Two Egyptian security sources said Israel had raised the idea in mediation talks with Egypt and Qatar of disarming northern Gaza and setting up a buffer zone in north Gaza with international supervision.
The sources said several Arab states opposed this. While Arab states might not oppose a security barrier between the two sides, there was disagreement over where it was located, they added.
The Egyptian sources said Israel had said in a meeting in Cairo in November that the Hamas leaders should be tried internationally in return for a full ceasefire. Mediators said the issue should be postponed until after the war to avoid derailing talks about hostage releases, the sources said.
A source in the Israeli prime minister's office declined to address the reports, adding: "Netanyahu's War Cabinet has defined the war missions: destroy Hamas and bring all the hostages back home, and we will continue until we complete our missions."
One of the Egyptian sources said Israel, in its discussions with Egypt and Qatar, had shifted from a focus on retaliation earlier in the crisis towards showing a greater willingness to "rethink its demands as mediation continued."
The regional sources compared the Gaza buffer zone plan to the "security zone" Israel once had in south Lebanon. Israel evacuated that zone, which was about 15 km (10 miles) deep, in 2000 after years of fighting and attacks by Lebanon's Hezbollah.
They also said Israel's plan for post-war Gaza included deporting leaders of Hamas, an action that would also mirror the Israeli campaign in Lebanon in the 1980s when it drove out the leadership of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), which had launched attacks from Lebanon into Israel.
"Israel is ready to pay a costly price to expel and evict Hamas completely from Gaza to other countries in the region similar to what it did in Lebanon, but it's not the same. Getting rid of Hamas is difficult and not certain," said another of the regional officials familiar with the discussions.
A senior Israeli official said Israel did not consider Hamas to be like the PLO nor believe that it would act like the PLO.
Mohammad Dahlan, Gaza's former security chief from the Palestinian Fatah faction which was ejected from the enclave when Hamas took control in 2007, said Israel's buffer zone plan was unrealistic and would not protect Israeli forces.
"The buffer zone could make (Prime Minister Benjamin) Netanyahu's forces a target also in the zone," he said.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-informs-arab-states-it-wants-buffer-zone-post-war-gaza-sources-2023-12-01/
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https://www.newsmax.com/world/globaltalk/arab-leaders-israel-hamas/2023/12/02/id/1144515/Arab leaders are privately siding with Israel against Hamas, even if some are publicly condemning the operation in Gaza as endangering innocent civilians who refuse to leave or are being forced to stay, Haaretz reported this week.
Arab leaders are ultimately viewing Hamas as a "dangerous domestic enemy" on their lands, so they are urging Israel to keep fighting in Gaza after the operation to return hostages taken by Hamas on Oct. 7, according to the report.
"Publicly, some of them [like Egypt and Jordan] are falling in line with public opinion in their countries and condemning the civilian deaths caused by Israel's military response," Haaretz's Amos Harrel wrote in his analysis of the expiring cease-fire Thursday.
"But behind the scenes, almost every leader in the region, including in most of the Gulf states, is urging Israel to end the war only after Hamas is defeated, since they view the organization as a dangerous domestic enemy."
Originalni Harecov članak je iza pejvola, ali ima skrinšot tog dela u ovom tvitu.
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Posle slučaja u bolnici kad je sklanjanjem mikrofona cenzurisan sagovornik koji je kritikovao Hamas, Al Džazira još jednom cenzuriše sagovornika, ovog puta jer kritikuje Katar i Tursku zbog podrške Hamasu.
— GlobalNews (@YvesUitGent) December 2, 2023
Al Jazeera reporter asked a resident of #Gaza about the massacres but as soon as the man started criticising Qatar & Turkey, the reporter rudely interrupted him and prevents him from talking. pic.twitter.com/822FPx8oHF
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Today, in our dystopia.
— Jalal #CeasefireNow (@JalalAK_jojo) December 2, 2023
A drone arrives at the porch of a Palestinian family in a West Bank village with a recorded message: "If you think about doing anything, we will reach you and will kill you."
I miss only seeing this shit in movies, not real life.pic.twitter.com/22j9kGaRTN
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1,8% anketiranih izraelskih Jevreja smatra da izraelska vojska previše raspamećuje Gazu, 36,6% da to radi adekvatno, a 57,5% da je ne raspamećuje dovoljno, prenosi Tajm.
“57.5% of Israeli Jews said that they believed the IDF was using too little firepower in Gaza, 36.6% said the IDF was using an appropriate amount of firepower, while just 1.8% said they believed the IDF was using too much fire power” https://t.co/bXxWvncAxY
— Mouin Rabbani (@MouinRabbani) December 2, 2023
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https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/netanyahu-pa-and-hamas-both-reject-israels-existence-i-wont-let-pa-govern-gaza/Netanyahu: PA and Hamas both reject Israel’s existence; I won’t let PA govern Gaza
Answering a few final questions at his press conference, Prime Minister Netanyahu unleashes a devastating critique of the Palestinian Authority and the process that led to its establishment.
He is asked about the PA’s potential role in a post-war Gaza, as sought by the US and opposed by him.
The Palestinian Authority “pays murderers…. They educate their children to hate Israel and, to my sorrow, to murder Jews, and ultimately for the disappearance of the State of Israel,” he says.
He says PA President Mahmoud “Abbas still hasn’t apologized” for the October 7 onslaught. (He apparently meant to say that Abbas hasn’t condemned the assault.) And he says that senior PA official Jibril Rajoub has said “the same should be done in Judea and Samaria from Judea and Samaria.”
“I’m not prepared to delude myself and say that this defective thing, established under the Oslo Accords in a terrible mistake,” should be allowed to govern Gaza. “It was a terrible mistake to return the most hostile thing in the Arab world and the Palestinian world into the center of the Land of Israel, the heart of the land,” he says.
Apparently referring to Fatah and Hamas, he says it then “split into two, but the ideology, to my sorrow, that rejects the existence of Israel is common to both those factions. So I won’t repeat the mistake and put that entity into Gaza, because we’ll get the same thing.”
He adds: “We would be putting the same element — utterly unreformed, utterly unchanged — into Gaza, and that’s what even the best of our friends suggest. I think differently. I oppose it. I think we need to build something else. Of course, [there must be] Israeli security control in the whole area… to ensure no rise of a terror entity for years to come. And the internal governance must undergo a totally different process.
“The PA has failed in this — it doesn’t fight terror, it finances terror; it doesn’t educate for peace, it educates for the disappearance of the State of Israel. That is not the group that should enter now,” he says.
Asked how he will keep Palestinian civilians safe in the now hugely crowded south of the Gaza Strip, he says Israel is coordinating with the US and that Israel “wants to avoid harm to the civilian populace.”
When it is put to him that some critics say he strengthened Hamas over the years, he responds: “It’s a lie.” Under his leadership, he says, Hamas was hit in four rounds of conflict. “We killed thousands of terrorists.”
At the same time, his and other governments rightly sought to prevent a humanitarian collapse in Gaza. That’s why money was allowed to flow into Gaza.
“We have to finish the job” against Hamas, he says.
Previously, “we didn’t have either the internal national consensus or the international consensus” to destroy Hamas. Now, the internal support is very strong, he says, and he is working to preserve international support. “Now, we will finish the job.”
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And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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Njujork tajms objavio grafički prikaz statistike palestinskih zatvorenika koje je Izrael oslobodio u sklopu razmene, kažu da većina nije osuđena.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/01/world/middleeast/palestinian-prisoners-released-gaza.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/01/world/middleeast/palestinian-prisoners-released-gaza.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur
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“Uskut- be quiet!”
— Israel ישראל :flag_il: (@Israel) December 2, 2023
9 year old Emily who was taken hostage by Hamas terrorists is now home in Israel with family.
We cannot even imagine the horror she endured, but right now all we can do is focus on her recovery.
Listen to Tom, Emily’s father, and Natalie, her sister,… pic.twitter.com/MghZvPmv57
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Francuski predsednik Makron rekao je da je zatiranje Hamasa nerealan cilj jer bi u tom slučaju rat trajao 10 godina i najavio rad na novoj pauzi radi oslobađanja talaca i trajnom prekidu vatre.
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Ne razumem. Izraelci hoće da zatru Hamas, a onda će ponovo da ga prave?
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Све док једни друге хоће да затру, то се само прави.
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Dobar pregled unutrašnje dinamike u Izraelu:
Opinion: How the far right grabbed power in Israel, and what it means in this time of war https://t.co/lGRmfi4KUh
— The Globe and Mail (@globeandmail) December 2, 2023
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kirbi se divi stvarima koje su actus reus genocida
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Today, Pentagon spokesman John Kirby justified Israel's murder of civilians by saying that its military tells Palestinians to go to desert before bombing their homes.
— Andre Damon (WSWS) (@Andre__Damon) December 3, 2023
In other words, the position of the US is: "Genocide is OK, as long as its accompanied by ethnic cleansing." pic.twitter.com/77eiGbVypH
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“We are being as surgical as we can be”. https://t.co/0eidtNIbOW pic.twitter.com/9xXGLOv6az
— Thomas Fazi (@battleforeurope) December 3, 2023
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“We are being as surgical as we can be”
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