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    Sotir

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    Post by Sotir Fri 25 Feb 2022 - 7:54

    Notxor wrote:
    Janko Suvar wrote:⚡A Su-27 fighter aircraft was shot down over #Kyiv.

    ukrajinski, ali su zato ukrajinski avioni prvi put bombardovali aerodrom na teritoriji Rusije, Milerovo, Rostovska oblast.
    Нису авиони, балистичка ракета Точка.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Fri 25 Feb 2022 - 8:02

    Del Cap wrote:https://www.portalnovosti.com/damir-grubisa-sankcije-rusiji-najvise-ce-pogoditi-europu

    Pa nista, nek predlozi da Hrvatska izadje iz Natoa. 

    Takodje ne vidim da mu je osvajanje Krima ikakav problem.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Fri 25 Feb 2022 - 8:06

    A najbolje bi bilo da su ga pitali za ponesto iz 1991 i da uporedi on to malo.

    . Posto je u Rusiji valjda komunizam sta li

    [size=39]pomahnitalog liberalnog kapitalizma doveo je do iracionalne reakcije ruskog nacionalizma i neoimperijalizma, koji personificiraju Putin i njegova oligarhija. Ne izgleda vjerojatno da će doći do ruske invazije na čitavu Ukrajinu[/size]

    Lol
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    Post by boomer crook Fri 25 Feb 2022 - 8:29

    jel se to meni cini ili je malo prsnuo blickrig? ja sam ocekivao ono ruse kod varsave sinoc.


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    Post by Guest Fri 25 Feb 2022 - 8:30

    Jeste malo zapelo.
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    Post by Janko Suvar Fri 25 Feb 2022 - 8:38

    BREAKING: Ukraine's deputy defence minister says Russian troops wearing Ukrainian uniforms were able to seize Ukrainian military vehicles, which are now heading towards Kyiv.
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    Post by Del Cap Fri 25 Feb 2022 - 8:40

    Kod Kijeva i Harkova zapelo, na jugu ide ko po ravnoj stepi

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    Post by Del Cap Fri 25 Feb 2022 - 8:41

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    Post by Notxor Fri 25 Feb 2022 - 8:41

    Ukrajinci su u poziciji da biraju gde će da se tuku.
    Problem je ako, kao sinoć u Sumiju, odluče da se bore u gradovima jer je to katastrofa za civile.
    Na mestima gde se Ukrajinci bore tu Rusi nisu prošli.

    edit: Što se tiče "propalog" blickriga, Rusi su u predgrađu Kijeva. Oko aerodroma se i dalje bore.


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    Post by Guest Fri 25 Feb 2022 - 8:51

    Cela zajednička istorija Rusije i Ukrajine mi sugeriše dve stvari - da će se Rusija do poslednjeg trenutka suzdržavati od operacija koje proizvode masovne žrtve u kratkom periodu, i da je moral ruske vojske u ovom ratu na vrlo niskom nivou.
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    Post by Janko Suvar Fri 25 Feb 2022 - 9:03

    ⚡Ukraine is ready to negotiate a neutral status with Russia, but it must also receive security guarantees, adviser to the President of Ukraine Mikhail Podolyak said in a statement.

    “This war must be stopped. These hostilities must be stopped."


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    Post by boomer crook Fri 25 Feb 2022 - 9:04

    Janko Suvar wrote:⚡Ukraine is ready to negotiate a neutral status with Russia, but it must also receive security guarantees, adviser to the President of Ukraine Mikhail Podolyak said in a statement.

    “This war must be stopped. These hostilities must be stopped."

    to bi bio idealan kraj ovog rata ali bi to bio i poraz za putina tako da no go.


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    Post by Del Cap Fri 25 Feb 2022 - 9:04

    Michael Weiss 🌻@michaeldweiss🧵 
    https://twitter.com/michaeldweiss/status/1497095863864205312


    A Ukrainian intelligence source has passed along the following, which has already begun to trickle out in some form in the Ukrainian media.
    *All the usual caveats apply.* I cannot verify. But it is apparently based on human intelligence and concerns Russia’s play for Kyiv.

    As many as 2,000 Russian Special Forces are planning to seize either Sikorsky or Boryspil airport in the capital to prepare for the arrival of 10,000 paratroopers, IL-76 aircraft, light armored vehicles and airborne troops.
    The landing operation will be run by A-50 aircraft in the airspace of Belarus and Russia.

    Simultaneously, sabotage groups already in Ukraine will seek to take out power grids and substations to disconnect much of Kyiv from electricity and communications, causing panic among the population.

    This will coincide with a massive cyberattack on the authorities and other vital sites in Ukraine. Shortly preceding that, there will be an intensification at the fronts, with possible provocations along the entire border with Ukraine.

    The goal is to force the military-political leadership to withdraw the bulk of combat-ready troops to the line of defense, leaving only a small number of troops in Kyiv.

    The task of the landing party is to block Kyiv, communications, military control channels, capture/blow up arsenals, and sow panic. The Russians want to create conditions for "uncontrolled columns of refugees" from Kyiv, which will block highways and roads.

    That will hinder the movement of troops, including law enforcement agencies on the roads of Kyiv.

    The next phase will be to capture and control the main authorities including the General Staff, the Cabinet, the Verkhovna Rada, and retain them until the arrival of Russia's main forces.

    The date of the operation is unknown, but is expected in the coming days, depending on the weather and the development of the international situation.

    The desired result is to seize the leadership of the Ukrainian state and force a peace agreement to be signed on Russian terms under conditions of blackmail.

    Even if much of the current leadership is evacuated, some pro-Russian politicians will be able to assume responsibility and sign documents, citing the "escape" of the leadership from Kyiv.
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    Post by Sotir Fri 25 Feb 2022 - 9:08

    Не знам шта ви очекујете од рата, да за дан пређу 500км?
    Ја сам шокиран колико су прешли јуче. Поготово на југу, али и око Кијева. 

    Што мислиш да је Русима лош морал?
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    Post by Guest Fri 25 Feb 2022 - 9:09

    Krenule polako ulične borbe u Kijevu.
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    Post by Notxor Fri 25 Feb 2022 - 9:11

    Ma da. Evo, kratki rafali u Obolonu. To više nije ni predgrađe Kijeva, to su paviljoni kao NBG.


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    Post by boomer crook Fri 25 Feb 2022 - 9:12

    We all gathered at the editorial office early today. We are in grief.
    Our country, on the orders of President Putin, started a war with Ukraine. And there is no one to stop the war. Therefore, along with grief, we and I experience shame.
    In the hands of the commander-in-chief, like a keychain from an expensive car, he turns the “nuclear button”. The next step is a nuclear salvo? I can’t interpret Vladimir Putin’s words about the weapon of retaliation in any other way.
    But we will publish this issue of Novaya Gazeta in two languages ​​- Ukrainian and Russian. Because we do not recognize Ukraine as an enemy, and the Ukrainian language as the language of the enemy. And we will never admit it.
    And the last. Only the anti-war movement of the Russians can save life on this planet.
    Dmitry Muratov,
    editor-in-chief of Novaya Gazeta,
    Nobel Peace Prize winner

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    Post by Notxor Fri 25 Feb 2022 - 9:15

    U Obolonu zalutalo jedno rusko oklopno vozilo na bulevaru. Nema ko da mu se suprotstavi.


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    Post by boomer crook Fri 25 Feb 2022 - 9:15

    Sotir wrote:Не знам шта ви очекујете од рата, да за дан пређу 500км?
    Ја сам шокиран колико су прешли јуче. Поготово на југу, али и око Кијева. 

    Што мислиш да је Русима лош морал?

    ne znam nisam eksperat za vojna pitanja ali cini mi se da rusi vole ono kao zauzmu aerodrom a onda slete tenkovi scenarije posto zapravo nemaju americki visokotehnoloski kapacitet. ovo do sada, ukrajinski otpor i rani neuspesi oko kijeva, znaci da sta god usledi nece moci da bude samo sadizam.


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    Post by Guest Fri 25 Feb 2022 - 9:16

    Sotir wrote:Не знам шта ви очекујете од рата, да за дан пређу 500км?
    Ја сам шокиран колико су прешли јуче. Поготово на југу, али и око Кијева. 

    Што мислиш да је Русима лош морал?

    Zato što se bore protiv Ukrajinaca. Cela Rusija ima loš moral sada. Rusiji, kao zemlji imperijalnih tendencija, šovinizam je stran, nikad ga nisu učili. Nije normalno stanje stvari da Rusija napada Ukrajinu, Rusi nisu kulturno i propagandno pripremljeni za to. Ulazak u Donbas, Krim, to je sve OK, uzimamo naše. Ne i 1939-style napad na celu zemlju. Tek će se videti razmere ovog šoka. Živi bili pa videli.
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    Post by Guest Fri 25 Feb 2022 - 9:17

    ja se ne razumem u ratove i nemam pojma šta da očekujem

    sad sam video cenu gasa, 100% za dva dana
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Fri 25 Feb 2022 - 9:21

    Cousin Billy wrote:Cela zajednička istorija Rusije i Ukrajine mi sugeriše dve stvari - da će se Rusija do poslednjeg trenutka suzdržavati od operacija koje proizvode masovne žrtve u kratkom periodu, i da je moral ruske vojske u ovom ratu na vrlo niskom nivou.

    Mmmm, slazem se generalno
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    Post by Mr.Pink Fri 25 Feb 2022 - 9:25

    meni ljudi u srbiji kazu da su tuzni

    slovenska braca i tako to

    ne vidim kako se ovo moze nazvati fejlom

    koliko je trajala desert storm?


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    Post by Del Cap Fri 25 Feb 2022 - 9:25

    Ja ne mislim da im je loš moral tamo gde je trenutno bitno (na frontu). Eventualni neuspesi to mogu promeniti, a na "unutrašnjem frontu" to je pitanje za srednji i duži rok, do daljeg će volođa to rešavati hapšenjima, izdrkavanjima i ostrakovanjem, kao po običaju.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Fri 25 Feb 2022 - 9:28

    Ajde mobilizacija, ali mislim da su Ukrajinci napravili fatalnu gresku koja moze da ih kosta rata. Kada su dobili info da je ruska invazija verovatna, a posto borbina liniji razdvajanja prakticno nine bilo, trebalo je elitne trupe koje su tamo da polako prebacuju drugde (ja bih recimo pre 30 strana rekao na jug), donbas dopunjuju necim sto nije toliko dobro u smislu iskustva i vatrene moci. Ovako moze lako da im se desi "staljingrad" u nekoj poltavi ili Dnjipru. Ako budu uopste mogli da se povuku dotle.

    Ovo na uglu izgleda jako lose, rusi se samo "ušetavaju"u gradove, to ne sme tako da izgleda.

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