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    Post by PopeЧе Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:52 am

    Pesma izgradnje  nova zvezda - Page 8 3405963423
    Nista od ovoga biti nece, na veliku zalost svih onih koje je akcija u pocetku prodrmala i probudila sveopstu nadu.
    Tanki glasici Horkestra, levicarenje preko svake mere i ukusa, sve to ce rezultirati pretvaranjem u jednu obicnu crnu rupu.
    Pri tome mislim da Borba i Sloboda (Cacak) za bioskop koji ce postati zloupotrebljena radionica, Centar za podrsku Sirizi ili neka slicna pseudoalternativna tvorevina, takodje spada u domen delatnosti koje ce gravitacija gore pomenute crne rupe progutati.
    Steta.
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    Post by boomer crook Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:26 pm

    ne znam o cemu tacno pricas. sta je tacno levicarenje preko svake mere u slucaju zvezde?


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    And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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    Post by PopeЧе Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:52 am

    Sav si ti naivan.  nova zvezda - Page 8 899159439
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    Post by boomer crook Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:55 am

    naravno, tito i ja smo naivni a draza je bio lukav pa vidi kako je prosao.


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    And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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    Post by PopeЧе Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:11 am

    Cekaj, pevali ste Pesmu izgradnje zajedno za vreme one scene sa Karaymejdana dok je pucao pogled ka popristu epske borbe izmedju neimara-udarnika i pescare?

    Tada su nastale cuvene reci upucene pratnji koja je zedno iscekivala pohvalu:
    Ima tu neke narocite radosti...


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    Post by boomer crook Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:13 am

    ja mislio ti nesto konkretno kad ono dotakla te priredba.


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    And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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    Post by PopeЧе Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:24 am

    PopeЧе wrote:Pesma izgradnje  nova zvezda - Page 8 3405963423
    Nista od ovoga biti nece, na veliku zalost svih onih koje je akcija u pocetku prodrmala i probudila sveopstu nadu.
    Tanki glasici Horkestra, levicarenje preko svake mere i ukusa, sve to ce rezultirati pretvaranjem u jednu obicnu crnu rupu.
    Pri tome mislim da Borba i Sloboda (Cacak) za bioskop koji ce postati zloupotrebljena radionica, Centar za podrsku Sirizi ili neka slicna pseudoalternativna tvorevina, takodje spada u domen delatnosti koje ce gravitacija gore pomenute crne rupe progutati.
    Steta.

    Konkretno, nego sta.
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    Post by boomer crook Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:51 am

    super sto do sada bioskop nije bio crna rupa. 

    btw, po nekim astrofizicarima crne rupe su prolazi u neki novi svet.


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    And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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    Post by PopeЧе Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:01 am

    ostap bender wrote:naravno, tito i ja smo naivni a draza je bio lukav pa vidi kako je prosao.

    ostap bender wrote:super sto do sada bioskop nije bio crna rupa. 

    btw, po nekim astrofizicarima crne rupe su prolazi u neki novi svet.

    Evo ga, vragolan, uvodi ČvP i na Burundi.
    Ne znam ko bi ti bio sagovornik ali ovde taj film neces da gledas. nova zvezda - Page 8 1233199462

    Nisam ja kriv sto ce jedna dobra ideja biti upropascena bespotrebnim levicarenjem i skretanjem sa pocetnih postavki.
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    Post by boomer crook Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:02 am

    pa sta je ta pocetna ideja nova zvezda - Page 8 1399639816


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    And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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    Post by Daï Djakman Faré Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:05 am

    da se gledaju filmovi u bioskop !


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    i would like to talk here about The Last of Us on HBO... and yeah, yeah i know.. the world is burning but lets just all sit and talk about television. again - what else are we doing with ourselves ? we are not creating any militias. but my god we still have the content. appraising content is the american modus vivendi.. that's why we are here for. to absorb the content and then render some sort of a judgment on content. because there is a buried hope that if enough people have the right opinion about the content - the content will get better which will then flow to our structures and make the world a better place
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    Post by PopeЧе Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:11 am

    Ne bre, revolucionarno pozoriste, poligon za dokone salonske komuniste.
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    Post by boomer crook Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:29 am

    pitam te ozbiljno mornaru.


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    And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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    Post by PopeЧе Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:37 am

    Kako to ozbiljno?
    Ti kao ne znas u sta se to pretvara?
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    Post by Erős Pista Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:45 am

    Popajče, pobobu, odgovori na prosto pitanje.


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    "Oni kroz mene gledaju u vas! Oni kroz njega gledaju u vas! Oni kroz vas gledaju u mene... i u sve nas."

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    Post by PopeЧе Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:36 am

    Necu.
    Citajte topik od pocetka i shvaticete da tu ima neke narocite radosti.
    Od pljackaske privatizacije do zgodne prilike za parazite svih fela zaklonjenih iza neukusnog levicarskog diskursa.

    Steta dobrog pocetka i onih koji su iskreno usli u sve to ali sta je tu je, ovo je zemlja krajnosti i licemerja.
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    Post by boomer crook Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:37 am

    mislis pljackaska privatizacija je bila dobar pocetak nova zvezda - Page 8 1399639816

    drugo pitam te zato sto formalno pravno privatizacija nije ni bila pljackaska manje ili vise od svih drugih ostvarenih u srbiji od milosevicevih prvih do danas. znaci ceo dogadjaj oko zvezde je jasno dolazio sa levog politickog krila i zahtevao je da se utvrdi sta je to javno dobro i kakvi su modaliteti raspolaganja njime, to jest da to, javno dobro, bude u nekom obimu povuceno sa trzista.

    pri tome okupatori, kada je obim tog povlacenja u pitanju, nisu jedinstveni. kako god nikoga tu ne bih nazvao parazitom.

    e sada sto se kica tice to je vec stvar ukusa samo, na fonu neprezaljenog cvp, morao bih da kazem da bi bilo dobro da je ista modernisticka svedenost zahtevana od svih onih protesta opozicije na kojima je prastalo od lubanja i kokardi.


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    And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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    Post by PopeЧе Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:14 am

    Ako uslovima privatizacije (pod izgovorom da nisi u poziciji da postavljas uslove) omogucis da neko kupi bioskope u strogom centru grada i pretvori ih po volji u zatvorene mini-pijace a pri tom plati bioskopsku firmu koliko je plati pa onda proda pola tih prostora po visestruko visoj ceni i u medjuvremenu zaglavi zatvor, zaista nema mesta razgovoru o formalno-pravnom aspektu privatizacije.

    Sa ovim se potpuno slazem:
    da se utvrdi sta je to javno dobro i kakvi su modaliteti raspolaganja njime, to jest da to, javno dobro, bude u nekom obimu povuceno sa trzista.

    i to jesu bili principi na samom pocetku ali ne od levog politickog krila (nemoj da me zasmejavas) mada zabrinjava potreba da ovo poredis sa protestima opozicije, toliko da me dovodis u situaciju da poverujem kako ni tebe preterano ne interesuje esnaf, kultura i javno dobro , vec upravo atmosfera Spanija 1936 ili pak FNRJ 1945. koja te narocito i neobicno raduje.

    S' mene pa na ostap.
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    Post by boomer crook Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:05 am

    mislim da nisi upoznat s tim slucajem. djivanovic je zaglavio zatvor zbog utaje poreza a sve ostalo je uradio po slovu zakona, ukljucujuci i navodno, pro forme, minimalno odrzavanje osnovne delatnosti u za to odredjenom zakonskom roku. pri tome ovde ne ulazim cak ni u dokapitalizaciju koju agencija nije dozvolila malim akcionarima a dozvolila je djivanovicu koji je po tom osnovu stekao kontrolni paket nad beograd filmom.

    a pri tome nemam sta ja da te zasmejavam - navedeni principi su, izmedju ostalog, principi istorijske levice. pri tome hajde da to malo prosirimo: geslo nove zvezde je da bioskop pripada svim clanovima zajednice.

    esnafsku pricu bas poteze, na primer, mali kosta u odgovoru srecku horvatu sa anti-siriza, pro-kke, pozicija. mene esnaf ne interesuje vec kako jedan javni resurs, privatizovana drustvena svojina, opljackana protivno cak i milosevicevim revizionistickim zakonima i ustavom, moze da se stavi u novu svrhu. takodje me jos vise nteresuje kako to bioskop moze da bude mesto jednog radikalno novog gledanja filmova i samim tim novog misljenja filmske umetnosti. s te strane me vise nerviraju sitni esnafski rituali poput poklanjanja publici nego crvene zastave.

    i kad smo vec kod sirize: otkad to pojava jedne, zapravo, vrlo tradicionalne socdem stranke izaziva takav strah u evropi?


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    And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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    Post by PopeЧе Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:49 am

    ostap bender wrote:pro forme

    Ovo je sustina.
    Ne samo u ovom slucaju.
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    Post by boomer crook Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:33 am

    pa u ovom slucaju je dovoljno odnosno forma je sustina. 

    i eto zato nam treba i bioskop i novi nacini i gledanja i snimanja filmova.


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    And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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    Post by PopeЧе Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:24 pm

    Koji si ti ostap bender jbt   nova zvezda - Page 8 286371741
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    Post by boomer crook Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:45 pm

    on je covek trazio sovjetskog milionera pa tako i ja.

    no, ovde je zaista, kao i cesto u pravu, forma sustina. ne postoji pravni lek za ono sto je djivanovic napravio. to je jednostavno tranzicioni kapitalizam ili bolje receno kapitalizam bez maske.


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    And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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    Post by PopeЧе Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:45 am

    Ako ne postoji pravni lek, cemu onda okupacija?
    Revolucionarna gibanja u srcima aktera?

    Postoji revizija privatizacije, ostape, od postavljanja uslova do njihovog ispunjavanja, nije bas sve tako kruto formalno.
    Razumem ja tebe, ostape, u svetlu montiranih staljinistickih procesa kojima formalno-pravno nema zamerke, ti si sasvim u pravu.
    A kad vec ne moze da se osvoji крепость Дадов, dobra je i ruinirana Звезда.
    Formalno-pravno.
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    Post by boomer crook Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:35 am

    kapiram da si zeleo reci da sudije ne treba da se drze zakona kao pijani plota.


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