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    Post by Notxor Tue May 23, 2023 6:00 am

    I keš i pasoš

    Support Ukraine

    We invite citizens from the Middle East and North Africa to participate in a voluntary program to assist Ukraine on a competitive basis.

    Requirements:
    Military specialists with good health and psychological stability are required to participate in the Ukrainian counteroffensive. Participants must understand all risks and sign a waiver of claims.

    Conditions:
    - High contract payment
    - After the contract expires and compliance with requirements is verified, accelerated citizenship in the UK or EU is guaranteed.

    Please, contact: eu.citizenship.programme@gmail.com (Sofya Romanyuk)


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    Post by Vilmos Tehenészfiú Tue May 23, 2023 7:13 am

    Rusi nude accelerated citizenship u Rusiji, a Ukrajinci u VB ili EU. Kome se carstvu privoleti?


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue May 23, 2023 7:23 am

    gmail?
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue May 23, 2023 7:39 am

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    Post by Notxor Tue May 23, 2023 8:23 am

    Mór Thököly wrote:gmail?

    Jeste čudno - koristi se gmail, ali retko. Evo ga ceo oglas.

    https://www.adzuna.co.uk/jobs/details/4095390986

    I dugo je tu - čudi me da ga nisu skinuli jer liči na prevaru.

    src: reddit
    https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/13k717b/ua_pov_citizens_from_north_africa_and_the_middle/


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    Post by rumbeando Tue May 23, 2023 8:45 am

    Na archive.org prvi put je arhiviran 17.5.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20230000000000*/https://www.adzuna.co.uk/jobs/details/4095390986

    Tog dana se pojavio i na Tviteru.
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    Post by Del Cap Tue May 23, 2023 10:40 am

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/05/29/two-weeks-at-the-front-in-ukraine


    ...
    Battered members of the 28th Brigade were among the first Ukrainian troops to enter Kherson. Crowds greeted them there as heroes. Before they could recover, they were sent three hundred miles northeast, to the outskirts of Bakhmut, a besieged city that was becoming the scene of the most ferocious violence of the war.

    Syava’s battalion, which numbered about six hundred men, was posted on the edge of a village south of Bakhmut. The village was controlled by the Wagner Group, a Russian paramilitary organization notorious for committing atrocities in Africa and the Middle East. For the war in Ukraine, Wagner recruited thousands of inmates from Russian prisons by offering them pardons in exchange for combat tours. The onslaught of expendable convicts proved too much for the Ukrainians, who were still reeling from Kherson and had not yet replenished their ranks and matériel. The commander of the battalion, a thirty-nine-year-old lieutenant colonel named Pavlo, said of the Wagner fighters, “They were like zombies. They used the prisoners like a wall of meat. It didn’t matter how many we killed—they kept coming.”

    Within weeks, the battalion faced annihilation: entire platoons had been wiped out in close-contact firefights, and some seventy men had been encircled and massacred. The dwindling survivors, one officer told me, “became useless because they were so tired.” In January, what was left of the battalion retreated from the village and established defensive positions in the tree lines and open farmland a mile to the west. “Wagner kicked our asses,” the officer said.

    The Russian mercenaries subsequently left for Bakhmut, to shore up other forces there, and the conventional troops who replaced them were far less numerous and suicidal. By the time I joined the battalion, about two months had passed since it had lost the battle for the village, and during the interim neither side had attempted a major operation against the other. It was all the Ukrainians could do to maintain the stalemate. Pavlo estimated that, owing to the casualties his unit had sustained, eighty per cent of his men were new draftees. “They’re civilians with no experience,” he said. “If they give me ten, I’m lucky when three of them can fight.”
    ...

    “I only trust Bison,” Odesa said. “If the new recruits run away, it will mean immediate death for us.” He’d lost nearly all his closest friends in Kherson. Taking out his phone, he swiped through a series of photographs: “Killed . . . killed . . . killed . . . killed . . . killed . . . wounded. . . . Now I have to get used to different people. It’s like starting over.”

    Because the high attrition rate had disproportionately affected the bravest and most aggressive soldiers—a phenomenon that one officer called “reverse natural selection”—seasoned infantrymen like Odesa and Bison were extremely valuable and extremely fatigued. After Kherson, Odesa had gone awol. “I was in a bad place psychologically,” he said. “I needed a break.” After two months of resting and recuperating at home, he came back. His return was prompted not by a fear of being punished—what were they going to do, put him in the trenches?—but by a sense of loyalty to his dead friends. “I felt guilty,” he said. “I realized that my place was here.”
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    During previous reporting trips to Ukraine, I had encountered the Russian military almost exclusively as a remote, invisible source of bombs that fell from the sky. It was eerie to look across such a short gap at an actual Russian position—and to know that an actual Russian might be looking back. Artem shared my unease. “I shouldn’t be here,” he said. “I’m not a soldier.”

    He was a forty-two-year-old father of three who managed a grain elevator in a small farming community in central Ukraine. Men who have three children are legally exempt from conscription but, in December, Artem was still in the process of adopting one of his daughters when he was summoned by his local draft board. A physician, citing a skull fracture that Artem had once suffered during an ice-skating accident, deemed him medically unfit to serve; the board dispatched him to a military training center anyway. His training lasted a month and consisted of tutorials and marching drills—“theoretical stuff, nothing practical.” He shot a total of thirty rounds during two trips to a firing range. From the training center, Artem was assigned to the 28th Brigade, and a day after joining Pavlo’s infantry battalion he was on the Zero Line.

    “The first couple of weeks, I was so fucking scared,” he said. “I ran whenever there was shooting.” Gunshots and explosions gave him migraines, which exacerbated his anxiety. He’d been there for six weeks and had not so much mastered his fear as accepted the illogic of running: there was nowhere to escape to. All the same, he was so timid by nature that it was difficult to imagine him repulsing a Russian attack. “I hate weapons and violence,” he said with wide-eyed incredulity, as if he still could not believe where he was. “I’m just trying to stay alive until I can get home.”

    A few minutes after I met Artem, a rocket-propelled grenade, or R.P.G., screamed across the sunflower field and detonated in the ravine. Machine-gun fire clattered, and bullets whacked the trees. I ducked behind a barricade of sandbags, where the ranking sergeant—another veteran, like Bison and Odesa—was shouting at his subordinates.

    “All good?”
    ...
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    Post by Notxor Wed May 24, 2023 1:20 pm

    - Let's prepare for an uprising in Belarus, because it will happen," Gen. Waldemar Skrzypczak said on the "Guest of Events" program. - It is necessary to be ready to support the troops that will carry out the operation against Lukashenko," he added. The military officer also commented on the conflict between the Minister of National Defense and the generals.

    General Waldemar Skrzypczak, former commander of the Land Forces, spoke on Polsat News' "Guest of Events" program about recent events in the Belgorod region, where Russian mercenaries fighting on the side of Ukraine carried out a diversionary action.

    - These are the actions of Russians who are opponents of Putin's regime and Putin himself. Their task is to destabilize the Russian administration in the region," he said.

    - This shows that not all Russians agree with the Putin regime's policies. The time is coming for the Russian people, at least in part, to declare obedience to Putin," he added.

    - I wouldn't link this to this expected Ukrainian counteroffensive, but I see these actions as such a signal that I hope will spread more widely, he said.

    - If the Ukrainian counteroffensive is successful, those armed Belarusians who are part of the Ukrainian army's military potential will not lay down their arms, he assessed.

    - They will go to Belarus. I hope this will trigger an uprising in Belarus, this is what Lukashenko is afraid of," he said.

    - Let's prepare for an uprising in Belarus, because it will happen. The point is that we should not sleep through this moment," he stressed.

    - It is necessary to be ready to support those troops who will carry out the operation against Lukashenko. We have reasons to help them, just as we help the Ukrainians," he said.
    According to him, "the Belarusian people will support them and go against Lukashenko with enthusiasm.

    - He no longer has the military potential to prevent such an uprising. Russia will not help him much, because it will have its own problems," he added.

    According to the general, "if this uprising happens there will certainly be an exodus of Belarusians toward Poland, and you have to be ready for it."


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    Post by Јанош Винету Wed May 24, 2023 2:30 pm

    Све је у праву човек.

    Лукашенко је видно болестан и пренос власти у Белорусији је под питањем кад он одапне.
    Неће бити тако лако као крађа прошлих избора.
    То може изазвати нове протесте, нову туру репресије и протеривања.
    Протерани ће завршити у Пољској. Треба бити спреман на то.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Wed May 24, 2023 2:37 pm

    Belorusija je 1 velika tajna.
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    Post by kondo Wed May 24, 2023 6:41 pm

    Јанош Винету wrote:
    Протерани ће завршити у Пољској. Треба бити спреман на то.


    misliš da će ih gromopucatelno dočekati kao ukr izb


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    Дакле, волео бих да се ЈСД Партизан угаси, али не и да сви (или било који) гробар умре.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Wed May 24, 2023 6:43 pm

    Ma niko ne zna kako ce, kada ce i ako ce to uopste izgledati.
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    Post by kondo Wed May 24, 2023 6:45 pm

    više me zanima da li će prvo da bude topli zec pa onda humanitarni paketić


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    Дакле, волео бих да се ЈСД Партизан угаси, али не и да сви (или било који) гробар умре.
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    Post by Notxor Wed May 24, 2023 6:48 pm

    Kakav paketić? Regrutacija pa u rat za slobodnu Belorusiju!


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    Post by kondo Wed May 24, 2023 6:50 pm

    kako kakav pa deja vu paketić

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    Post by Јанош Винету Wed May 24, 2023 11:32 pm

    kondo wrote:
    Јанош Винету wrote:
    Протерани ће завршити у Пољској. Треба бити спреман на то.


    misliš da će ih gromopucatelno dočekati kao ukr izb

    Наравно, водаће их по телевизијама и дочекивати са највећим државним почастима, зависно од политичког положаја. Цихановскаја је одавно у Пољској.


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    Post by Notxor Thu May 25, 2023 1:15 am

    NY Times? Lažu za Vučića, lažu za Kremlj...

    Ukrainians Were Likely Behind Kremlin Drone Attack, U.S. Officials Say
    American spy agencies do not know exactly who carried out the attack this month, but suggest it was part of a series of covert operations orchestrated by Ukraine’s security services.

    By Julian E. Barnes, Adam Entous, Eric Schmitt, Anton Troianovski

    U.S. officials said the drone attack on the Kremlin earlier this month was likely orchestrated by one of Ukraine’s special military or intelligence units, the latest in a series of covert actions against Russian targets that have unnerved the Biden administration.

    U.S. intelligence agencies do not know which unit carried out the attack and it was unclear whether President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine or his top officials were aware of the operation, though some officials believe Mr. Zelensky was not.

    The agencies reached their preliminary assessment in part through intercepted communications in which Russian officials blamed Ukraine and other communications in which Ukrainian officials said they believed their country was responsible for the attack, in which two drones were flown on May 3 toward the Kremlin, causing little damage.

    U.S. officials say their level of confidence that the Ukrainian government directly authorized the Kremlin drone attack is “low” but that is because intelligence agencies do not yet have specific evidence identifying which government officials, Ukrainian units or operatives were involved.

    The attack appeared to be part of a series of operations that have made officials in the United States — Ukraine’s biggest supplier of military equipment — uncomfortable. The Biden administration is concerned about the risk that Russia will blame U.S. officials and retaliate by expanding the war beyond Ukraine.

    American spy agencies see an emerging picture of a loose confederation of Ukrainian units able to conduct limited operations inside and outside Russia, either by using their own personnel or partners working under their direction. Some of these missions could have been conducted with little, if any, oversight from Mr. Zelensky, officials said.

    In addition to the drone attack, U.S. officials say they believe the Ukrainians were responsible for the assassination of the daughter of a prominent Russian nationalist, the killing of a pro-Russian blogger and a number of attacks in Russian towns near the border with Ukraine, the most recent of which occurred Monday.

    American officials similarly view the attack on the Nord Stream pipelines — which carried natural gas from Russia to Europe — as the work of pro-Ukrainian operatives whose ties to the Ukrainian government have yet to be determined.

    The officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive intelligence, described their assessment in broad terms, but would not share the details of the intercepts. Representatives for the White House, the Central Intelligence Agency and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence declined to comment.

    Though the drone attack caused little damage, it punctured the sense of security and invincibility the Kremlin has sought to portray within Moscow despite the chaos it has created with its war in Ukraine.

    U.S. intelligence agencies’ ability to determine responsibility for attacks against Russian targets has been complicated by the way Ukraine has organized its security services, which have secretive, overlapping and sometimes competing responsibilities.

    For example, the Security Service of Ukraine, the Main Directorate of Intelligence and the Ukrainian military each field their own special forces units.

    These operate with varying levels of professionalism and oversight, and they sometimes compete for resources and attention within the Ukrainian system. U.S. officials are not sure how closely, if at all, these units coordinate their activities with each other, either by design — as part of a system of compartmentalization to prevent Russian moles from learning about their operations — or because of mistrust among the services, or both.

    Some U.S. officials initially considered the possibility that the Kremlin drone attack might have been carried out by the Russian government in a “false flag” operation designed to provide Moscow with a pretext to escalate the conflict.

    But after the attack, the United States intercepted communications in which Russian officials were overheard discussing the incident and the findings of Moscow’s preliminary investigation into what took place. In those internal discussions, Russian officials seemed surprised by the drone intrusion and blamed Ukraine. U.S. officials said this intelligence helped convince them that the attack was not carried out by the Russians.

    “Watching how the Kremlin has responded suggests to me this was an embarrassment and surprise for them, and not a deliberate false flag,” said Dara Massicot, a military analyst at RAND, referring to the drone attack. “The strikes also undermine the perceptions of Moscow’s air space surveillance capabilities and that the Kremlin is secure — these are important perceptions they would like to maintain.”

    The United States also intercepted Ukrainian conversations in which officials said they believed that their country was responsible for the attack. But these officials appeared to have no knowledge of who within the Ukrainian system might have planned or carried it out.

    U.S. officials say that some Ukrainian covert operatives work largely independently and without direct supervision from Mr. Zelensky or his top deputies. The officials say they do not believe Mr. Zelensky signs off on all covert operations, and the extent to which he is aware of them in advance is unclear.

    Instead, American officials said they suspect that Mr. Zelensky and his top aides have set the broad parameters of the covert campaign, leaving decisions about who and what to target to the security services and their operatives. In doing so, Mr. Zelensky and his top aides can deny knowing about them.

    U.S. officials have repeatedly cautioned Ukraine against conducting high-profile attacks inside Russia, citing the risk of escalation. They have also generally been dismissive of the effectiveness of the attacks, which they see as a distraction from the most important fight: Kyiv’s campaign against Russian forces in southern and eastern Ukraine.

    U.S. officials have also publicly denied enabling or encouraging the cross-border attacks and say they do not support the use of American equipment in such operations. The Biden administration does not want Moscow to think that the United States is complicit in the attacks.

    The administration’s fears that Russia will use nuclear weapons, or expand the conflict outside Ukraine, have eased, for now at least, and the Ukrainians have continued to conduct covert operations on Russian soil despite U.S. reservations.

    While the covert attacks appear to have had little effect so far on the course of the conflict in Ukraine, they have demonstrated Kyiv’s ability to penetrate deep inside Russia. U.S. officials say the goal of the operations may be to bolster Ukrainian morale and to pierce the aura of invulnerability that surrounds President Vladimir V. Putin.

    Ukrainian military leaders have sometimes been reluctant to share information with the United States on war plans, concerned that Russian spies or others will learn about them, making it harder for Ukraine to surprise the enemy. The Ukrainians have been especially tight-lipped about their covert operations.

    The drone attack on the Kremlin took place in the early morning hours of May 3, several days before Russia celebrated Victory Day, marking Russia’s victory over Nazi Germany in World War II.

    The first drone caused a small fire; the second drone exploded while two people were examining the roof for damage caused by the first, but they did not appear to be hurt. Russian officials said the drones were intercepted and destroyed before they could cause injuries.

    A New York Times analysis of the video of the attack showed the drones had a wingspan of about eight feet. American officials believe the two drones involved were launched from a short distance away, in or near Moscow. The drones, according to senior military officials, carried a limited explosive payload, suggesting the detonations over the Kremlin were more for shock value than an actual threat.

    Russian officials were quick to publicize the incident and said it was an attempt by Ukraine to assassinate Mr. Putin. Russia promised retaliatory measures and has been striking Ukraine with regular missile barrages, though it is unclear whether the escalation came in direct response to the drone attack.

    On the day of the drone attack, Mr. Zelensky publicly denied responsibility, asserting that Ukraine fights on its own territory, and keeps its weapons for defense of Ukraine rather than attacks in Moscow. “We didn’t attack Putin,” he said.

    A shadowy network of Russian partisan groups has claimed responsibility for a number of the attacks, including the one on the Kremlin. But U.S. intelligence agencies have found no evidence that such groups are responsible for the operations, and some U.S. intelligence officials are skeptical that there are any meaningful anti-Putin resistance forces operating inside Russia.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Fri May 26, 2023 8:18 am

    Dva odlicna niza o tome kako izgleda probijanje neprijateljske antioklopne odbrane i koliko je to tesko (ne i nemoguce) za izvesti




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    Post by Roger Sanchez Sat May 27, 2023 7:55 pm

    ''What do you want from me?''

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    Post by Filipenko Sat May 27, 2023 8:09 pm

    Upad nacista u Belgorodski kraj je pokazao da bi napad na Belgorod mogao biti realna opcija za banderiste. Neki masovni brzi prodor u stilu Isila bi bio sasvim moguc posto granica ocito nije iole pristojno branjena, nesto nalik na zauzimanje Mosula u Iraku, gde se pokazalo da uz faktor iznenadjenja i agresivne prodore i nije toliko bitno ukoliko neprijatelj bude brojniji, jer ne moze da se koncentrise i okupi, dok ti probijas i guras napred gde i koliko zelis. 

    Jedino sto ih jebe jeste sto za razliku od Tojota pikapa ova americka prevozna sredstva svuda mogu da otkazu i stanu. Da sam obergrupenfirer u ukrajinskom stabu, sigurno bih probao da barem uz kontraofanzivna dejstva na nekom glavnom pravcu upadnem u Rusiju i zaletim se na najblizi grad. Zapravo, to bi se u nekoj racunici moglo ispostaviti daleko bolja upotreba tehnike nego na nekim snazno utvrdjenim pravcima gde artiljerija roka sa svih strana.
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    Post by Guest Sat May 27, 2023 8:17 pm

    OK ali šta bi banderisti dobili time?
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    Post by Notxor Sat May 27, 2023 8:39 pm

    Bezbroj mimova, postova, hihihi, hahaha.


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    Post by Vilmos Tehenészfiú Sat May 27, 2023 8:42 pm

    Mislim da bi u tom slucaju licemerje tzv zapada dostiglo neslucene razmere.


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    “Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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    Post by Filipenko Sat May 27, 2023 8:54 pm

    Cousin Billy wrote:OK ali šta bi banderisti dobili time?


    Nanosenje udara neprijatelju, razvlacenje protivnicke vojske sa popustanjem i prebacivanjem iste sa drugih delova fronta, sok koji moze da posluzi za slanje slike u svet, teritorija za razmenu, udar na logisticki centar, brukanje teoretski nadmocnijeg protivnika, teritorija koja moze da se uz punu podrsku pristojnog sveta etnicki cisti od zlih orkova...

    No, mozda bi im bilo bolje da jurisaju na utvrdjene polozaje sa nenormalnom kolicinom artiljerije, kao sto propagandisti prizeljkuju...


    Vilmos Tehenészfiú wrote:Mislim da bi u tom slucaju licemerje tzv zapada dostiglo neslucene razmere.

    ...i usledilo bi ostro upozorenje Kremlja da bi napad na Moskvu doveo do nuklearnog uzvratnog udara, postavljajuci novu crvenu liniju.
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    Post by Guest Sat May 27, 2023 9:06 pm

    Filipenko wrote:
    Cousin Billy wrote:OK ali šta bi banderisti dobili time?


    Nanosenje udara neprijatelju, razvlacenje protivnicke vojske sa popustanjem i prebacivanjem iste sa drugih delova fronta, sok koji moze da posluzi za slanje slike u svet, teritorija za razmenu, udar na logisticki centar, brukanje teoretski nadmocnijeg protivnika, teritorija koja moze da se uz punu podrsku pristojnog sveta etnicki cisti od zlih orkova...

    No, mozda bi im bilo bolje da jurisaju na utvrdjene polozaje sa nenormalnom kolicinom artiljerije, kao sto propagandisti prizeljkuju...

    Nisam bio ciničan, stvarno me zanimaju svi uglovi eventualnog jačeg napada na Rusiju. Mislim i Strelkov je govorio o tome.

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