Filipenko wrote:Del Cap wrote:
Budimpeštanski memorandum? Nije posve jasno je li pravno obavezujući ili ne tj da li važi kao međunarodni ugovor. Malo ko osim nekih Ukrajinaca ga smatra formalnim ugovorom sa formalnim obavezama (Amerikanci ga smatraju političkim dogovorom).
Obaska sto bi USA i Rusija zajedno napali Ukrajinu da nije predala svoje nuklearke.
Naravno, problem je i sto Srbi vole da misle da su garancije vecne, a papiri obavezujuci. To kod Normana ne prolazi. Papir vredi dok imas cime da ga branis. Nakon toga sledi nova realnost i pojedinacni slucaj.
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Another point for people contemplating conflict with a rival nuclear power to ponder: democracies are particularly bad at regulating passions once they are unleashed.
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This should get an award for worst take of the day.
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Del Cap wrote:Another point for people contemplating conflict with a rival nuclear power to ponder: democracies are particularly bad at regulating passions once they are unleashed.
— Damir Marusic (@dmarusic) March 1, 2022
to je istina
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#PutinWarCriminal
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Ponele ih emocijeDel Cap wrote:Another point for people contemplating conflict with a rival nuclear power to ponder: democracies are particularly bad at regulating passions once they are unleashed.
— Damir Marusic (@dmarusic) March 1, 2022
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Što se ostaloga tiče, smatram da Zapad treba razoriti
Jedini proleter Burundija
Pristalica krvne osvete
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Mór Thököly wrote:Del Cap wrote:
Budimpeštanski memorandum? Nije posve jasno je li pravno obavezujući ili ne tj da li važi kao međunarodni ugovor. Malo ko osim nekih Ukrajinaca ga smatra formalnim ugovorom sa formalnim obavezama (Amerikanci ga smatraju političkim dogovorom).
Rusi se nikad nisu branili da nije obavezujuci, uvek su izmisljali nesto deseto
Naravno, jer im ne treba to da BM ne važi uopšte, nego da ne važi ponešto onda kad im zatreba.
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Del Cap wrote:Mór Thököly wrote:
Rusi se nikad nisu branili da nije obavezujuci, uvek su izmisljali nesto deseto
Naravno, jer im ne treba to da BM ne važi uopšte, nego da ne važi ponešto onda kad im zatreba.
Ne znam, nisam nasao to ko argumentuje da nije obavezujuce. Mislim, zavedeno je (registered) pri UN, trebalo bi da predstavlja sastavni deo medjunarodnog prava.
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disident wrote:
Ponele ih emocije
izliv sperme u mozak
zato je tu genije:
Savićević: Ne branim Putina, ali fudbaleri nemaju ništa sa njegovom odlukom
"Kao fudbaler sam izgubio priliku za igranje na evropskim prvenstvima 1992. i 1996. te Svjetskom prvenstvu 1994. i to bez bilo kakvog razloga osim političkog koji nema veze sa sportom", rekao je Savićević za italijansku "La Republiku"
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How Iran has been under hellish sanctions for 40 years without descending into chaos
In a number of industries, the Islamic Republic would give a head start to many others
Как Иран стоит под адскими санкциями уже 40 лет и не скатывается к хаосу
— @kpru (@kpru) March 1, 2022
В ряде отраслей Исламская Республика даст фору многим другим https://t.co/mMU8jEXaAF pic.twitter.com/LlXYLSHLgn
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Mór Thököly wrote:Del Cap wrote:
Naravno, jer im ne treba to da BM ne važi uopšte, nego da ne važi ponešto onda kad im zatreba.
Ne znam, nisam nasao to ko argumentuje da nije obavezujuce. Mislim, zavedeno je (registered) pri UN, trebalo bi da predstavlja sastavni deo medjunarodnog prava.
Negde uz rezoluciju 1244. Obavezivala je u momentu potpisivanja, ali je posle nastupila nova realnost.
Takodje, ajde da malo izigravam djavoljeg advokata, taj memorandum je garantovao Ukrajini intersuv (integritet i teritorijalni suverenitet, prim. Fil.) u sprezi sa nuklearnim bombama. Nigde nije receno da posle toga moze opusteno u Nato ili da zabranjuje ruski jezik. Ono, ni ja ukoliko ne ubijem necu ici u zatvor, ali mi se ne garantuje da svejedno necu dospeti u zatvor ako opljackam banku.
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mislim, naravno da znam da medjunarodno pravo nije isto sto i interno u okviru drzava.
nato je glupost, ukrajina ne bi nikad postala punopravni clan, a u svakom slucaju nije postojala nikakva hitnost po tom pitanju
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Mór Thököly wrote:Del Cap wrote:
Naravno, jer im ne treba to da BM ne važi uopšte, nego da ne važi ponešto onda kad im zatreba.
Ne znam, nisam nasao to ko argumentuje da nije obavezujuce. Mislim, zavedeno je (registered) pri UN, trebalo bi da predstavlja sastavni deo medjunarodnog prava.
Mislim da je to sve složenije od pukog proceduralnog pitanja (npr što nije ratifikovan u skupštinama kao međ. ugovor), tu je pitanje da li su preuzete obaveze "tvrde" ili ne i mora li se postupati protiv kršioca itd.
Kad su se Belorusi žalili 2013. da američke sankcije
prema njima predstavljaju kršenje BM, Ameri su im zvanično odgovorili (deo argumentacije) da BM nije pravno obavezujući akt:
Belarus: Budapest Memorandum
Media Statement by the U.S. Embassy in Minsk
April 12, 2013
Repeated assertions by the government of Belarus that U.S. sanctions violate the 1994 Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances are unfounded. Although the Memorandum is not legally binding, we take these political commitments seriously and do not believe any U.S. sanctions, whether imposed because of human rights or non-proliferation concerns, are inconsistent with our commitments to Belarus under the Memorandum or undermine them. Rather, sanctions are aimed at securing the human rights of Belarusians and combating the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and other illicit activities, not at gaining any advantage for the United States.
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Cousin Billy wrote:BBC pokrenuo servis na kratkim talasima namenjen Ukrajini, 5875khz. radio prijemnik dostupan na ovom linku - već je kačen ovde.
http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/
mogu misliti....
ovo sve što rade zapadni mediji, političari da ne spominjem, za sada je potreban i dovoljan razlog da čovek NE bude na njihovoj strani. šteta što je druga strana preterano zabrazdila mada možda se prizovu pameti i ovo završe za 3 dana, uprkos penkovom bulažnjenju o uspešnoj akciji.
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Del Cap wrote:Mór Thököly wrote:
Ne znam, nisam nasao to ko argumentuje da nije obavezujuce. Mislim, zavedeno je (registered) pri UN, trebalo bi da predstavlja sastavni deo medjunarodnog prava.
Mislim da je to sve složenije od pukog proceduralnog pitanja (npr što nije ratifikovan u skupštinama kao međ. ugovor), tu je pitanje da li su preuzete obaveze "tvrde" ili ne i mora li se postupati protiv kršioca itd.
Kad su se Belorusi žalili 2013. da američke sankcije
prema njima predstavljaju kršenje BM, Ameri su im zvanično odgovorili (deo argumentacije) da BM nije pravno obavezujući akt:
Belarus: Budapest Memorandum
Media Statement by the U.S. Embassy in Minsk
April 12, 2013
Repeated assertions by the government of Belarus that U.S. sanctions violate the 1994 Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances are unfounded. Although the Memorandum is not legally binding, we take these political commitments seriously and do not believe any U.S. sanctions, whether imposed because of human rights or non-proliferation concerns, are inconsistent with our commitments to Belarus under the Memorandum or undermine them. Rather, sanctions are aimed at securing the human rights of Belarusians and combating the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and other illicit activities, not at gaining any advantage for the United States.
to sad izgleda da ima misljenja u kom delu i za sta (a bogami i za koga) je legally binding. amerikanci ne priznaju, to stoji.
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Four people have been killed when homes in the Ukrainian city of Zhytomyr were hit on Tuesday night by a Russian cruise missile apparently aimed at a nearby air base, Anton Gerashchenko, adviser to the Ukrainian interior minister, said on his Telegram channel.
He said the residential buildings near the base of the 95th Airborne Brigade in Zhytomyr, 120km (75 miles) west of the capital Kyiv, had been set on fire, claiming the strike had originated from Belarus.
“So far, four people have died. Including a child,” he said.
to je ovo
#Ukraine Residential buildings are on fire in Zhytomyr after shelling.
— Hanna Liubakova (@HannaLiubakova) March 1, 2022
My Ukrainian friends keep saying: "Thanks to Putin, our people are saved from their own homes" as a reference to the Russian army "saving" civilians from terrorists and nazis, as propaganda says pic.twitter.com/STONyegVhU
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Završiće oni ovo za dan-dva.
Ukraine’s Air Force, along with units of the army and territorial defense, destroyed a large Russian military convoy near the city of Bashtanka in Ukraine’s southern Mykolaiv region.
— The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent) March 1, 2022
Military bloggers reported that the convoy contained up to 800 vehicles.
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Sad, ovo je mozda istina, mozda ne, ali ne zvuci suvise fejk.
Update from a Kharkiv resident Mar 1, 2022https://t.co/OngHOSTGX1 #Ukraine #UkraineUnderAttack #UkraineWar pic.twitter.com/I8q0g80jbg
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Latest update on #Ukraine: Conflict should end before Ukraine's application to join the European Union (#EU) is discussed, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen says https://t.co/qhD70anC5z https://t.co/wDq4M1OrnL
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LMFAO Kamala appears to mouth “Ukrainian” when Joe Biden said Iranian.
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Prica na samom pocetku, mozda je minut-dva pricao Taker pa onda krece Mekgregor. Zanimljivo je da kaze da je Stoltenberg zaustavio isporuke Migova iz Nato drzava istocne Evrope Ukrajini. Kaze da je otputovao u Poljsku i zaustavio Poljake i ostale od lude zamisli jer ne zeli rat Nato i Rusije.