Rat u Ukrajini

Mór Thököly wrote:

MNE wrote:
šta misliš kako bi se odvijao rat NATO protiv nas da su nama Rusi dostavili svo ovo naoružanje koje ima Ukrajina kao i sve obavještajne podatke sa satelita itd?

Da, to je isto kukavicki, gadjanje civilne infrastrukture. Ali ne i stambenih blokova. Jedino sto smo mi to zasrali sveteći se masovno na albanski civilima.

fikret selimbašić wrote:


Prije par dana sam u jednoj internetskoj kafani vidio postove pisane u tonu vrlo sličnom tvom. Par postova kasnije autorov zaključak je bio da je 5. oktobar državni udar poptpuno uporediv sa Majdanom '14.

kondo wrote:

fikret selimbašić wrote:


Prije par dana sam u jednoj internetskoj kafani vidio postove pisane u tonu vrlo sličnom tvom. Par postova kasnije autorov zaključak je bio da je 5. oktobar državni udar poptpuno uporediv sa Majdanom '14.

pa ne znam što se meni žališ zbog toga, ja sigurno nisam bio u toj kafani.

molim citat gde sam napisao da je 5. oktobar 1) državni udar 2) potpuno uporediv sa majdanom.... mada kada malo bolje razmislim, teorija o državnom udaru nije toliko nakazna, jer i ako je bio državni udar onda to nije bio taj udar na koji ti misliš. ne tvrdim, ne isključujem.

Mór Thököly wrote:5. oktobar nikad nije trebalo da se dogodi postoje.uletela neka kinta iz inostranstva. Da smo to tad znali... 

MNE wrote:

Mór Thököly wrote:5. oktobar nikad nije trebalo da se dogodi postoje.uletela neka kinta iz inostranstva. Da smo to tad znali... 

"mala" je razlika što je Milošević izgubio izbore toliko da je to i Šešelj priznao, a Janukovič baš i ne

Mór Thököly wrote:

MNE wrote:
"mala" je razlika što je Milošević izgubio izbore toliko da je to i Šešelj priznao, a Janukovič baš i ne

Janukovic je izgubio izbore 2004. 

A to sto je izgubio Milosevic izbore, s tim bismo mogli da se slikamo da nisu izasli ljudi u stotinama hiljada po celoj Srbiji. 

A druga stvar je i - kako ih je izgubio, neko je nesto radio da ih on izgubi.

Zatoka bridge was attacked by Russian kamikaze drone boat (unmanned surface vehicle). The bridge is the main highway between Odessa and Budjak region, highlighted yellow in the third pic pic.twitter.com/EjXt6LH97j

— LogKa (@LogKa11) February 10, 2023

Ukraine prepared to use British missiles to strike Crimea
We are defending against the most anti-European force of the modern world, says Zelensky

George Grylls
Defence Correspondent
Friday February 10 2023, 9.20am GMT, The Times


Ukraine is prepared to use British long-range missiles to hit Crimea, the peninsula annexed by Russia in 2014, in a potential major escalation of western involvement in the war.

Rishi Sunak promised to send Ukraine more military aid following a visit by President Zelensky to Britain this week. Discussions are now taking place over whether this should include Harpoon anti-ship missiles or air-to-surface Storm Shadows.

Ukrainian defence sources confirmed to The Times that Kyiv would be prepared to use the missiles to strike Crimea following a warning from Zelensky that longer-range weapons from western allies would strike “deep in the occupied territories”.

Several explosions could be heard in Kyiv this morning as officials reported high-voltage facilities across Ukraine being hit. Ukrenergo, the power grid operator, said several facilities in eastern, southern and western Ukraine had been hit, causing disruption to power supply.

The air force said in a statement that seven Iranian-made “kamikaze” drones were launched from the Sea of Azov, and six Kalibr cruise missiles from the Black Sea. The air force said it had shot down five drones and five Kalibr missiles.

Zelensky met European parliamentarians in Brussels yesterday, where he renewed demands for fighter jets as Russia appeared to launch a long-anticipated offensive in eastern Ukraine. “We are defending against the most anti-European force of the modern world,” Zelensky said. “We are defending ourselves — we Ukrainians on the battlefield — along with you.”

Harpoon missiles cost about £1.2 million each and have a maximum range of 150 miles. Storm Shadow missiles cost about £2.2 million and can fire at targets as far as 350 miles away, although modified versions for export have a significantly shorter range.




Talks are now taking place to decide exactly how many British long-range missiles could be sent, despite previous concerns that enabling Ukraine to launch cross-border strikes on Russia could escalate the conflict.

Western allies have softened their stance in recent weeks on sending offensive weapons and appear to have accepted Kyiv’s arguments that Crimea is occupied territory that constitutes a legitimate target.

President Biden effectively doubled the range of the Ukrainian army last week by including ground-launched small-diameter bombs (GLSDB), capable of hitting targets 93 miles away, in the latest package of American support.

After the donation of GLSDBs, Ukraine promised not to hit targets in Russia but did not rule out Crimea.


On his visit to London, Zelensky thanked a “coalition” of western countries for their “latest” gift of longer-range missiles. “It will allow us to make the evil completely retreat from our country by destroying its airbases deep in the occupied territories,” he said.

Sidharth Kaushal of the Royal United Services Institute, a defence think tank, said the West needed to give Ukraine longer-range weapons to continue hitting Russian ammunition depots. In recent months, President Putin’s generals have begun withdrawing their command centres and weapons stores further from the front line after they were targeted by Ukrainians using US rocket launchers. Kaushal said: “What we want is to give them something that hits targets at that 100km-plus range but is not so long-range that it enables strikes into Russia.”

He added that Harpoon anti-ship missiles, which have already been given to Ukraine by Denmark, could be adapted to be fired from trucks, although they would be less accurate when attacking ground targets. He said it would also be possible to fire Storm Shadow missiles from the ground, but it was more likely that these would be fitted to Ukrainian aircraft.

Kaushal cautioned, however, that sending Storm Shadow missiles to Ukraine would mean Britain going further than the US. Biden has repeatedly refused to provide Army Tactical Missile System projectiles, which have a shorter range.


“Diplomatically, that would put the Biden administration in a very difficult position,” he said. “I imagine that is something policymakers in Whitehall are not necessarily keen to do. It would also enable proper, cross-border strikes against Russia.”

Ukraine prepared to use British missiles to strike Crimea | News | The Times

Whoa… “‘I informed (Sandu) that we intercepted the plan of the destruction of Moldova by the Russian intelligence,” Zelensky said. The documents showed ‘who, when and how’ the plan would ‘break the democracy of Moldova and establish control over Moldova.” https://t.co/3p8KBIlHWr

— Bianna Golodryga (@biannagolodryga) February 10, 2023

Some semi-suprising Moldova news: PM Gavrilița has resigned. Former National Security Advisor Dorin Recean is the new PM.

Two quick notes: Thread https://t.co/WOcloI9ho8

— Alex St. Leger (@AlexStLeger) February 10, 2023

Dorin Recean is the new PM, which is interesting given he was previously National Security Advisor. As the war rages and effects continue to spill into Moldova, Chisinau is beginning to think about MD's security posture in the context of MD's neutrality status.

— Alex St. Leger (@AlexStLeger) February 10, 2023

As she departed, Gavrilița stated that “Moldova is entering a new phase, one in which security is our priority."

Whether or not that's true remains to be seen -- but it will be a focus of the new PAS government as the war in Ukraine approaches one year. https://t.co/U3TO7ClrDY

— Alex St. Leger (@AlexStLeger) February 10, 2023

MNE wrote:pojavile su se glasine da će se 21. februara Putin obratiti sa nekakvim ultimatumom Ukrajini/zapadu od 72h

rumbeando wrote:Zelenski je juče u Briselu izjavio da Rusija ima plan da sruši demokratski poredak u Moldaviji i uspostavi kontrolu nad tom zemljom, dok je Lavrov nešto ranije optužio Zapad da pokušava da od Moldavije napravi novu Ukrajinu. Moldavski DB je pak u decembru upozorio na to da će Rusi možda pokušati da naprave kopneni koridor do Pridnjestrovlja.

If Germany is attacked militarily, one in ten Germans would be ready to take up arms. Another eleven percent want to help in other ways. In contrast, 24 percent would like to leave the country in case of war.

Suppose a military attack on Germany were to emerge, comparable to the Russian attack on Ukraine that began in February 2022. What do you think you personally would be most likely to do in such a situation?

Falls #Deutschland militärisch angegriffen wird, wäre jeder zehnte #Deutsche zum Dienst an der Waffe bereit. Weitere elf Prozent wollen anderweitig helfen. Demgegenüber möchten 24 Prozent im #Kriegsfall das Land verlassen. https://t.co/orZPCeDAAw

— Junge Freiheit (@Junge_Freiheit) February 10, 2023